CBD oil and depression/anxiety

Posted by lalyfa @lalyfa, Feb 24, 2018

I am curious to know if anyone has had success with CBD or Hemp oil helping with depression/anxiety? I’ve been reading a lot about it and am curious.
I’ve been reading about this and am very interested but would like thoughts/opinions from anyone who has actually tried it or knows someone who has. TIA

Thank you,
Laura

@gailb

@parus

Some people vape the CBD oil, which is legal everywhere. However, I don't like vaping or smoking anything as I've tried and it hurts my throat and lungs. I have the hunch that it's not good to put anything in my lungs. I smoked 2 packs of cigarettes a day for 17 years and quit cold turkey in 1982. Marijuana helped me quit cigarettes at the time, but I didn't smoke it often due to it being illegal at the time.

I put the CBD oil under my tongue and hold it there for about 30 seconds before swallowing it. It takes longer to have effect then, but it does work. For immediate mild effects, CBD Living Water works immediately.

You're right, insurance won't pay for anything connected to Cannabis. I'm surprised it doesn't pay for your thyroid med. Are you on Medicare? I am, and they pay for my Levothyroxin that I take for my thyroid. It's the generic for Synthroid. Also, perhaps you need an adjustment in the mcg. you are taking. I was being prescribed way too much for several years and had a lot of side effects. My new Endocrinologist cut it nearly in half and had me stop taking it completely for a week or two (can't remember how long). I was worried to learn that overdosing it can cause bone thinning! I don't need that at my age! I hope you get good information from the documentary.

Gail
Volunteer Mentor

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@gailb, @parus, What is sold as CBD oil in states where weed is legal is very different in the level of THC than what I can legally purchase in SC – zero THC. Am I off base in my research surrounding CBD oil? One thing is certain; legal/not legal, ingredients/lack of ingredients, how your dose it, etc…is all much more confusing than when I was a teenage neer-do-well!

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@gailb

@parus

Some people vape the CBD oil, which is legal everywhere. However, I don't like vaping or smoking anything as I've tried and it hurts my throat and lungs. I have the hunch that it's not good to put anything in my lungs. I smoked 2 packs of cigarettes a day for 17 years and quit cold turkey in 1982. Marijuana helped me quit cigarettes at the time, but I didn't smoke it often due to it being illegal at the time.

I put the CBD oil under my tongue and hold it there for about 30 seconds before swallowing it. It takes longer to have effect then, but it does work. For immediate mild effects, CBD Living Water works immediately.

You're right, insurance won't pay for anything connected to Cannabis. I'm surprised it doesn't pay for your thyroid med. Are you on Medicare? I am, and they pay for my Levothyroxin that I take for my thyroid. It's the generic for Synthroid. Also, perhaps you need an adjustment in the mcg. you are taking. I was being prescribed way too much for several years and had a lot of side effects. My new Endocrinologist cut it nearly in half and had me stop taking it completely for a week or two (can't remember how long). I was worried to learn that overdosing it can cause bone thinning! I don't need that at my age! I hope you get good information from the documentary.

Gail
Volunteer Mentor

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@gman007

I think it's OK that you are trying the CBD oil with no THC. It's certainly worth testing. My bottle of CBD indicated what they recommended as a single dose. I started at their recommendation and then increased the dose until I felt the resulting relaxation. I tried a higher dose but didn't like it, so I dropped back to the previous dose. My CBD comes with a pump spray which I spray under my tongue and hold there for 30 seconds. I use 8 sprays now. They recommended starting at 3 sprays.

You do have to experiment with the doses on your own. You could be more or less sensitive than me. Don't expect to feel the way you did when you were a teenager, it won't. You should feel less anxious and feel your muscles relax. I found I could breathe more easily and freely. I really hope you find relief with the CBD you purchased.

GailB
Volunteer Mentor

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@dbrown72

Has anyone tried CBD oil to quit smoking cigs? My boyfriend is trying to quit and thinks this would help

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@dbrown72

Welcome to the Mayo Connect community. I am a Volunteer Mentor and am not a medical professional so I don't provide diagnosis nor medical recommendations. I share my experience and other members and I will support you. We hope you will feel free to share issues you may not be comfortable sharing with family or friends.

