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Cannot die in hospital even if you beg to.

Posted by slkanowitz @slkanowitz, May 11 6:37am

I recently went to hospital by ambulance because of intractable 10 level pain and I have had so many severe illnesses I had just had it with life and wanted to die. I’m DNR status. I begged everyone to let me go but they wouldn’t and ended up overdosing me on opioids for the pain to point I saw the tunnel of light but couldn’t go through it. They reversed the opioids with Narcan. The hospital staff determined my destiny and here I am. It’s their job to keep everyone alive no matter what you want or how terrible your quality of life will be. I guess my work here on earth is not done yet. Just consider this information if you’re ever in this situation as you will have no control of your fate in a hospital. I have seen this happen to others and it is sad we can’t make these choices for ourselves. Who knows what outcome is best. Perhaps God? Just want to plant seeds for thought for anyone in a similar situation.

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kayraymat | @kayraymat | May 20 9:58am

I have my yearly check up soon & now I will look into
whether I have both a living will & a DNR, & a ACD. Also, since my
husband just died there are probably other changes to be made.
Thanks, Rashida. K

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rashida | @rashida | May 20 11:43am
In reply to @gravity3 "Are you referring to hospice? If so, hospice is end of life care meaning that hospice..." + (show)
@gravity3

Are you referring to hospice? If so, hospice is end of life care meaning that hospice does not provide curative procedures. If a hospice patient decides they want to pursue something curative they need to leave the care of hospice but can come back to hospice care later as long as they still meet the admission criteria.

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@gravity3 no, I am talking about a patient in a hospital with a broken hip who is left to die without food and hydration because the doctors decide the patient won’t survive the surgery. So the alternate was to let the patient die of starvation. Patient did not make that decision - doctors told family that is what they should do and family went along with it, making this decision for the patient. Patient was not consulted.

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maryruth7 | @maryruth7 | May 20 12:39pm

We can make those life choices today, its called a living will, you let it be known when you are unable to speak for yourself do not resuscitate.

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billmason | @billmason | May 22 10:27am
In reply to @gravity3 "If a terminally ill person chooses to die by refusing food and water that is their..." + (show)
@gravity3

If a terminally ill person chooses to die by refusing food and water that is their choice. A feeding tube would be abusive. If you are a hospice patient a feeding tube is not allowed. It is considered curative and that is not the mission of hospice.

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After experiencing hospice in my little town with multiple "patients “. Haha.
My decision is that I will die alone on the filthy cold tile floor of a public restroom before I consider hospice!

Long story short.

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gravity3 | @gravity3 | May 22 1:14pm
In reply to @billmason "After experiencing hospice in my little town with multiple "patients “. Haha. My decision is that..." + (show)
@billmason

After experiencing hospice in my little town with multiple "patients “. Haha.
My decision is that I will die alone on the filthy cold tile floor of a public restroom before I consider hospice!

Long story short.

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Sorry you had a bad experience with your hospice.

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standinginfaith | @standinginfaith | May 22 6:14pm
In reply to @rashida "@gravity3 no, I am talking about a patient in a hospital with a broken hip who..." + (show)
@rashida

@gravity3 no, I am talking about a patient in a hospital with a broken hip who is left to die without food and hydration because the doctors decide the patient won’t survive the surgery. So the alternate was to let the patient die of starvation. Patient did not make that decision - doctors told family that is what they should do and family went along with it, making this decision for the patient. Patient was not consulted.

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Oh my goodness!! That is so cruel!! We don't even let our pets suffer like that!! Unbelievable!! Health care is supposed to be ..health..CARE!! What is going on with the medical field..?? A nurse told me.."it's a bad time to be sick".. I agreed..

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pondguy | @pondguy | May 23 9:50am
In reply to @billmason "After experiencing hospice in my little town with multiple "patients “. Haha. My decision is that..." + (show)
@billmason

After experiencing hospice in my little town with multiple "patients “. Haha.
My decision is that I will die alone on the filthy cold tile floor of a public restroom before I consider hospice!

Long story short.

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Our experience with my brother, who died at home from glioblastoma brain cancer, and 5 years later my sister-in-law , who died at home also with Parkinson's, could not have been accomplished without the wonderful care from the home- hospice nurses.

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pondguy | @pondguy | May 23 9:55am

Are you in a state that allows end of life decisions to be made by the patient? Or an adjacent state?
If your life is not worth living any longer maybe this could be accomplished. Check into it. I wish you peace in ending your time here.

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collison | @collison | May 25 7:08am
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@kb2014

I did what I said. Changed my advanced directives. I am a DNR. I am not suicidal abd actually pretty positive and goal directed. However reality is what it is.

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I am replying to this entire thread.
I live in Ontario, Canada. We are blessed to have legalized MAID. Medical Assistance in Dying. Does this exist in the States, anywhere? It is a compassionate and sane way to end acute suffering. It is never a quick fix, the procedure is rigorous.
What do you think of this as a choice? There's a beauty to this way of dying. You can choose a time. Conclude with family, friends, make your peace with your God, prepare to meet your Creator, or whatever your belief may be.
I've had several friends choose this way, and as a sufferer in progressing chronic pain, I know
I'd take this path.
I am sorry for the ineptitude in hospitals. I hope for an enlightenment around the normal, nature's way for all creatures and .beings.
How I wish for us to normalize dying in our societies, we've had generations now of denial of death as what we teach our children and it becomes a stigma, to talk about death and dying in any kind of every day exchange.
I pray for peace... I wish for freedom from suffering. I encourage laughter as every day ...at life's wonderful foibles and gifts and just beauty. Even in pain. Even when it feels hopeless. Perspective. Sanity. Joy! Pride, love..
love over fear.
There, my rant for today. Onward and ah, it hurts and I struggle... pull my walker to me one more time. Nearly 82. Living my best life!
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gravity3 | @gravity3 | May 25 9:09am
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@collison

I am replying to this entire thread.
I live in Ontario, Canada. We are blessed to have legalized MAID. Medical Assistance in Dying. Does this exist in the States, anywhere? It is a compassionate and sane way to end acute suffering. It is never a quick fix, the procedure is rigorous.
What do you think of this as a choice? There's a beauty to this way of dying. You can choose a time. Conclude with family, friends, make your peace with your God, prepare to meet your Creator, or whatever your belief may be.
I've had several friends choose this way, and as a sufferer in progressing chronic pain, I know
I'd take this path.
I am sorry for the ineptitude in hospitals. I hope for an enlightenment around the normal, nature's way for all creatures and .beings.
How I wish for us to normalize dying in our societies, we've had generations now of denial of death as what we teach our children and it becomes a stigma, to talk about death and dying in any kind of every day exchange.
I pray for peace... I wish for freedom from suffering. I encourage laughter as every day ...at life's wonderful foibles and gifts and just beauty. Even in pain. Even when it feels hopeless. Perspective. Sanity. Joy! Pride, love..
love over fear.
There, my rant for today. Onward and ah, it hurts and I struggle... pull my walker to me one more time. Nearly 82. Living my best life!

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We have MAID in only some states. I live in North Carolina where it is not available. It is infuriating! I'm glad that it is available to you and others in Canada who want and need it. Some states who have it will allow folks from other states to come there and use maid. But that is a bit complicated. As a woman I've a belly full of others deciding what I can and cannot do with my body.

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