Chronic Back Pain for Years

Posted by jlfisher56 @jlfisher56, May 2, 2017

6 back surgeries (extensive cervical and lumbar fusions) with neurological complications. Left with chronic pain. Accident happened in Nursing career 1992 and worked with first fusions until 1999 (failed fusions). At my age, and as a former nurse educator, I never wanted to had to rely on medication/s for the severe pain. Having thoroughly exhausted exploring sites using non-pharmaceutical methods, using psychological methods, biofeedback, trying to accept my limitations, i.e., I still believe somewhere…out there…is hope. The strong medicine has caused gastroparesis, further complicating my health problems. They are too numerous to write and I will not focus on them. I am looking for “help” and guidance. If I can be of assistance to anyone throughout their trials, (perhaps similar to some of what I have gone through), I will.

@artscaping

@pfbacon, @qball2019, Greetings from MN. I am sending you this link because I think you said you lived in Delaware. Here is an advanced myofascial release (MFR) therapist in Newark. https://www.mfrtherapists.com/app/listings/therapist/?ID=1351. I cannot possibly convey to you the advantages of receiving MFR therapy every week. I think I am alive and feeling hopeful because of my weekly treatment. And you are right…..after a day or two of surprising relief, I can tell that some of the fascia restrictions are beginning to pop up in different places. Now that I have progressed in my understanding of the technique, I find that I can do some of the procedures myself. My therapist also invited my life partner to come and participate. He now helps keep me flexible and without sizable fascia restrictions. And before I forget, let me ask @jenniferhunter to relay her MFR experience for you.

I also use 4 inch balls to keep my body aligned and a Cranio Cradle to make sure the nerves leaving my head/neck area are headed in the right direction. Be safe and please enjoy a pain free hour or even a whole day. Chris

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I just googled it. It kind of sounds like slow massage of specific places, not muscles, I'm not sure where but I'll find out. There is a place that does MFR 1/2 a mile from me (I'm in Bethany Beach, Delaware). I said I would try anything, I will try it. I'll call them tomorrow – I'll let you know how it goes. I've been a guinea pig in more difficult situations than getting a massage … Peggy

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@pfbacon

Yes – I try to remember to get a massage once a month but it ends up being about once every 6 months. It too, helps while I'm there, but as soon as I go home, the effect is worn off and I'm on fire again. I give up and take the capsules. Peggy

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@pfbacon I hear you on the massage. Really the best thing to do is find a massage therapist that also does myofascial release. It's amazing and really helps.

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@pfbacon The fascia is like the silver skin on red meat. It encases all of our organs. When any kind of trauma happens it can tighten up. This is different that muscles/massage. You first need to get the fascia to release before you can start stretches and more vigorous activities. You will be sore afterward. I know I am whether it's MFR or massage. Try using a heating pad, sitting in a hot tub, or just a hot bath. Will be waiting to hear how your appt. goes. Best of luck to you.

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@pfbacon

I just googled it. It kind of sounds like slow massage of specific places, not muscles, I'm not sure where but I'll find out. There is a place that does MFR 1/2 a mile from me (I'm in Bethany Beach, Delaware). I said I would try anything, I will try it. I'll call them tomorrow – I'll let you know how it goes. I've been a guinea pig in more difficult situations than getting a massage … Peggy

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@pfbacon I,ll be interested in hearing about your experience with MFR

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@lioness

@pfbacon I,ll be interested in hearing about your experience with MFR

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@pfbacon, @qball2019, @lioness, @jenniferhunter Just sending this to @pfbacon because of the Delaware connection but wanted to include all of you. Not all Expert John Barnes MFR therapists are listed on the website. My MFR therapist just told me that Mark Thompson is in Rehobeth Beach at One Spirit Massage Studio. The website is onespiritmassage.com. That's just a stone's throw from Bethany Beach. She knows him personally and highly recommends him. If anyone wants to find out if there is an MFR therapist near you…I am happy to do the research….just let me know the area. Have a restful sleep. Good night. Chris