To answer your question, I used marijuana to help me stop smoking many years ago. It was illegal at the time, but I was so anxious and shakey that I needed something. I was smoking 2 packs of cigarettes a day at the time I quit. There were no medications to help me quit as this was 1982. I wanted to quit so I could become a programmer in Silicon Valley and we couldn't smoke around the computers which were very large and kept enclosed in glass rooms with raised floors. There were special air systems to keep everything stable. Today we use laptop computers and tablets with more power than the big ones I worked with. My point is that I was highly internally motivated to quit. I had "quit" many times before this, but I felt different this time.

I had such heavy withdrawal symptoms that afterwards I said I would have put myself in the hospital if I had realized how bad I was going to feel. For at least 2 weeks I had shakes, sweating, nausea, bad mood, headaches, and anxiety. My hands would sweat so bad I couldn't hold an ink pen or pencil. I've never had my hands sweat before that or after that. I would get up from my desk and walk around the office building when my anxiety got too high. I took deep breaths to remind myself of the healthy life I was choosing. A friend finally recommended that I smoke some pot to help. I was not a drug user (too chicken to try any) but I finally agreed to try it. I smoked it in the evening so I wasn't high at work during the day. It really helped my anxiety, shaking and nausea, which helped me have a better attitude/mood.

I was able to stick to my cold turkey stop of smoking cigarettes because of the marijuana. I smoked marijuana whenever I thought I wanted a cigarette. At some point within 3 months I realized I no longer craved cigarettes, so I stopped smoking marijuana. I didn't want to trade one addiction for another. However, I never had a problem stopping marijuana cold turkey. I have most recently used CBD tincture orally to help me withdraw from Tramadol 50 mg that I was prescribed for pain from my back surgery. I was addicted to it, but using the CBD oil under my tongue a couple of times a day as I reduced my doses of Tramadol helped me to relax. I had a lot of anxiety withdrawing and the CBD really helped me. Now I use CBD orally for the occasional pain that Tylenol doesn't resolve.

@dbrown72, I hope this is helpful for you and your boyfriend. Please let us know how things go for him.

Gail
Volunteer Mentor

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@gailb

@parus

Some people vape the CBD oil, which is legal everywhere. However, I don't like vaping or smoking anything as I've tried and it hurts my throat and lungs. I have the hunch that it's not good to put anything in my lungs. I smoked 2 packs of cigarettes a day for 17 years and quit cold turkey in 1982. Marijuana helped me quit cigarettes at the time, but I didn't smoke it often due to it being illegal at the time.

I put the CBD oil under my tongue and hold it there for about 30 seconds before swallowing it. It takes longer to have effect then, but it does work. For immediate mild effects, CBD Living Water works immediately.

You're right, insurance won't pay for anything connected to Cannabis. I'm surprised it doesn't pay for your thyroid med. Are you on Medicare? I am, and they pay for my Levothyroxin that I take for my thyroid. It's the generic for Synthroid. Also, perhaps you need an adjustment in the mcg. you are taking. I was being prescribed way too much for several years and had a lot of side effects. My new Endocrinologist cut it nearly in half and had me stop taking it completely for a week or two (can't remember how long). I was worried to learn that overdosing it can cause bone thinning! I don't need that at my age! I hope you get good information from the documentary.

Gail
Volunteer Mentor

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Thank you @gailb. I realize that it may not be as much relief as if it did contain THC, but I will report back after having tried it. I am hopeful that our state legislature may move next year to expand use of medical cannabis as I know from experience that it would help me so much more that opioids with less long term damaging effects.

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@dbrown72

Has anyone tried CBD oil to quit smoking cigs? My boyfriend is trying to quit and thinks this would help

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Thank you. He already smokes weed too, LOL, I told him I doubt CBD oil would help him quit smoking those nasty cigs. Maybe it will help with his anxiety though

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For those who are interested in using CBD as a pain or anxiety reliever, here are two websites that provide excellent quality products and one has an extensive educational programs that are free. One series of the education programs helps each person determine their own dosage for their problems.

1. http://www.cbdlivingwater.org — has good products. I used the Living Water to help me withdraw from Tramadol.

2. https://mjstherapeutics.org — this is where I purchased my CBD Daily tincture. It's an excellent quality product and they have others you can order online.

3. https://healer.com/about-us/ educational programs. I need to take their education programs and determine the correct dosage for my arthritis and radiculopathy pain.

