Chronic Back Pain for Years

Posted by jlfisher56 @jlfisher56, May 2, 2017

6 back surgeries (extensive cervical and lumbar fusions) with neurological complications. Left with chronic pain. Accident happened in Nursing career 1992 and worked with first fusions until 1999 (failed fusions). At my age, and as a former nurse educator, I never wanted to had to rely on medication/s for the severe pain. Having thoroughly exhausted exploring sites using non-pharmaceutical methods, using psychological methods, biofeedback, trying to accept my limitations, i.e., I still believe somewhere…out there…is hope. The strong medicine has caused gastroparesis, further complicating my health problems. They are too numerous to write and I will not focus on them. I am looking for “help” and guidance. If I can be of assistance to anyone throughout their trials, (perhaps similar to some of what I have gone through), I will.

@jakedduck1

Thank you Gail and Ronnie, I haven’t watched the info yet but I will. I do think it needs to be throughly researched but it is anainst federal law which I support and believe it should be against the law in all states. I understand why people use it. However I feel doctors are being far to irresponsible in giving out the card or prescriptions.
There are to many people using it only to get the high and many openly admit it. Marijuana is nothing like it was in the 60’s, the THC is much more potent. Research shows 30 percent of Marijuana users have some degree of addiction. Kids under 18 are 4-7 times more likely to abuse it than are adults. I will never forget the young couple who were going to bath their young son but were smoking Marijuana and their son drowned. Sadly there are to many “accidents” similar to this. Last I heard there were 483 different chemicals identified in marijuana. How safe are they? How much is actually known about them? I heard that marijuana available in Colorado had no THC that was given to children with Epilepsy. My friends say I’m against it, not true at all. I just want to be assured it and all it’s components are safe for human consumption.

Jump to this post

@2011panc

Medical marijuana comes in all forms. All those forms can make you high and be used recreationally if people choose to. Please direct us to the citation and source for your statement that true medical marijuana is not inhaled. I am curious where that idea came from as I have never heard or read that before. I know cancer sufferers and others with seizure problems inhale marijuana for medical use.

Gailb
Volunteer Mentor

REPLY
@jakedduck1

Thank you Gail and Ronnie, I haven’t watched the info yet but I will. I do think it needs to be throughly researched but it is anainst federal law which I support and believe it should be against the law in all states. I understand why people use it. However I feel doctors are being far to irresponsible in giving out the card or prescriptions.
There are to many people using it only to get the high and many openly admit it. Marijuana is nothing like it was in the 60’s, the THC is much more potent. Research shows 30 percent of Marijuana users have some degree of addiction. Kids under 18 are 4-7 times more likely to abuse it than are adults. I will never forget the young couple who were going to bath their young son but were smoking Marijuana and their son drowned. Sadly there are to many “accidents” similar to this. Last I heard there were 483 different chemicals identified in marijuana. How safe are they? How much is actually known about them? I heard that marijuana available in Colorado had no THC that was given to children with Epilepsy. My friends say I’m against it, not true at all. I just want to be assured it and all it’s components are safe for human consumption.

Jump to this post

@geezappeal1

I'm so glad you found the Mayo Connect Community and this thread. I'm very concerned about your situation. I'm a Volunteer Mentor with Mayo Connect and not a medical professional therefore I cannot make medical diagnoses or give medical advice. I can offer my experience, knowledge, and support.

In order to get to know you better and welcome you to the community, please tell me about what brought you to the Chronic pain thread here. Only share as much as you feel comfortable doing. Are you under the care of a general practitioner doctor? Why did you leave the Pain Clinic? How can we support you. I'm so sorry you are in such pain. I hope to hear from you soon.

Gailb
Volunteer Mentor

REPLY
@jakedduck1

Thank you Gail and Ronnie, I haven’t watched the info yet but I will. I do think it needs to be throughly researched but it is anainst federal law which I support and believe it should be against the law in all states. I understand why people use it. However I feel doctors are being far to irresponsible in giving out the card or prescriptions.
There are to many people using it only to get the high and many openly admit it. Marijuana is nothing like it was in the 60’s, the THC is much more potent. Research shows 30 percent of Marijuana users have some degree of addiction. Kids under 18 are 4-7 times more likely to abuse it than are adults. I will never forget the young couple who were going to bath their young son but were smoking Marijuana and their son drowned. Sadly there are to many “accidents” similar to this. Last I heard there were 483 different chemicals identified in marijuana. How safe are they? How much is actually known about them? I heard that marijuana available in Colorado had no THC that was given to children with Epilepsy. My friends say I’m against it, not true at all. I just want to be assured it and all it’s components are safe for human consumption.