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@artscaping

@pfbacon, @qball2019, @lioness, @jenniferhunter Just sending this to @pfbacon because of the Delaware connection but wanted to include all of you. Not all Expert John Barnes MFR therapists are listed on the website. My MFR therapist just told me that Mark Thompson is in Rehobeth Beach at One Spirit Massage Studio. The website is onespiritmassage.com. That's just a stone's throw from Bethany Beach. She knows him personally and highly recommends him. If anyone wants to find out if there is an MFR therapist near you…I am happy to do the research….just let me know the area. Have a restful sleep. Good night. Chris

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@artscaping Thanks I use to go to Ocean city Md on vacation being I did live in Pa but in Ca. now looking for a MFR in Long Beach CA Have to search

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@artscaping

@pfbacon, @qball2019, @lioness, @jenniferhunter Just sending this to @pfbacon because of the Delaware connection but wanted to include all of you. Not all Expert John Barnes MFR therapists are listed on the website. My MFR therapist just told me that Mark Thompson is in Rehobeth Beach at One Spirit Massage Studio. The website is onespiritmassage.com. That's just a stone's throw from Bethany Beach. She knows him personally and highly recommends him. If anyone wants to find out if there is an MFR therapist near you…I am happy to do the research….just let me know the area. Have a restful sleep. Good night. Chris

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@artscaping @lioness Thanks, Chris! I'm sure that information will help someone. Yes, not all Myofascial Release therapists are listed on the website. They have to pay for that listing. My MFR therapist recommends that if you don't find someone, you can call Therapy on the Rocks in Sedona, AZ. This is John Barnes' clinic and he is teaching his methods and certifying the therapists in MFR work. They have advanced courses for therapists that specialize in different areas and sometimes workshops for the public. For anyone new to this discussion the website is https://www.myofascialrelease.com/ . We also have a discussion on MFR here on connect with more information. That link is https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/myofascial-release-therapy-mfr-for-treating-compression-and-pain/

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@vklittle61

What makes this different from a regular massage

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@vklittle61 @pfbacon Think of MFR like this. Think about kneading bread dough. You sink in and push, but when you push stop and hold it. What the therapist does is to feel the tension in the fascia when they push and they keep tension on it until it moves. They see which direction moves the easiest and sometimes they push against that first, and then change the angle when it starts to slide. It has to be a shearing action, and it isn't a hard push at all, you gently go to the barrier and hold it. There is a video in the MFR discussion where you can see John Barnes do this and explain it. https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/myofascial-release-therapy-mfr-for-treating-compression-and-pain/

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@artscaping

@pfbacon, @qball2019, Greetings from MN. I am sending you this link because I think you said you lived in Delaware. Here is an advanced myofascial release (MFR) therapist in Newark. https://www.mfrtherapists.com/app/listings/therapist/?ID=1351. I cannot possibly convey to you the advantages of receiving MFR therapy every week. I think I am alive and feeling hopeful because of my weekly treatment. And you are right…..after a day or two of surprising relief, I can tell that some of the fascia restrictions are beginning to pop up in different places. Now that I have progressed in my understanding of the technique, I find that I can do some of the procedures myself. My therapist also invited my life partner to come and participate. He now helps keep me flexible and without sizable fascia restrictions. And before I forget, let me ask @jenniferhunter to relay her MFR experience for you.

I also use 4 inch balls to keep my body aligned and a Cranio Cradle to make sure the nerves leaving my head/neck area are headed in the right direction. Be safe and please enjoy a pain free hour or even a whole day. Chris

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@artscaping @pfbacon @qball2019 MFR has helped me a lot. I have thoracic outlet syndrome which causes one side of my neck and chest to be tighter. It's like living in a straight jacket. That was causing a functional scoliosis to develop and I have had physical breathing problems where one side of my chest doesn't expand as much as the other side. The functional scoliosis has been cured by MFR and is no longer evident on MRI. Now we can feel individual muscles in my neck which before were just a solid hard mass. I have better posture. I have less nerve pain in my arms that was coming from entrapment in the tight spaces where the nerves pass through. I have fewer headaches.