These are good sites with reliable products and information. I have tested these links now and they work.

Gail
Volunteer Mentor

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@gailb

@lalyfa

Welcome to Mayo Connect. I am a Volunteer Mentor and not a medical professional. As such I can offer the benefit of my personal experience, as can others on this site, but not medical diagnoses nor medical opinions. We strive to help each other with the understanding that we are all different and what works for me may not work for you. I have gotten so much good from participating in Mayo Connect that I love it.

Yes, I have used CBD tincture and CBD Living Water for anxiety. I haven't used it for depression as I already take an antidepressant. It doesn't seem to interfere with my Citalopram.

I decided to try CBD when I was withdrawing from Tramadol, a synthetic opiate I had been taking for pain (with 2 other medications) for over a year. As I began slowly reducing my use, I experienced a lot of anxiety and muscle tremors in my legs especially. I know that using a marijuana medication meant that my pain doctor would not prescribe for me again, but I was getting off the pain medications one by one anyway, so I don't care.

The CBD Living Water was my favorite as it just was like drinking bottled water and was immediately available in my system. Within a few minutes of drinking one serving, my anxiety began reducing. It was so benign that I thought perhaps it was just my own thoughts that were calming me down–my belief that it would help. So, I bought the CBD tincture as kind of a test to see if I reacted the same. The next time I was having withdrawal anxiety I used the CBD Tincture. I didn't realize at that time that it can take up to 2+ hours to have effect when you take the tincture, but that was actually good for my test purposes. My anxiety continued for another hour until slowly the tincture began taking effect. I decided then that the CBD Living Water worked best for my anxiety.

CBD Living Water is expensive at $5.00 per bottle with 2 servings. It has no flavor (the tincture had a sweet weird flavor I didn't like) and is easy to drink. I only used 4 bottles to help me through my withdrawal. I don't use it now, but I will if I have anxiety in the future. I am impressed with how helpful it was in my withdrawal. I think it would help in withdrawal from cigarettes too. I did that 34 years ago though.

Are you willing to share what you're anxiety is about? I had panic and anxiety attacks for years and used Ativan and later Lorazepam for them, especially when I had to fly in planes. About 6 years ago I started taking Citalopram antidepressant, and all my anxiety/panic attacks went away. I only had it again recently during my withdrawal process. I know my relief from anxiety is from the Citalopram. I even did 7 zip lines in Costa Rica a little over a year ago. My flights there, to Panama and back were anxiety free. That has been so incredible for me! I love traveling now.

Please let me know if you have questions,. I also hope others on Mayo Connect will let you know their experiences with CBD and Marijuana as medical alternative treatments.

Gail B
Volunteer Mentor

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Hi, I ve been taking cbd oil (0,03% THC) and it has been perfect then it helps me to have a good and profound sleep. My mood seem better and I am more relax than on anything before. I live in Ecuador, and need aproval from my family for my health decisions, specially then i am unemployed and need their financial support at this moment. I take zoloft and seroquel (for sleep), and autoinmune medications. I dont want to add more meds to my cocktail, so cbd is a perfect option. Sadly, the psychiatrist is very skeptical then he is really aware of all the cases he managed that take the marihuana for recreational purposes. So, he is reluctant to any form of marihuana and doesnt believe that there are isolate products. At the end, he agreed that if it really just have 0,04%thc I am free to take it. I need to prove that, and sent him the 3rd part lab tests for the specific brand and product i am taking and scientific information about cbd. He is looking for more scientific reliable information from wellknown sources as Mayo Clinic. I wrote to my reumathologist at Mayo Clinic and he answer me that he doesnt know that much about cbd but he will ask his colleagues at the complementary integrative department of Mayo C. The point is that a reliable source tell that cbd is safe to take. thats all I need. Wondering where can I find this sources. Thanks,
Lorena

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@lisalucier

Hi, all — as there has been a lot of discussion in this thread about using CBD oil and marijuana (prescribed or otherwise) 1) to control depression and anxiety or 2) to treat side effects of tapering off of antidepressants, we requested input from a Mayo Clinic pharmacist on the topic.

