crown is making saliva thick and dried. Feels like peeling.

Posted by lucybunyard @lucybunyard, May 10, 2024

OK, I'm new. I was diagnosed with Sjogren's Syndrome over 20 years ago. I have never had any symptoms, and recently my test results actually went down. I am unfamiliar with the tests, but a 14 is normal, and my numbers are at 17. The highest they have ever been is 21. Now for the story. 10 years ago, I got a temp crown. My mouth began to peel on the inside. When the real crown was put on it stopped. Well, that crown broke. I had another temp crown put on, and it started up again. I thought when I got the real crown it would stop. That was in March. My mouth is a mess!!!! The dentist denies that it could be the crown. My rheumatologist says that the crown is highly suspect! The dentist says that nothing is different even though it has been 10 years. He did grind off some of the top of the crown to make the bite fit better. Anyway, I am so miserable. I am on pills to make my saliva thinner, but it doesn't really work very well. My saliva sticks to me all over, dries, and is very painful. I am certain that it is this that is peeling.
I just don't know what to do. I would have the tooth pulled, but I am afraid that it might not fix anything. This all started with the temp crown (within 3 days) and kicked it in high gear when the new crown was put in..... I need help. I am desperate! Please help!

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@loribmt

Hi @lindaray. You’ve certainly been through the wringer with little ‘ol tooth #3 with a new crown, root canal, an apioectomy and the possible side-related issues in your mouth. You gave very detailed and helpful accounting of what’s transpired over the past year with that tooth.

With the deterioration of the tooth under that old crown from 20 years ago and the pain you were having in the tooth, it’s a possibility that it was already in the beginning stages of dying. It can be difficult to diagnose at that stage and often doesn’t show up on an xray at the apex of the tooth until there is an actual infection. So your dentist, at the time, may not have been aware.

When the crown was placed and it felt off, it may have been due to the tooth (nerves in the tooth) being dead. The pain associated with it could have been from the abscess forming on the apex of the tooth and the tooth might have felt ‘off’ because of lack of sensation with the dead nerve tissue.
It sounds like the infection with the root canal was a little challenging with its recurrence in one of the roots, requiring the apioectomy. Were you given any antibiotics at the time of the root canal treatment or when the abscess was first discovered?

Fast forward to now, with the symptoms of dry and burning mouth that you’re dealing with. That’s a miserable condtion!
I’m not a dentist but as @gingerw mentioned, my career was in the dental field for 30+ years. So I’m digging into experiences I recollect to relay some possibilities. While not common, it is possible for patients to have allergic responses to the material used in the permanent crown. Also not common but possible is long term inflammation from the abscess and root canal treatment which is initiating an autoimmune response. I can recall 2 occasions when patients had long term issues where the resolution was the removal of the offending tooth. Which I’m sure you’re reluctant to do because of the money invested in it already. Again, I’m just tossing these scenarios to you as examples of actual patient experiences.

First it’s important to find the underlying cause of the inflammation. My suggestion is to try your primary care physican, a rheumatologist or a Functional Medicine practitioner to check to see if you have inflammation in your body. This is done through simple blood work and then work from there. The doctor may be able to help you discern if there is any correlation between the tooth and your inflammation or if this triggered an auto immune disease such as S’jogrens symdrome. Which a rhuematologist will be able to diagnosie.

If you’re one to do research this article discusses the potential for autoimmune responses with an abscessed tooth. From PubMed:
Root Canal Infection and Its Impact on the Oral Cavity Microenvironment in the Context of Immune System Disorders in Selected Diseases: A Narrative Review https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10298853/

I have burning mouth syndrome related to a medical condition and when I have flares I avoid toothpaste with mint and use children’s toothpaste. I also switched to a super soft child’s brush. I avoid ice, condiments with acid, salt, or hot spices. One thing that seems to offer a level of comfort is ‘Pulling” with coconut oil. 1 teaspoon or more of organic coconut oil. I let it melt over my tongue then swish vigorously around my mouth for 20 minutes. Then spit into a tissue. Not the drain because it will clog eventually.
I hope you find resolution soon and please let me updated, ok?

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I would highly recommend seeing a functional medicine doctor as suggested. I finally went to one for other reasons and she tested me in ways other doctors did not, But functional medicine doctors look for the CAUSE much better than traditional doctors and they are very familiar with testing for inflammation. There is a website - ifm.org - institute for functional medicine - and you can search for one by city and state. Each doctor on the site has a bio and a list of conditions they specialize in.
Good Luck to you - not easy at all dealing with a long term problem that impacts your life!

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@gigi4

I would highly recommend seeing a functional medicine doctor as suggested. I finally went to one for other reasons and she tested me in ways other doctors did not, But functional medicine doctors look for the CAUSE much better than traditional doctors and they are very familiar with testing for inflammation. There is a website - ifm.org - institute for functional medicine - and you can search for one by city and state. Each doctor on the site has a bio and a list of conditions they specialize in.
Good Luck to you - not easy at all dealing with a long term problem that impacts your life!

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Hi @gigi4. It’s so encouraging that you also had a positive experience with a functional medicine doctor. I was really suffering during menopause with no help from my ob-gyn. A visit with a functional medicine practitioner was a game changer! Thank you for sharing!

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