CBD Daily Spray and blood thinners

Posted by Betty @hazelnut, Feb 21, 2019

A friend told me that CBD Daily has been a miracle topical pain reliever for her back and knees. I ordered the item and this particular CBD does not contain any THC so I was assuming that it is safe to use being on Xarelto ( blood thinner) and high pressure meds. I have steroid injections but wanted to try this after reading so many positive comments from the users. The spray can be purchased on Ebay and the cheapest place to buy was on Walmart. I called the pharmacist and she said that I could not use the spray because of the blood thinner. Ugh ! I am waiting for a call from the cardiologist and hoping for a different opinion and the okay to try it. Has anyone tried this item that is on blood thinners?

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Just saw my cardiologist last week. I am on Eloquis. He was totally ok with taking CBD oil for sleeping problems...Just the lowest dose of TCH that is available.

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I had pain in my knee (was using a walker for a while) and the doctor wanted me to have a knee replacement. When I went to my heart doctor he said that, since I have aFib and am on Eliquis that he would rather me not do that unless the pain got really bad. I have always exercised (by bike riding and walking) and missed that. Since my health insurance plan covers a gym membership I joined the local YMCA (free). I still can't bike but I have found that the elliptical machine doesn't seem to hurt my knees. I am hoping that I will build up the muscles around my knees and the pain will go away. So far it does seem to help since now I can walk around the grocery store without much pain. I have been going to the Y three times a week and spending about 20 minutes on the elliptical machine each time. I am still very stiff when I first get up in the morning but find that after moving some it gets a lot better. I have also found that some shoes feel better than others. For me, it was the ones with low arch supports. For you it might be different. You might want to go to a doctor and find our which works for you. She then could get you the correct inserts.

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Good for you being so proactive and going to the gym. I have problem knees and the physiotherapist said to either walk or swim. I do walk on my treadmill most days. But I no longer go to the gym...although maybe I should go swimming in the gym pool...
Taking Turmeric with a few grounds of pepper in the drink every day, really helps me get over stiffness and diminishes pain.
I have been getting a Synvisc shot every 6 - 8 months and it is safe unlike cortisone. It is gel that cushions the knew. It costs several hundred dollars a shot but...when it's for one's health, that is fine.
If you are on statins and let's face it, Big Pharma has most of us on them...(I feel a rant coming on), that could be causing issues with muscle wasting and weakness and joints. NO ONE at retirement age, unless he or she has had a heart attack in his or her forties, should be on statins. Statins are now being shown NOT to be heart protective and just not worth the terrible side effects. And they not only cause problems with muscles but also the liver and memory. No thank you!
Don't take my word for it. Always check these things out...with sources that are not subsidized by Big Pharma, of course. Google something like 'dangers of statins' and look for credible sources of research.

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@afrobin

Good for you being so proactive and going to the gym. I have problem knees and the physiotherapist said to either walk or swim. I do walk on my treadmill most days. But I no longer go to the gym...although maybe I should go swimming in the gym pool...
Taking Turmeric with a few grounds of pepper in the drink every day, really helps me get over stiffness and diminishes pain.
I have been getting a Synvisc shot every 6 - 8 months and it is safe unlike cortisone. It is gel that cushions the knew. It costs several hundred dollars a shot but...when it's for one's health, that is fine.
If you are on statins and let's face it, Big Pharma has most of us on them...(I feel a rant coming on), that could be causing issues with muscle wasting and weakness and joints. NO ONE at retirement age, unless he or she has had a heart attack in his or her forties, should be on statins. Statins are now being shown NOT to be heart protective and just not worth the terrible side effects. And they not only cause problems with muscles but also the liver and memory. No thank you!
Don't take my word for it. Always check these things out...with sources that are not subsidized by Big Pharma, of course. Google something like 'dangers of statins' and look for credible sources of research.

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@afrobin, thank you for curbing your rant. There are certainly cases where pharmaceutical companies warrant close scrutiny. Additionally, there is much we can do for our health by making wise lifestyle choices such as exercise, diet, good sleep habits, not smoking, etc. In some situations, healthy lifestyle choices can even lead to people being able to reduce or eliminate some medications.

But I must stress that some medications for some people are absolutely warranted and keep people alive. We can't vilify all medications or all producers of medicine. For some people, statins may be the right option. You're absolutely right that research and the literature is constantly being updated. Every person should do their own due diligence, read recent and credible sources of information, AND discuss options with their care provider.

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@hazelnut

Afternoon Justin. The pharmacist said that although it is topical it is likely some of the spray will get into the blood stream and could increase the effect of the blood thinner. I called the cardiologist yesterday for test results from Tuesday and also about using the CBD spray. No response yet. I have a surgeon that said I could stop taking blood thinners......then the one cardiologist said , NO ! I have to stay on blood thinners the rest of my life.....then the A-fib cardiologist specialist said that maybe in a year I can stop the Xarelto . Three doctors, three different opinions. Same confusing opinions regarding hip surgery. The one cardiologist said go enjoy life and get that hip fixed. The orthopedic surgeon said I was not a good candidate for surgery. One doctor said I had Lupus, another doctor said it's rosacea. I see an rheumatologist this Thursday to see what she has to say. I am so disgusted with the difference of opinions .These Golden Years are not what I expected. Next month I am going to a seminar regarding stem cell for the hip, that should be interesting .

