Dairy and prostate cancer: Conflicting information

Posted by rice @rice, Apr 18 8:04am

Hi! I am 73 and have 6 prostate cancer that is being watched. I drink a lot of milk and eat a lot of cheese I have read some studies that say whole milk was associated with prostate cancer and to drink fat free milk. Then I read another study saying that skim milk was associated with prostate cancer, but high fat milk was ok to drink. Then I read another study that says no association between dairy and Prostate cancer. Kind of confusing ! does anyone have an opinion on this

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@rice

My cholesterol was high so to avoid meds I stopped dairy and red meat and my cholesterol went to normal and I hope it will be good for my prostate cancer then I read that eggs were hard on PC ! Anyone hear anything about avoiding eggs?

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The article someone shared earlier suggested that there might be some extremely-mild correlation (no established causation) between PC progression and eating more than 2 egg yokes/week.

That said, correlation in one or two studies is very unreliable, because the cause could be an unknown third factor (e.g. people who eat a lot of eggs might be more likely to overeat other foods).

High cholesterol is a whole different thing — we *know* that too many egg yolks are harmful there — and moderation is always a good idea, but there's no need to self-impose too many dietary restrictions because of a few isolated studies.

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@northoftheborder

Just to add to the discussion, I've been vegetarian since the 1990s, when I had some kind of stomach flu and developed an aversion to meat afterwards.

As decades of research suggests, the absence of red meat, especially, from my diet has led to excellent *colon* health (I haven't had even the tiniest benign polyp show up yet in a colonoscopy, unlike my siblings), but it didn't stop me from developing advanced prostate cancer.

Healthy eating is good for many reasons, but there's no magic preventative for all cancers.

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Exactly! A good friend of mine chose alternative medicine to treat his leukemia. He had guidance from the Leahy Clinic in Boston.
He took large amounts of Green Tea extract pills and his numbers came way down and he stayed like this for years….then he got prostate cancer. You just can’t win!😹

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Here's one very long article on eggs and prostate cancer. You have to go to the very bottom. I am not a scientist, but I have chosen to stay away from red meat and eggs. My choice.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3232297/

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@dmccarthy104

Here's one very long article on eggs and prostate cancer. You have to go to the very bottom. I am not a scientist, but I have chosen to stay away from red meat and eggs. My choice.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3232297/

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After my RP, I asked my Urologist is there any food to stay away from. His only response was, “no red meat!” That wasn’t a problem for me as I gave it up 20 years ago!

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@kjacko

After my RP, I asked my Urologist is there any food to stay away from. His only response was, “no red meat!” That wasn’t a problem for me as I gave it up 20 years ago!

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Whereas my oncologist told me I can have a T-bone steak and a glass of red wine. Not everyday of course. What gives?
There seems to be a consensus that Vitamin D is good. It helps build the immune system
Dont mind me. I am just another layman trying to make some sense of the whole thing.

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@wellness100

Whereas my oncologist told me I can have a T-bone steak and a glass of red wine. Not everyday of course. What gives?
There seems to be a consensus that Vitamin D is good. It helps build the immune system
Dont mind me. I am just another layman trying to make some sense of the whole thing.

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Just like many other things, you could ask 100 “experts” and get 100 different answers. I do agree on the Vitamin D. I take a 5000 capsule every day.

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I agree with the last two posts. Until there's strong evidence and a medical consensus about a causal relationship between any kind of diet and prostate-cancer progression, your best bet is to continue to eat what would constitute a healthy diet if you *didn't* have cancer.

That can vary depending on your beliefs, culture, and other medical conditions (like allergies, high cholesterol or diabetes), but essentially, your grandma had the right idea: cover 1/2 of your plate with vegetables, 1/4 with starches (rice, potatoes, etc), and 1/4 with a higher-protein source. Eat modest-sized 1940s portions, not super-sized 2020s portions (buy smaller plates if it helps). Don't eat the same thing every day — especially not red meat, which your grandma probably couldn't afford to eat every day anyway.

As they reportedly say in the U.S. military, K.I.S.S.

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@kjacko

Just like many other things, you could ask 100 “experts” and get 100 different answers. I do agree on the Vitamin D. I take a 5000 capsule every day.

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Do you take vitamin k too

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@carlwgordon

Do you take vitamin k too

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Vitamin D and Magnesium. The magnesium has nothing to do with my PC.

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@northoftheborder

I agree with the last two posts. Until there's strong evidence and a medical consensus about a causal relationship between any kind of diet and prostate-cancer progression, your best bet is to continue to eat what would constitute a healthy diet if you *didn't* have cancer.

That can vary depending on your beliefs, culture, and other medical conditions (like allergies, high cholesterol or diabetes), but essentially, your grandma had the right idea: cover 1/2 of your plate with vegetables, 1/4 with starches (rice, potatoes, etc), and 1/4 with a higher-protein source. Eat modest-sized 1940s portions, not super-sized 2020s portions (buy smaller plates if it helps). Don't eat the same thing every day — especially not red meat, which your grandma probably couldn't afford to eat every day anyway.

As they reportedly say in the U.S. military, K.I.S.S.

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Chemo does affect your immune system and your red blood cell. So you may need iron intake to bring the level up, depending on your blood test of course. . Also you would need calcium to harden your bones so as to minimize the risk of bone metastasis. Beef may be considered a good source of iron. Vitamin D and K help your body to absorb these elements into the system. Also Vitamin Bs.

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