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Diet - Eggs or no eggs?

Posted by zooblio6 @zooblio6, Jan 28, 2025

I am just beginning ADT ( Gleason 7 4+3 T2a ) and see the oncologist tomorrow here in France to set out the RT plan. No dietary advice so far from eg urologist and guessing that tomorrow will only be a practical regime for the duration of the RT. Respected sources constantly recommend a plant-based diet ( already on this ) with little or no dairy products. However, the court seems to be out in the matter of eggs. This concerns me, since B12 is clearly important on all fronts and calcium is clearly an issue with risk of bone thinning whilst on ADT.

Has anyone here received advice for or against please?

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northoftheborder | @northoftheborder | Dec 4, 2025
In reply to @jeffmarc "@surftohealth88 You bring up some interesting points, really centered around choline. I know that egg yolks..." + (show)
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@surftohealth88
You bring up some interesting points, really centered around choline. I know that egg yolks have a lot of it and the whites don’t. I still eat 2 eggs twice a week, poached over an English muffin.

Apparently, chicken does have a fair amount of choline in it. An egg yolk has about 150mg and a lean 6oz chicken breast around 200 mg. A 3 1/2 ounce chicken thigh has 75 mg, I only eat chicken thighs. Probably closer to 5 ounces.

And then you run into absolutely weird facts like this

The danger of choline for someone with prostate cancer is still being researched, but some studies suggest high intake may increase the risk of aggressive or lethal prostate cancer, possibly by promoting tumor growth and inflammation. However, other studies have found no association between high choline intake and lethal prostate cancer, and some even suggest that high intake may not be associated with total prostate cancer risk. Therefore, it is recommended to consult with a doctor to determine the right amount of choline for their specific situation.

I’ve now been undetectable for 24 months. I probably eat fish three times a week and chicken four times a week. I also eat a small piece of cake or a couple of cookies every single night along with a bowl of strawberries. My wife likes to bake cookies and cakes,, I have six different things she keeps in the freezer. I eat one a night. I’m not nearly as good at this as you are, But after all these years, I have lost my strong fear of dying soon. I do eat a couple of ounces of Brie every day too, but mostly have Soy milk, 1/2 gallon a week with high protein cereal,. I do make cappuccino every morning with nonfat milk, The fat is what supposed to be the problem. When you steam milk you throw away about 3/4 of it So I probably only drink about 2 ounces a day. I’ve been a bad boy!!!???

I guess if my PSA started rising, I would probably cut back on some things. But everything in reasonable amounts seems to work.

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@jeffmarc Exactly. The missing puzzle piece is whether consuming normal/moderate amounts of choline has any effect at all on the choline levels in your bloodstream, which are indirect and regulated by your liver. The research is really sketchy on that: in very controlled conditions, eating a lot of eggs (for example) can result in a very small rise on choline concentrates in blood plasma, but in the free-living population, the link is either absent or very weak statistically (as far as I've read so far).

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surftohealth88 | @surftohealth88 | Dec 4, 2025
In reply to @jeffmarc "@surftohealth88 You bring up some interesting points, really centered around choline. I know that egg yolks..." + (show)
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@surftohealth88
You bring up some interesting points, really centered around choline. I know that egg yolks have a lot of it and the whites don’t. I still eat 2 eggs twice a week, poached over an English muffin.

Apparently, chicken does have a fair amount of choline in it. An egg yolk has about 150mg and a lean 6oz chicken breast around 200 mg. A 3 1/2 ounce chicken thigh has 75 mg, I only eat chicken thighs. Probably closer to 5 ounces.

And then you run into absolutely weird facts like this

The danger of choline for someone with prostate cancer is still being researched, but some studies suggest high intake may increase the risk of aggressive or lethal prostate cancer, possibly by promoting tumor growth and inflammation. However, other studies have found no association between high choline intake and lethal prostate cancer, and some even suggest that high intake may not be associated with total prostate cancer risk. Therefore, it is recommended to consult with a doctor to determine the right amount of choline for their specific situation.

I’ve now been undetectable for 24 months. I probably eat fish three times a week and chicken four times a week. I also eat a small piece of cake or a couple of cookies every single night along with a bowl of strawberries. My wife likes to bake cookies and cakes,, I have six different things she keeps in the freezer. I eat one a night. I’m not nearly as good at this as you are, But after all these years, I have lost my strong fear of dying soon. I do eat a couple of ounces of Brie every day too, but mostly have Soy milk, 1/2 gallon a week with high protein cereal,. I do make cappuccino every morning with nonfat milk, The fat is what supposed to be the problem. When you steam milk you throw away about 3/4 of it So I probably only drink about 2 ounces a day. I’ve been a bad boy!!!???

I guess if my PSA started rising, I would probably cut back on some things. But everything in reasonable amounts seems to work.

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@jeffmarc

Ha ha, nope- you are not a bad boy !!! NOBODY is ; ), no matter what they eat. Everybody does what they feel is right for them. Many just do not give a damn and they have right to do that and not be judged by anybody. Everybody knows that smoking is bad but MANY smoke. Everybody knows that fatty diet is wrong but MANY refuse to give up bacon and cream. I, for example, know that I should start exercising but I don't lol - but I am not in denial that I am doing a wrong thing and that I will live a shorter life. As long as we are aware of consequences all is OK. We can choose what we wish to do and we can choose comfort over longevity - but we can not pretend that we can do better ; ). I am not going to make excuses for myself and blame "studies" ; ) and inconsistency in methodologies and contradictory advises about "how much exercise is needed to be beneficial" every 10 years - it is better to exercise - PERIOD lol. It is better not to eat animal products - period. What anybody chooses to do is their own business and I do not think anybody is bad regardless of what they eat or not eat : )))

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mjp0512 | @mjp0512 | Dec 5, 2025
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@mjp0512 A delicacy in France served warm over frisee…you gotta know HOW to live, not just live a long time! Great pix.
Phil

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@heavyphil
"you gotta know HOW to live, not just live a long time!"

Exactly...I'm 70 years old with heart failure and metastatic cancer. I'm pretty sure that eating some eggs (or steak, cake, or cookies for that matter) is the least of my concerns.

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surftohealth88 | @surftohealth88 | Dec 5, 2025
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@heavyphil
"you gotta know HOW to live, not just live a long time!"

Exactly...I'm 70 years old with heart failure and metastatic cancer. I'm pretty sure that eating some eggs (or steak, cake, or cookies for that matter) is the least of my concerns.

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@mjp0512

I absolutely understand you < 3 and agree with you. : )

Decision is very personal and as any medical procedure or advise it all depends of the disease stage, status, age, comorbidities, etc etc.

If somebody is otherwise in perfect health, diet and exercise could make a difference in preventing aggressive types of PC and possibly slow down appearance of BCR and that is all.

Everybody has a right to do whatever they wish with provided information but it is good to be informed. : )

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