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I hear you on the golden years are not what I thought they were going to be. I have chronic pain, degenerative scoliosis, and now pain in my knee. I asked my pain management doctor about CBC salve for my knee pain. She said ok as long as I let her know the ingredients in the salve. I, too, am on Xarelto lifelong after 2 pulmonary emboli. I didn’t even think to let my cardiologist know. The jury is still out on CBD oil. I’m going to research this and see.

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Hi! Like you, I had plans to sail into my Golden Years taking NO medications and being active and fully engaged in life...into my nineties. Unfortunately at age 70 that is not the case. But I am trying. I do take a diuretic for BP. Of course, medications are often necessary when lifestyle changes have been tried such as weight loss in my case as well as getting more exercise, reducing salt etc...
I had such pain in my knee especially going down stairs so I went to see a specialist who said there is little cushioning in the joint and it is headed towards total bone on bone...which means a knee replacement. O happy day! In the meantime, instead of a cortisone shot (cortisone not being good for the body), I have been given Synvisc shots into the knee that like cortisone, work for 6 months or longer. It is expensive but it's more natural...some kind of gel that cushions the joint inside. And most importantly the pain is gone immediately or within a day or two...and that means I can walk for extended periods. If your joint is getting to the bone on bone stage and there is arthritis in it as well, Synvisc could be your answer. I don't think a salve is going to fix that. Good luck!

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@colleenyoung

@afrobin, thank you for curbing your rant. There are certainly cases where pharmaceutical companies warrant close scrutiny. Additionally, there is much we can do for our health by making wise lifestyle choices such as exercise, diet, good sleep habits, not smoking, etc. In some situations, healthy lifestyle choices can even lead to people being able to reduce or eliminate some medications.

But I must stress that some medications for some people are absolutely warranted and keep people alive. We can't vilify all medications or all producers of medicine. For some people, statins may be the right option. You're absolutely right that research and the literature is constantly being updated. Every person should do their own due diligence, read recent and credible sources of information, AND discuss options with their care provider.

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Hello Colleen, I agree. Medication is certainly necessary when lifestyle changes either don't work, are not complied with (as weight loss in my own case) or are not relevant for a particular condition.
So that it did not seem like MY opinion or one without references, I would like to have included a link to an amazing documentary of leading Canadian doctors and researchers in the field of cholesterol but it seems that Americans can't gain access to it on our government TV site, The Fifth Estate. In the documentary the experts state that only a man in his forties who has already had a heart attack should be on statins. And definitely not the elderly. It is fact and stated even on your Mayo clinic and Harvard University's Medical sites that side effects of statins are memory loss, joint pain, muscle weakness, often progression to diabetes and liver damage.
Doctors are unfortunately under the thumb of Big Pharma and woe betide any doctor who bucks the system. If he or she were to dissuade a patient from taking a statin...and then that person happened to have a heart attack, his career could be ruined...with the help of Big Pharma and the media.

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@hazelnut

Hello ....are those shots you get covered by insurance? I was using turmeric but had to stop using it because of the Xarelto. Also, had to stop drinking cranberry juice or taking any cranberry pills. I won't have any more steroid shots since the last one effected my right foot where the left side is numb all the time. Although it's my hip the pain is in my knee and down my leg and also the groin. That's probably the fibromyalgia though. The constant backache is from my meds. These Golden Years are not the happiest ! 🙁 Thank you for your response and hoping you have less pain and happy days.

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Betty, I'm having the same experience after two recent steroid injections in my spine. No relief for my back, but now I have pain in my hip, down my right leg and in my groin. I have some arthritis in right hip, but nothing like what I'm having now. I can't even turn my leg without it hurting very badly. I cannot take turmeric because I'm on Xarelto. Any suggestions?

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@bbeebe1943

Betty, I'm having the same experience after two recent steroid injections in my spine. No relief for my back, but now I have pain in my hip, down my right leg and in my groin. I have some arthritis in right hip, but nothing like what I'm having now. I can't even turn my leg without it hurting very badly. I cannot take turmeric because I'm on Xarelto. Any suggestions?

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@bbeebe1943. I had a steoid injection for my hip bursitis. It really didn't do much for me either. My back and leg hurt too, but I guess it's because of my spinal stenosis, never even thought of a connection. My injection was on my thigh. My orthopedic doctor would not give me another injection. I'm on Xeralto too, I can't take Advil, but I'm very tempted to take an Aleve, just for one day because I have a knot at my back that won't go away for 5 days already. I cannot do the exercises my PT wants me to do. I'm going to try some grated ginger in my green tea. Tylenol just doesn't do the job.

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my name is Bonnie - I also have stenosis and sciatica...but my right leg got so much worse (I cry sometimes) since I had the 2nd injection. I'm going back to my primary care doctor this coming week. The pain management guy wanted me to consult a back surgeon, but my PCP wants to see me before I do anything else. The pain doctor gave me Tylenol with an opioid, but I don't want to be taking those for long. I do some PT stretches daily...have to be careful with my right leg & hip. It's not as painful when I first get up but by the end of the day, it can get very bad. Thanks for responding.

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