Chronic GVHD ~ Let’s talk about it!

Being that effervescent makes me wonder if it’s just gas! Hahahaha!

Athenalee, you’re the knowledgeable one! Thank you for all the input you give for the health and well-being of fellow transplant patients.
Your transplant culinary arts zoom with @estrada53 sounds like a really cool idea! I’m happy to see so many people signing up because I think it will be very valuable and informative. I’m hoping to possibly join you all at some point but for now the timing will be an issue and I’d miss the meetings.
But wow, good luck! It will be fun for everyone to actually hear and see each other! A fantastic bonding experience too!

Ha! A fountain of information you are Lori…a naturally sparkling, bubbly fountain that is!

I’m having stone-aged internet issues this week which is really impeding my responses and testing my patience! LOL You posed a really great question so I’m happy to see @athenalee pop in with answers because I was going to tag her into this conversation! She’s a guru when it comes to health and well-being of our bodies through foods in our diets!

A while back I discussed this with my transplant team. What can be done to avoid GvHD of the liver (and in general) The only GvHD I have right now is a slight indication of “potential” liver issues because of minor elevations in my liver function numbers, similar to yours.
A lot of our GvHD is simply hit and miss. It’s whatever our immune system decides needs fixing and starts these ‘little fires’ in our bodies that have to be stomped out with prednisone or other anti inflammatory meds. So whatever we can do to avoid inflammation is one proactive thing we can do to avoid getting those new cells all riled up…such as avoiding any illness, avoiding sun, toxins, etc.

There are some research discussions regarding Choline in the diet. It’s being studied for potential issues within the gut biome which can cause inflammation, which in turn may cause GvHD. But it’s not proven and most of these foods on the Choline list are more important to our overall health than any speculation.
They include eggs, fish, beef, soybeans, wheat germ, chicken, turkey, cruciferous veggies, almonds, dried beans, cottage cheese…you get the picture!
https://gvhdhub.com/medical-information/the-effect-of-choline-rich-diet-on-gvhd.
So, the talk with my team focused more on what foods are GOOD for the liver rather than avoiding the Choline rich foods. And because some of the good foods contain choline, it’s really a matter of keeping a healthy body through diet, exercise and water intake.

There are liver specific foods which help promote the health of the organ.

Eating the Rainbow ~ fresh veggies and fruit filled with antioxidants
Oatmeal
Broccoli
Coffee
Green Tea
Water
Almonds-nuts
Spinach
Blueberries
Herbs & spices

AVOID
Fried foods
Too much sugar
Alcoholic beverages
Unhealthy snacks
Acetaminophen (on a daily basis)
https://liverfoundation.org/for-patients/about-the-liver/health-wellness/nutrition/

You’re doing exactly the same as I am with your diet and lifestyle. We take care of ourselves with wise choices and hope for the best! Sometimes there’s just no rhyme or reason to GvHD.
Just as before AML, I had lived every day trying to avoid any cancers by eating super healthy, avoiding toxins, exercising, didn’t smoke, limited wine, etc…boom! Still cut me off at the knees. There was no reason for it other than a chance mutation. A lesson to live daily to our fullest. ☺️

Thank you for all this information! Fortunately, I have been avoiding those “bad foods” and beverages and getting lots of exercise, so hopefully that will minimize the GVHD.

I’m having stone-aged internet issues this week which is really impeding my responses and testing my patience! LOL You posed a really great question so I’m happy to see @athenalee pop in with answers because I was going to tag her into this conversation! She’s a guru when it comes to health and well-being of our bodies through foods in our diets!

A while back I discussed this with my transplant team. What can be done to avoid GvHD of the liver (and in general) The only GvHD I have right now is a slight indication of “potential” liver issues because of minor elevations in my liver function numbers, similar to yours.
A lot of our GvHD is simply hit and miss. It’s whatever our immune system decides needs fixing and starts these ‘little fires’ in our bodies that have to be stomped out with prednisone or other anti inflammatory meds. So whatever we can do to avoid inflammation is one proactive thing we can do to avoid getting those new cells all riled up…such as avoiding any illness, avoiding sun, toxins, etc.

There are some research discussions regarding Choline in the diet. It’s being studied for potential issues within the gut biome which can cause inflammation, which in turn may cause GvHD. But it’s not proven and most of these foods on the Choline list are more important to our overall health than any speculation.
They include eggs, fish, beef, soybeans, wheat germ, chicken, turkey, cruciferous veggies, almonds, dried beans, cottage cheese…you get the picture!
https://gvhdhub.com/medical-information/the-effect-of-choline-rich-diet-on-gvhd.
So, the talk with my team focused more on what foods are GOOD for the liver rather than avoiding the Choline rich foods. And because some of the good foods contain choline, it’s really a matter of keeping a healthy body through diet, exercise and water intake.

There are liver specific foods which help promote the health of the organ.

Eating the Rainbow ~ fresh veggies and fruit filled with antioxidants
Oatmeal
Broccoli
Coffee
Green Tea
Water
Almonds-nuts
Spinach
Blueberries
Herbs & spices

AVOID
Fried foods
Too much sugar
Alcoholic beverages
Unhealthy snacks
Acetaminophen (on a daily basis)
https://liverfoundation.org/for-patients/about-the-liver/health-wellness/nutrition/

My skin GVHD flaired up after my first Covid vaccination in January. I don’t think it’s related to sun exposure in my case, since I am rarely outside in the sun, even though I live in Arizona. I have scleroderma on my stomach, legs and arms. Hoping to start on Jakafi in two weeks. I understand that medication works well for skin GVHD most of the time. If that doesn’t work, my doctor will put me on Rezurock.

Thank you for this information about what you’ve discovered between the diet and GvHD! I really couldn’t correlate anything either from my diet. I try to do everything right. Though if I do cheat and have some Sun Chips, I find the salt irritates my tongue which never happened before.
But the other GvHD issues are so capricious, they’re obviously left to the whims of our new immune systems.
In a previous post you mentioned recently having scleroderma which is new for you. Do you mind sharing where this is occurring? Does it have anything to do with sun exposure?

I’m 2 weeks from being totally off Tacro and then my other meds so I’m concerned that I’ve been protected from some GvHD issues that might arise now that I’m going to be off. I’m always cautious in the sun but am curious as to skin issues and how they begin.

I have had GVHD off and on for the last five years. I was following varied diets during this time, including vegetarian and then vegan. I don’t see a correlation between diet and GVHD flair ups. We have a new immune system that is doing its own thing. No rhyme or reason most of the time. I personally focus on healthy diet and use whatever meds my oncologist prescribed for GVHD.