Chronic itching, no response to various diets or skin treatments

Posted by fran0529 @fran0529, Feb 18 4:09pm

I am a 84 year old male blessed with good health for most of my life. I work out 4-5 times a week and play tennis on a regular basis. About two years ago I began to have moderate to severe itching on my scalp and forehead. I have been diagnosed with candida, SIBO and histamine overgrowth but none of the medical practitioners I have seen have been able to provide me with a treatment that relieves the itching. Other symptoms include significant diarrhea (ameliorated only by a round of xifaxon). My weight has decreased from 160 pounds to 145 pounds where it has stabilized. I also have significant bloating but no nausea. I have used aloe and various creams to ameliorate the itching with mixed results. I no longer drink alcohol which generated the worst systems. My diet consists of oatmeal, blueberries and oat milk for breakfast, three eggs, egg yolks and Uncle Daves bread for lunch and quinoa, veggies and mostly chicken for dinner. Eat very little sugar products. Has anybody seeing this had a similar problem that has been cured or knows a medical practitioner who has helped them get rid of this problem

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@fran0529

Thanks very much for your suggestions and comments. I will be more careful about the oatmeal I buy and I will switch to Dove soap and take a crack at FOODMAP.

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I hope something works for you. Unfortunately, and especially as we get older, we turn into our own science experiments. Everyone is different in what triggers us. When I had to go gluten free, my GI symptoms cleared up in a few days, but my rash took a few months.

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With weight loss, bloating , bowel changes and itch it would be beneficial to have a consultation with your primary and testing to rule out internal causes
and review all of your medications.
If the scalp is a seborrheic or mild psoriasis condition you likely have seen a
dermatologist. I rotate shampoos on a daily basis at least 4 times a week:
OTC selenium sulfide, 3 % salicylic acid, zinc pyrithione and Rx ketoconazole shampoo. Leave the foams in contact with your scalp for a few minutes and
gently massage. They are not likely to irritate your forehead. You can also buy
1% hydrocortisone lotion such as Dermarest.

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The weight loss and abdominal symptoms are concerning.. see your internist for a thorough physical and labs. Check for any swollen lymph nodes.
All the best🙏🏻

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Hello, I feel for you. I’m a 77 year age woman. I was diagnosed with SLE about 4 or 5 years ago, plus Hashimoto’s. Men, as well as women can have SLE; so have you been tested? The various symptoms could very well be SLE as I experience them as well. For the never understood symptoms I found that Zyrtec almost always cures the itch at that time. I, too, was athletic and suddenly I became weak. At times I know I should eat but I’m not hungry. I eat no meats. Only seafood as in 1993 it was determined I was allergic to all meat, including eggs. My horrible rashes were on my legs ultimately after huge red itchy areas were diagnosed as “eczema” meaning, nobody knows what is causing it and always was placed on prednisone or antibiotics and given a steroid topical cream. Which did not help. I’ve scars from scratching so much. But the leg rash went away after the diagnoses and I can no longer have gluten, dairy, wheat, no cruciferous vegetables or anything from the nightshade family. I’m sure I’m forgetting something.
After being diagnosed, I told my doctor to just treat my symptoms as had been done by various doctors in the past.
Nobody believed I had SLE as no rash on my face. My cousin has discoid lupus. Her face looked like my legs with the horrible itching, etc. I believe I have had or have sjorgen (everything is very dry). I’ve had some rare eye issues as well that were autoimmune related and have always been told all these may come back. I had Graves about 15 years ago. It was bad enough I took propanol for a year. I was told it was in remission. I could go on.

I would suggest being tested for autoimmune issues, and I hope this has helped.

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As a nurse I’m alarmed by the weight loss which can be clinically significant for cancer! You need to see your primary physician right away and he will refer you to a GI Specialist as the itching can be related to a build up of bilirubin. Is the itching localized to scalp or elsewhere? If localized hopefully not a GI cancer and just an autoimmune reaction. But you need to clearly be evaluated for the weight loss.

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You've mentioned food elimination but have you had the 5 Day Extended Patch Test? If not Google this test. I've had the True Test Patch Test twice and learned of over a dozen contact allergens I need to eliminate for life. This is not a food test, or the simple 30 minute environmental patch test. It takes 5 full days with patches placed over the entire back torso for 5 days. It's expensive, over $1,500, but most medical plans and Medicare covers this test.
Like you I have dealt with several autoimmune issues. Eczema (3 different types) and Chronic Lymphocytic Leukemia, CLL. Since patch testing and following the yeast elimination plan, I will get to, all forms of eczema have been in remission for 5 years and my CLL disappeared without treatment over 15 years ago without explanation or any treatment or change of diet or contacts.
Many mentioned Candida. If you haven't already read The Yeast Connection Handbook, by Dr. Crook, MD do so. It's short and simple and can buy a used copy cheaply. I not only eliminated dozens of my positive contact allergens from either contacting me or off gassing into me but followed the Crook diet plan diligently. No more corticosteroid shots. No more sleep deprivation from the maddening itching always more noticeable and acute at night.
A note on off gassing of allergens, one of my allergens is to memory foam because of an element in rubber, Mercaptobenzothiazole, MBT, which is used to accelerate the blending of materials, like in elastics and memory foam. Memory foam off gasses this element. I had purchased a mattress containing memory foam about 6 months earlier. It had a dust mite cover and a heavy cotton mattress pad. Previously I had this internal and external itching for a few years, but it exploded after sleeping on this mattress for a few months. Thank goodness for this 5 Day Test or I would never have been able to identify part of the reason for my itching, burning and taser like stinging. That said, I also had to detox my body of yeast. Mind you, I did not have any classic female yeast symptoms. I had to kill off the yeast colonies residing in my colon, which we all have. These colonies create waste which passes though our intestinal linings and into our blood stream and raise our histamines. The Dr. Crook book explains, in layman's terms why this happens.

