Cerebellar stroke experience, treatment, recovery - want to dialogue

I suffered a Cerebellar Stroke in Dec 2015 in my 40s and am interested in connecting with other cerebellar stroke survivors to share our experiences, testing/therapy options, struggles on the path to recovery.

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@avmcbellar, thank you for your quick and kind reply. I hope you continue to persevere and your recovery progresses. My husband’s PCP’s nurse summarized his issues as a decline in executive function. He expresses unprovoked anger at me, has a conversational style that is a monologue, is occasionally giddy, and shows much less empathy for hurting people than before the stroke. So, in that sense, the issue is affect rather than cognition. From what I’ve read online, there is mention of a drug therapy that is at best speculative. The only other option is a psychologist. But, my husband doesn’t see a problem and hasn’t listened to input from me or his siblings. I’m hoping someone here may have insight and experience, or be aware of emerging treatments and/or the best people in this area.

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@cerebellarstrokespouse I am so sorry for all you and husband are going through. It is common with cerebral stroke victims to have personality changes. Perhaps seek an evaluation from a speech therapist or occupational therapist. If they cannot offer help with exercises they may be able to direct you to a professional who can. I don’t know if a doctor using neuroplasticity can offer assistance. You may want to research neuroplasticity in your area. I believe that a psychiatrist will treat with drug therapy. Use extra caution when experimenting with drugs.

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Hi @cerebellarstrokespouse I have had an AVM involving the cerebellum, the same part of the brain when one drinks so my balance is affected. I get dizzy with motion sickness. I have no cognitive deficits only physical. Because there are not many survivors, much is unknown. The doctors have no definitive treatment. So basically I have been learning on my own by trial and error for the last 4 years. Improvements are possible. Recovery is difficult but a very slow process. Each case is different. It seems your husband has made an amazing physical recovery. Perhaps there is therapy available to help cognitively. Would a speech therapist help with that? I would research where to get cognitive help then tell your doctor to write the order for your husband to get an evaluation. I hope this helps with your search to find answers. I wish you both well.

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@avmcbellar, thank you for your quick and kind reply. I hope you continue to persevere and your recovery progresses. My husband’s PCP’s nurse summarized his issues as a decline in executive function. He expresses unprovoked anger at me, has a conversational style that is a monologue, is occasionally giddy, and shows much less empathy for hurting people than before the stroke. So, in that sense, the issue is affect rather than cognition. From what I’ve read online, there is mention of a drug therapy that is at best speculative. The only other option is a psychologist. But, my husband doesn’t see a problem and hasn’t listened to input from me or his siblings. I’m hoping someone here may have insight and experience, or be aware of emerging treatments and/or the best people in this area.

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Hi @cerebellarstrokespouse I have had an AVM involving the cerebellum, the same part of the brain when one drinks so my balance is affected. I get dizzy with motion sickness. I have no cognitive deficits only physical. Because there are not many survivors, much is unknown. The doctors have no definitive treatment. So basically I have been learning on my own by trial and error for the last 4 years. Improvements are possible. Recovery is difficult but a very slow process. Each case is different. It seems your husband has made an amazing physical recovery. Perhaps there is therapy available to help cognitively. Would a speech therapist help with that? I would research where to get cognitive help then tell your doctor to write the order for your husband to get an evaluation. I hope this helps with your search to find answers. I wish you both well.

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On Feb 21, my husband had a cerebellar stroke (posterior lobe, ischemic with a hemorrhagic conversion and considerable brain swelling).

All things considered, his physical recovery has been remarkable. For example, he is cycling 30 miles a day. But, there are cognitive deficits that his primary care physician says are indicative of Cerebellar Cognitive Affective Syndrome.

Has anyone had experience with this? Is continued healing possible at this point? From what I’ve read online, there don’t seem to be any available treatments. Is that correct?

Thanks in advance for any input others may have!

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Thank y'all for sharing. Very informative sharing.