Jump to this post

@geezapple1 Sorry you are in such pain I have used the cannabis balm it helps but want to find the drops as Gail has said they are sublinguil or put in tea .Have you tried the drops ? Welcome to this group Linda

REPLY

@2011panc
My goodness, something I didn’t know. I can’t be called a “know it all” anymore. So do you know if it is the THC that relieves pain? I read but don’t know if it’s true that THC has to be burned to create the high. This is such a complicated issue more than I’ll ever understand.

REPLY
@jakedduck1

@2011panc
My goodness, something I didn’t know. I can’t be called a “know it all” anymore. So do you know if it is the THC that relieves pain? I read but don’t know if it’s true that THC has to be burned to create the high. This is such a complicated issue more than I’ll ever understand.

Jump to this post

I live in Colorado where MJ is legal and I have CBD oil to rub onto sore spots.  In the shop where I bought it, I questioned them closely.  It seems any marijuana product has at least a low level of THC which causes the high.  My CBD oil doesn’t make me high but it does relieve pain.  Too bad this info isn’t readily available to everyone.  I’m retired Rehab Meds so I’m very cautious as to what I take.  @marylou705

REPLY
@jakedduck1

@2011panc
My goodness, something I didn’t know. I can’t be called a “know it all” anymore. So do you know if it is the THC that relieves pain? I read but don’t know if it’s true that THC has to be burned to create the high. This is such a complicated issue more than I’ll ever understand.

Jump to this post

@marylou75 do you know anything about the drops?I'm a retired LPN

REPLY
@jakedduck1

@2011panc
My goodness, something I didn’t know. I can’t be called a “know it all” anymore. So do you know if it is the THC that relieves pain? I read but don’t know if it’s true that THC has to be burned to create the high. This is such a complicated issue more than I’ll ever understand.

Jump to this post

I have a friend who likes the drops and I thought I might try them too.  The suppliers here all have to be licensed so they have to supply you with the info you want.  She seems to like the drops and says she doesn’t get high.  She’s out of town at the moment but I’ll ask her to take me to the shop again.  At the moment I’m banned from driving due to a mild stroke I had in January.  I’m walking with a walker for now and going to PT and OT.  As an aside, we have rescue animals and our 18 year old rescued Siamese gets two drops a day in her food!  She has hyperthroidism.  She sure is feisty for 4 lbs and 18 years olf!!  @marylou

REPLY
@jakedduck1

@2011panc
My goodness, something I didn’t know. I can’t be called a “know it all” anymore. So do you know if it is the THC that relieves pain? I read but don’t know if it’s true that THC has to be burned to create the high. This is such a complicated issue more than I’ll ever understand.

Jump to this post

@marylou705 ,thanks I'd appreciate it if you let me know sounds like your progressing well .bet your cat keeps you On your toes. Take care .Linda

REPLY
@jakedduck1

Thank you Gail and Ronnie, I haven’t watched the info yet but I will. I do think it needs to be throughly researched but it is anainst federal law which I support and believe it should be against the law in all states. I understand why people use it. However I feel doctors are being far to irresponsible in giving out the card or prescriptions.
There are to many people using it only to get the high and many openly admit it. Marijuana is nothing like it was in the 60’s, the THC is much more potent. Research shows 30 percent of Marijuana users have some degree of addiction. Kids under 18 are 4-7 times more likely to abuse it than are adults. I will never forget the young couple who were going to bath their young son but were smoking Marijuana and their son drowned. Sadly there are to many “accidents” similar to this. Last I heard there were 483 different chemicals identified in marijuana. How safe are they? How much is actually known about them? I heard that marijuana available in Colorado had no THC that was given to children with Epilepsy. My friends say I’m against it, not true at all. I just want to be assured it and all it’s components are safe for human consumption.