I also self treat at home with several things…small 3 inch balls, foam roller, Body Back Roller (hard wood roller, massages muscles next to spine), Davinci tool, webbing straps, Sacro Wedgie, triangular foam blocks, 3 inch hard foam dice from the Dollar store, and even a question mark shaped tool with rotating rubber knobs on it that came from 5 Below. With that I can push when my hands can't get into the right position. You can lay on the balls or blocks and also use a doorway to push up against. You learn by feel what your body needs and what to do. My therapist also gives me suggestions for homework. During my physical therapy for TOS, my spine problem became apparent, and I had to stop therapy and have spine surgery. I'm a couple years past that and back to working on TOS again in therapy. My spine surgery recovery was also better because of the MFR work I had been doing for a few years prior to it. The muscles were looser, and it was easier for my surgeon to retract my neck during surgery. Of course that all tightened from the surgical incision, but MFR loosens that too and breaks up the scar tissue. As it changes from day to day, I stretch out the tightness as it happens. I also work on my core strength and riding my horse is great for that. Once you get back to correct posture because your body can move properly again, building strength to keep it there helps maintain what you've gained.

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@jenniferhunter

@artscaping @pfbacon @qball2019 MFR has helped me a lot. I have thoracic outlet syndrome which causes one side of my neck and chest to be tighter. It's like living in a straight jacket. That was causing a functional scoliosis to develop and I have had physical breathing problems where one side of my chest doesn't expand as much as the other side. The functional scoliosis has been cured by MFR and is no longer evident on MRI. Now we can feel individual muscles in my neck which before were just a solid hard mass. I have better posture. I have less nerve pain in my arms that was coming from entrapment in the tight spaces where the nerves pass through. I have fewer headaches.

I also self treat at home with several things…small 3 inch balls, foam roller, Body Back Roller (hard wood roller, massages muscles next to spine), Davinci tool, webbing straps, Sacro Wedgie, triangular foam blocks, 3 inch hard foam dice from the Dollar store, and even a question mark shaped tool with rotating rubber knobs on it that came from 5 Below. With that I can push when my hands can't get into the right position. You can lay on the balls or blocks and also use a doorway to push up against. You learn by feel what your body needs and what to do. My therapist also gives me suggestions for homework. During my physical therapy for TOS, my spine problem became apparent, and I had to stop therapy and have spine surgery. I'm a couple years past that and back to working on TOS again in therapy. My spine surgery recovery was also better because of the MFR work I had been doing for a few years prior to it. The muscles were looser, and it was easier for my surgeon to retract my neck during surgery. Of course that all tightened from the surgical incision, but MFR loosens that too and breaks up the scar tissue. As it changes from day to day, I stretch out the tightness as it happens. I also work on my core strength and riding my horse is great for that. Once you get back to correct posture because your body can move properly again, building strength to keep it there helps maintain what you've gained.

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@jenniferhunter, @pfbacon, @qball2019, @lioness Good morning. Thanks, @jenniferhunter for that heartfelt explanation of MFR and the results you have had. I believe @lioness you now live in Long Beach. In Seal Beach…just down the road, you will find Sage Bodyworks and Wellness with an Expert level MFR practitioner.

And just south of that in San Clemente, you will find Lasting Pain Relief Center also with an Expert practitioner. In Laguna Niguel there is Sure Step Rehab Inc with an Advanced level practitioner. And just a few miles west in Newport Beach there is an expert MFR practitioner at Focus on Health a Physical Therapy Corporation. All have good ratings from patients.

Once you have experienced the way a restriction releases and you can enjoy painless movement in a formerly tight area, you will be encouraged. Sometimes there is some soreness with the release movements and then it goes away. Because the fascia is in layers, you may have another restriction in the same place at a later date. With a focus on body alignment, proper sitting, and the stretching and strength-building of gentle yoga, your treatments will last longer. And don't forget that cranial cradle which helps align those nerves at the root of all evil where they begin their journey down our body. Stay healthy and be safe from harm. Let me know if there are other places you would like me to research for you. Chris

PS for those of you wondering…..I also lived in Delaware for 15 years, in Redondo Beach for a bit and in San Diego for another 15 years. I just moved from Idyllwild after 20 years and too many fires.

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@artscaping

@jenniferhunter, @pfbacon, @qball2019, @lioness Good morning. Thanks, @jenniferhunter for that heartfelt explanation of MFR and the results you have had. I believe @lioness you now live in Long Beach. In Seal Beach…just down the road, you will find Sage Bodyworks and Wellness with an Expert level MFR practitioner.