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Hi @strokesurvivordynamo, I am wondering how you are doing and what type of treatments you underwent recently, if any. I had a cerebellar aneurism 4 years ago and am still struggling to find answers for my recovery which has been a long slow progress so far. My aneurism also brought on my neuropathy as a result of one of my surgeries. I hope you are doing well in dealing with your stroke.

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Hello!! I'm A Stroke Survivor Too. I Suffered My Stroke During A 6 cm Tumor Removal In 2002 How R U Doing??

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@acoylenp01 No, I have not tried vestibular therapy. I am seeing my PCP this Monday and planning to ask. I tried finding an EMT md who has the experience but could not find anyone nearby. Will let you know. I have had physical therapy in an outpatient and home health care setting. It helped me to progress from wheelchair to cane. I plan to have more home care PT to learn to ambulate outside my new home on uneven surfaces. Has any doctor recommended the vestibular therapy to you? While I was in the ICU no one mentioned anything to me. After a month, during my follow up check up with my neuro surgeon, he told me to do as much PT for walking as I could tolerate. I always have pushed myself to do the home tasks of cooking, cleaning, and laundry. I do get tired but plan my tasks with intermediate breaks. Just 5 months after my AVM rupture I was a volunteer tutor for a semester. I started doing the tutoring again and plan to be a substitute teacher.

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Hi @acoylenp01 It is a long road to recovery but I’m glad to hear you are determined to fight back. Having a positive attitude certainly helps. Yes, I had the same issues with dizziness and balance. My AVM ruptured in the cerebellum where 5 vessels were connected. I had 3 surgeries before my AVM was repaired. I too tried to find answers online but I couldn’t find any valuable information. Since my medical team had no answers I relied on myself to learn what worked for me by trial and error. At first I had no balance and needed someone with me at all times. I sat in the wheelchair for transportation. I was exhausted after 2 hours. My legs felt like lead. I tried to keep active with what little I could do physically. I gradually improved to a walker then cane. Now I can walk in the house without any device but need a cane outside for unleveled surfaces like the lawn and gravel. Be persistent with physical activity no matter how difficult the dizziness gets. It’s not easy. Along with sitting exercises, I try taking supplements. I do as much as I can tolerate. Let me know if you have any specific questions I can help you with. I did experience losing my taste. I became hypersensitive to the sweetness in foods. I had lost my appetite because all foods tasted overly sweet to me. The doctors had no idea why but after 3 years I recovered on my own. Good luck. I am glad to hear from you and remember I am happy to share what worked for me. I do not drive. With my husband’s support I continue to be positive to try different things.

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Thank you so much! Hearing these stories of recovery is the BEST medicine because as you point out, a positive attitude is the most important thing to hem facing this diagnosis- I appreciate very much your willingness to share your experiences and advice with me and I will definitely reach out - already have a question for you: have you tried vestibular therapy?
Thanks again ❤️

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Hi @acoylenp01 It is a long road to recovery but I’m glad to hear you are determined to fight back. Having a positive attitude certainly helps. Yes, I had the same issues with dizziness and balance. My AVM ruptured in the cerebellum where 5 vessels were connected. I had 3 surgeries before my AVM was repaired. I too tried to find answers online but I couldn’t find any valuable information. Since my medical team had no answers I relied on myself to learn what worked for me by trial and error. At first I had no balance and needed someone with me at all times. I sat in the wheelchair for transportation. I was exhausted after 2 hours. My legs felt like lead. I tried to keep active with what little I could do physically. I gradually improved to a walker then cane. Now I can walk in the house without any device but need a cane outside for unleveled surfaces like the lawn and gravel. Be persistent with physical activity no matter how difficult the dizziness gets. It’s not easy. Along with sitting exercises, I try taking supplements. I do as much as I can tolerate. Let me know if you have any specific questions I can help you with. I did experience losing my taste. I became hypersensitive to the sweetness in foods. I had lost my appetite because all foods tasted overly sweet to me. The doctors had no idea why but after 3 years I recovered on my own. Good luck. I am glad to hear from you and remember I am happy to share what worked for me. I do not drive. With my husband’s support I continue to be positive to try different things.

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If there is a perseverance award, you will win it!
Best wishes for good health🙏

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