Jump to this post

Thank you for the information. I did not know that.
Ronnie

REPLY
@jakedduck1

@2011panc
My goodness, something I didn’t know. I can’t be called a “know it all” anymore. So do you know if it is the THC that relieves pain? I read but don’t know if it’s true that THC has to be burned to create the high. This is such a complicated issue more than I’ll ever understand.

Jump to this post

@jajakedduck1 I should have prefaced my remark with "I have been told" because I have no personal experience with marijuana. That being said, I also know nothing about the components or how presentation may change effects.

REPLY
@jakedduck1

Thank you Gail and Ronnie, I haven’t watched the info yet but I will. I do think it needs to be throughly researched but it is anainst federal law which I support and believe it should be against the law in all states. I understand why people use it. However I feel doctors are being far to irresponsible in giving out the card or prescriptions.
There are to many people using it only to get the high and many openly admit it. Marijuana is nothing like it was in the 60’s, the THC is much more potent. Research shows 30 percent of Marijuana users have some degree of addiction. Kids under 18 are 4-7 times more likely to abuse it than are adults. I will never forget the young couple who were going to bath their young son but were smoking Marijuana and their son drowned. Sadly there are to many “accidents” similar to this. Last I heard there were 483 different chemicals identified in marijuana. How safe are they? How much is actually known about them? I heard that marijuana available in Colorado had no THC that was given to children with Epilepsy. My friends say I’m against it, not true at all. I just want to be assured it and all it’s components are safe for human consumption.

Jump to this post

@gailb I apologize, I should have prefaced my comment with "I have been told" because I have no personal experience with marijuana.

REPLY

@marylou705
I hope your not getting all your information from the dispensary. They have to be biased.
BIG SALES IN CALIFORNIA TODAY!!!
Tomorrow new labeling laws and regulations go into effect. Supposedly either no pesticides or stricter laws on which can be used. Burning the pesticides alters there chemical makeup. Like now NO CONSUMER is really going to know for absolute surety what actually in the stuff. In California every Marijuana product must be labeled and pre packaged. Personally I don’t believe it will all be regulated or tested like it’s supposed to be. If any inert ingredients are used you have to be concerned where they are grown and what types of food, pesticides etc are being used. Prices go up tomorrow or Monday. Get prepared to fork over the bigger bucks kids.

REPLY
@parus

@gailb I see the pain specialist/neurologist in August. I will ask him about the Tramadol. Out of desperation I had botox injections from DDS because of TMJ. Not FDA approved for TMJ and set me back $1200. Trigger point injections in several areas as the clinching/grinding had my upper back (scoliosis) in a lot of pain. I have a splint and having it built back up has not helped. All docs around are fearful of prescribing anything stronger than OTC's. Hopefully this fear will pass. I don't have a history of substance abuse. The injections in my jaws has helped some. The whole body is connected!!! No relief from the other injections, but it can take 3 to 10 days to notice any change. Sure hope I did not throw that money a way.
Anyone else have experience with botox injections?

Jump to this post

@parus What a lovely picture – you are a great shutterbug!

Teresa

REPLY
@parus

@gailb I see the pain specialist/neurologist in August. I will ask him about the Tramadol. Out of desperation I had botox injections from DDS because of TMJ. Not FDA approved for TMJ and set me back $1200. Trigger point injections in several areas as the clinching/grinding had my upper back (scoliosis) in a lot of pain. I have a splint and having it built back up has not helped. All docs around are fearful of prescribing anything stronger than OTC's. Hopefully this fear will pass. I don't have a history of substance abuse. The injections in my jaws has helped some. The whole body is connected!!! No relief from the other injections, but it can take 3 to 10 days to notice any change. Sure hope I did not throw that money a way.
Anyone else have experience with botox injections?

Jump to this post

Hello @parus

You mentioned trigger point injections – what type of injections are these, i.e., steroids or Botox?

Teresa

REPLY
@jakedduck1

@2011panc
My goodness, something I didn’t know. I can’t be called a “know it all” anymore. So do you know if it is the THC that relieves pain? I read but don’t know if it’s true that THC has to be burned to create the high. This is such a complicated issue more than I’ll ever understand.

Jump to this post

I wish it was available. I had it when living in Oregon and just assumed Texas allowed. NO

REPLY
Please login or register to post a reply.