She recommended the following resource from the Minnesota Department of Health: http://www.health.state.mn.us/topics/cannabis/patients/patientinfosheet.pdf, which talks about warnings for using medical marijuana. In this info sheet you'll find sections about:
– Risks for use by children, adolescents, and young adults
– Risk for use by women who are pregnant or breastfeeding
– Risk of psychotic episodes and psychotic disease
– Risk of cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome
– Risks for use by persons with serious heart or liver disease
– Risk of dependence and addiction

The pharmacist also mentioned that one would assume risks to be greater when used without medical oversight (e.g., CBD oil, cannabis water, etc.) She indicated that it’s important to remember that this could be an addictive substance, so using it to “wean” off other addictive substances may just be trading one addiction for another.

The info sheet also includes information about:
– Driving, operating machinery, or doing work that could harm people when under the influence of medical cannabis
– Advice on starting low, going slow
– Keeping medications secure and in their original containers
– Sharing with or selling cannabis to others

I hope this helps with some of the questions people were asking.

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Thanks for this information. I am trying to show to my doctor that cbd oIL (0,03%thc) is not psycoactive and it's safe because of low thc. I can't find that information on the paper above. Where can I find a reliable source as Mayo Clinic that explains this. Thanks

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@lisalucier

Hi, all — as there has been a lot of discussion in this thread about using CBD oil and marijuana (prescribed or otherwise) 1) to control depression and anxiety or 2) to treat side effects of tapering off of antidepressants, we requested input from a Mayo Clinic pharmacist on the topic.

She recommended the following resource from the Minnesota Department of Health: http://www.health.state.mn.us/topics/cannabis/patients/patientinfosheet.pdf, which talks about warnings for using medical marijuana. In this info sheet you'll find sections about:
– Risks for use by children, adolescents, and young adults
– Risk for use by women who are pregnant or breastfeeding
– Risk of psychotic episodes and psychotic disease
– Risk of cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome
– Risks for use by persons with serious heart or liver disease
– Risk of dependence and addiction

The pharmacist also mentioned that one would assume risks to be greater when used without medical oversight (e.g., CBD oil, cannabis water, etc.) She indicated that it’s important to remember that this could be an addictive substance, so using it to “wean” off other addictive substances may just be trading one addiction for another.

The info sheet also includes information about:
– Driving, operating machinery, or doing work that could harm people when under the influence of medical cannabis
– Advice on starting low, going slow
– Keeping medications secure and in their original containers
– Sharing with or selling cannabis to others

I hope this helps with some of the questions people were asking.

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@lorena1egas

If you page down a little further, I have posted some links to websites with information about CBD/marijuana. I also think the CNN special programs by Dr. Sanjay Gupta, titled WEED are excellent. There are 4 specials the have produced, with the last one (about a month ago) having the most recent reliable medical information. It is called: WEED 4, and if you Google CNN, and search for the program, you can find it. Also, your doctor should know that CBD has been approved by the FDA as a treatment for seizures. My grandson has Tourettes, so that was my original motivation for finding out more about CBD. When school is out this month, he will try the CBD to see if it has a beneficial affect on his Tourettes. I hope you can find the reliable information for which you are searching. It is still difficult to find places that have been able to research marijuana enough to understand the things it is good for. However, if you watch the CNN presentation and recommend it to your doctor that may just be what you need. Good luck. Please keep us posted on your progress.

Gail
Volunteer Mentor

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@lisalucier

Hi, all — as there has been a lot of discussion in this thread about using CBD oil and marijuana (prescribed or otherwise) 1) to control depression and anxiety or 2) to treat side effects of tapering off of antidepressants, we requested input from a Mayo Clinic pharmacist on the topic.

She recommended the following resource from the Minnesota Department of Health: http://www.health.state.mn.us/topics/cannabis/patients/patientinfosheet.pdf, which talks about warnings for using medical marijuana. In this info sheet you'll find sections about:
– Risks for use by children, adolescents, and young adults
– Risk for use by women who are pregnant or breastfeeding
– Risk of psychotic episodes and psychotic disease
– Risk of cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome
– Risks for use by persons with serious heart or liver disease
– Risk of dependence and addiction

The pharmacist also mentioned that one would assume risks to be greater when used without medical oversight (e.g., CBD oil, cannabis water, etc.) She indicated that it’s important to remember that this could be an addictive substance, so using it to “wean” off other addictive substances may just be trading one addiction for another.