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@gardeningjunkie

You've mentioned food elimination but have you had the 5 Day Extended Patch Test? If not Google this test. I've had the True Test Patch Test twice and learned of over a dozen contact allergens I need to eliminate for life. This is not a food test, or the simple 30 minute environmental patch test. It takes 5 full days with patches placed over the entire back torso for 5 days. It's expensive, over $1,500, but most medical plans and Medicare covers this test.
Like you I have dealt with several autoimmune issues. Eczema (3 different types) and Chronic Lymphocytic Leukemia, CLL. Since patch testing and following the yeast elimination plan, I will get to, all forms of eczema have been in remission for 5 years and my CLL disappeared without treatment over 15 years ago without explanation or any treatment or change of diet or contacts.
Many mentioned Candida. If you haven't already read The Yeast Connection Handbook, by Dr. Crook, MD do so. It's short and simple and can buy a used copy cheaply. I not only eliminated dozens of my positive contact allergens from either contacting me or off gassing into me but followed the Crook diet plan diligently. No more corticosteroid shots. No more sleep deprivation from the maddening itching always more noticeable and acute at night.
A note on off gassing of allergens, one of my allergens is to memory foam because of an element in rubber, Mercaptobenzothiazole, MBT, which is used to accelerate the blending of materials, like in elastics and memory foam. Memory foam off gasses this element. I had purchased a mattress containing memory foam about 6 months earlier. It had a dust mite cover and a heavy cotton mattress pad. Previously I had this internal and external itching for a few years, but it exploded after sleeping on this mattress for a few months. Thank goodness for this 5 Day Test or I would never have been able to identify part of the reason for my itching, burning and taser like stinging. That said, I also had to detox my body of yeast. Mind you, I did not have any classic female yeast symptoms. I had to kill off the yeast colonies residing in my colon, which we all have. These colonies create waste which passes though our intestinal linings and into our blood stream and raise our histamines. The Dr. Crook book explains, in layman's terms why this happens.

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Many, many thanks for your email. I plan to jump all over the 5 Day Extended Patch Test and the book by Dr Crook. Will let you know how it comes out.

F. Bernard Forand
fbforand@gmail.com
860-918-1118

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@busyyaya

As a nurse I’m alarmed by the weight loss which can be clinically significant for cancer! You need to see your primary physician right away and he will refer you to a GI Specialist as the itching can be related to a build up of bilirubin. Is the itching localized to scalp or elsewhere? If localized hopefully not a GI cancer and just an autoimmune reaction. But you need to clearly be evaluated for the weight loss.

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Thanks very much for your comments. The itching is mostly located in the scalp and the forehead. I will follow up as you recommended.

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@sharing

Hello, I feel for you. I’m a 77 year age woman. I was diagnosed with SLE about 4 or 5 years ago, plus Hashimoto’s. Men, as well as women can have SLE; so have you been tested? The various symptoms could very well be SLE as I experience them as well. For the never understood symptoms I found that Zyrtec almost always cures the itch at that time. I, too, was athletic and suddenly I became weak. At times I know I should eat but I’m not hungry. I eat no meats. Only seafood as in 1993 it was determined I was allergic to all meat, including eggs. My horrible rashes were on my legs ultimately after huge red itchy areas were diagnosed as “eczema” meaning, nobody knows what is causing it and always was placed on prednisone or antibiotics and given a steroid topical cream. Which did not help. I’ve scars from scratching so much. But the leg rash went away after the diagnoses and I can no longer have gluten, dairy, wheat, no cruciferous vegetables or anything from the nightshade family. I’m sure I’m forgetting something.
After being diagnosed, I told my doctor to just treat my symptoms as had been done by various doctors in the past.
Nobody believed I had SLE as no rash on my face. My cousin has discoid lupus. Her face looked like my legs with the horrible itching, etc. I believe I have had or have sjorgen (everything is very dry). I’ve had some rare eye issues as well that were autoimmune related and have always been told all these may come back. I had Graves about 15 years ago. It was bad enough I took propanol for a year. I was told it was in remission. I could go on.

I would suggest being tested for autoimmune issues, and I hope this has helped.

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Thanks very much for your recommendations. I will follow up with my practitioners as you suggested.

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I want to mention I had testing for neuropathy. Nothing was ever found.

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