And just south of that in San Clemente, you will find Lasting Pain Relief Center also with an Expert practitioner. In Laguna Niguel there is Sure Step Rehab Inc with an Advanced level practitioner. And just a few miles west in Newport Beach there is an expert MFR practitioner at Focus on Health a Physical Therapy Corporation. All have good ratings from patients.

Once you have experienced the way a restriction releases and you can enjoy painless movement in a formerly tight area, you will be encouraged. Sometimes there is some soreness with the release movements and then it goes away. Because the fascia is in layers, you may have another restriction in the same place at a later date. With a focus on body alignment, proper sitting, and the stretching and strength-building of gentle yoga, your treatments will last longer. And don't forget that cranial cradle which helps align those nerves at the root of all evil where they begin their journey down our body. Stay healthy and be safe from harm. Let me know if there are other places you would like me to research for you. Chris

PS for those of you wondering…..I also lived in Delaware for 15 years, in Redondo Beach for a bit and in San Diego for another 15 years. I just moved from Idyllwild after 20 years and too many fires.

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@artscaping Thank you Chris Idyllwild really got hit with fire recently know your glad your not there I will check out the one in Seal Beach 😎👍 thanks again have a good day

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Small world! I lived in Los Angeles most of my life – I remember seeing fires coming down the hillsides of the San Fernando Valley all the way from my home in Palos Verdes. Before PV, I lived in Studio City, Sherman Oaks, Thousand Oaks, Pacific Palisades, and I have vacationed in all the other towns you mentioned. I will always be a Californian – it warms my heart just to see all this chat about my homeland. Re: MFR: There was a glitch with my appointment today, I went there for the MFR but it takes 1 1/2 hours and he only had 1 hour so I got a regular massage (which helps for a while), we will do MFR next time. Thank you all for your good advice and support! Peggy

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Small world! I lived in Los Angeles most of my life – I remember seeing fires coming down the hillsides of the San Fernando Valley all the way from my home in Palos Verdes. Before PV, I lived in Studio City, Sherman Oaks, Thousand Oaks, Pacific Palisades, and I have vacationed in all the other towns you mentioned. I will always be a Californian – it warms my heart just to see all this chat about my homeland. Re: MFR: There was a glitch with my appointment today, I went there for the MFR but it takes 1 1/2 hours and he only had 1 hour so I got a regular massage (which helps for a while), we will do MFR next time. Thank you all for your good advice and support! Peggy

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@pfbacon That must have been a disappointment for you Let me know when you have MFR I could see the fires from where I live closest it came to me in Long Beach When I don't see Palos Verde I know we are getting a heavy rain as it was this winter

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Hi All!

It's been some time since I posted.
Thank goodness, since my 2 spinal surgeries, I haven't had to.
But I am getting a little worried.
The last 2 mornings I have been woken up by bad headaches.
These headaches are all too familiar.
That was how things started when I need surgery on my cervical spine.
The surgery was a success and the headaches have been gone since March 2018….that is until a couple of days ago.

Looks like here we go again……and I just booked a 3 week vacation that cannot be refunded.
Guess I'll mention it to the doc but just live with it until we after the summer.

And so it goes………………….
Ronnie (GRANDMAr)

BTW…When I told my pain doc that I was having the surgery, he said HE felt that instead of C5/6, I needed the surgery further up. Who knows???

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@grandmar

Hi All!

It's been some time since I posted.
Thank goodness, since my 2 spinal surgeries, I haven't had to.
But I am getting a little worried.
The last 2 mornings I have been woken up by bad headaches.
These headaches are all too familiar.
That was how things started when I need surgery on my cervical spine.
The surgery was a success and the headaches have been gone since March 2018….that is until a couple of days ago.

Looks like here we go again……and I just booked a 3 week vacation that cannot be refunded.
Guess I'll mention it to the doc but just live with it until we after the summer.

And so it goes………………….
Ronnie (GRANDMAr)

BTW…When I told my pain doc that I was having the surgery, he said HE felt that instead of C5/6, I needed the surgery further up. Who knows???

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@grandmar Of all times ,right .I hope you can go on vacation ,but I wouldn't want to be miserable. Maybe Dr can give you something so you can go 😉 I hope so 😁😊👍

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