The info sheet also includes information about:
– Driving, operating machinery, or doing work that could harm people when under the influence of medical cannabis
– Advice on starting low, going slow
– Keeping medications secure and in their original containers
– Sharing with or selling cannabis to others

I hope this helps with some of the questions people were asking.

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Hi, thanks for the answer. I've sent him the links on this thread. I think the most relevant is the approval of cbd for seizures. I'll search for that. If neurologists use it he maybe will understand.

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@lisalucier

Hi, all — as there has been a lot of discussion in this thread about using CBD oil and marijuana (prescribed or otherwise) 1) to control depression and anxiety or 2) to treat side effects of tapering off of antidepressants, we requested input from a Mayo Clinic pharmacist on the topic.

She recommended the following resource from the Minnesota Department of Health: http://www.health.state.mn.us/topics/cannabis/patients/patientinfosheet.pdf, which talks about warnings for using medical marijuana. In this info sheet you'll find sections about:
– Risks for use by children, adolescents, and young adults
– Risk for use by women who are pregnant or breastfeeding
– Risk of psychotic episodes and psychotic disease
– Risk of cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome
– Risks for use by persons with serious heart or liver disease
– Risk of dependence and addiction

The pharmacist also mentioned that one would assume risks to be greater when used without medical oversight (e.g., CBD oil, cannabis water, etc.) She indicated that it’s important to remember that this could be an addictive substance, so using it to “wean” off other addictive substances may just be trading one addiction for another.

The info sheet also includes information about:
– Driving, operating machinery, or doing work that could harm people when under the influence of medical cannabis
– Advice on starting low, going slow
– Keeping medications secure and in their original containers
– Sharing with or selling cannabis to others

I hope this helps with some of the questions people were asking.

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Hi @lorena1egas, Here is some information that may help you. It is found in a book I borrowed from my library. It states that CBD does not have psychoactive effects and actually counteracts THC's psychoactive effects. Hope this helps.

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i am interested in comments re CBD for depression or anxiety also. i live in a state where it's legal so i did buy some cookies with that ingredient. it did relax me but i can't evaluate it other than that. i haven't read the research which i'm sure is out there.

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LADIES,
I GOT THIS IN MY INBOX.
THIS IN NO WAY IS MEDICAL ADVICE, JUST AN FYI.
GUYS, YOU MAY WANT TO READ THIS, TOO!
https://www.everydayhealth.com/depression-pictures/different-types-of-depression.aspx
Ronnie (GRANDMAr)

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@georgette12

i am interested in comments re CBD for depression or anxiety also. i live in a state where it's legal so i did buy some cookies with that ingredient. it did relax me but i can't evaluate it other than that. i haven't read the research which i'm sure is out there.

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@georgette12

Since you live in a state where CBD is legal, I recommend that you contact your physician or psychologist about using it for depression. I know that marijuana can be bought as an edible, but I'm not aware of CBD edibles. I know that marijuana edibles are extremely potent and should be used with caution about getting too much. As I remember, you've had longer term depression, so I think you need to ask your doctor about using CBD or marijuana for it. It may not be helpful for you.

I have used CBD for the anxiety that comes from withdrawing from opioids, and it was helpful. I've not used it for generalized social anxiety and I'm not sure how effective it would be for that. A few comments up I posted 3 links to information about both CBD and marijuana. In addition, you may want to watch the CNN Special on WEED, with Dr, Sanjay Gupta. There are 4 of these documentaries, but I think the 4th and most recent one gives the best information.

It's good to have you back in the community Georgette.

GailB
Volunteer Mentor

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Hi all,
With the growing number of posts referring to CBD oil (cannabidiol) and how to use it, I thought I would post a couple of recent articles to help with your research. According to this article by NPR, "By one estimate, the CBD industry has doubled in size over the last two years, and is now worth $200 million. But with this popularity the hype may have gotten ahead of the science."

While there is promising evidence that CBD may help anxiety, the jury is still out. Here are some articles to help you when discussing with your health providers or considering what you need to know when purchasing any unregulated substance:
– Does CBD Really Work For Anxiety? (HuffPost) https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/does-cbd-work-for-anxiety_us_5af4924ce4b00d7e4c18a6ac
– Anxiety Relief Without The High? New Studies On CBD, A Cannabis Extract (NPR) https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2018/04/23/604307015/anxiety-relief-without-the-high-new-studies-on-cbd-a-cannabis-extract

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