Blockage of carotid artery with no intervention till 80% blocked?

Posted by starfirey2k @starfirey2k, Nov 16, 2019

just a quick question, I have been diagnosed with a blockage in my carotid artery right side, had ultrasound, cat scan and since an MRI, my question is this, I have been told the blockage is 70-75 percent, also that they will not do anything until it is 80% as per the insurance company. I have done extensive reading on this and cannot find anything pointing to the 80% rule. I would rather have something done now rather than wait till I am older and maybe not be able to handle it then, I am 68 now, if anyone has had this done can you shed some light on this? is there a 80% rule? any info on this would be great, thank you for your help.

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Hello, I have posted my account of the procedure I had here in UK
If the artery is above 75% (mine was about 80%)
Being that you are 68 years old, I would have anticipated that the vascular specialist would be eager to operate before you have TIA or full strokes
Hope this helps

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Profile picture for tskeane @tskeane

Thanks for your post and your concern. I am seeing several docs for this. Unfortunately, they are all saying nothing can be done for 100% blocked artery. I'm finding that hard to believe in this day and age which is why I am searching out answers on Mayo Clinic's message board. If there are answers, I feel like Mayo Clinic may be my best hope.

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@tskeane hello I have mentioned in an earlier post that I have had my left Carotid operated upon as an endarterectomy. It wax approx 80% full such that it was seen as urgent to have the procedure
Your family doctor should be investigating the vascular surgeons in your area. There must be one who would recognise the necessity for the operation. Do not give up!

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Profile picture for heidemarie @heidemarie

I went for an eye exam just a regular eye checkup. The doctor told me the scan of my eye showed that I had a stroke. She called my Primary Doctor who called and told me to go to the ER which I did. Ended up in the hospital for 2 nights. I was told my right Carotid artery is 85% blocked. Have an appointment with a surgeon on the 31st! I am worried about surgery. What is my chance of having another stroke during surgry. Has anyone been in that position? Need advice

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@heidemarie
Hello
Having a stroke whilst and post surgery I was advised by the consultants are rare, however, as it is a possibility
They must warn patients
From my personal experience I would knock on your consultant’s door and tell him / her, to get the operating table ready. Go for the procedure

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What do you think of this from AI:
Blockage Thresholds by Symptom Status
Symptomatic Patients (Recent TIA or Stroke):Surgery is generally considered for blockages of 50% to 69%.Surgery is strongly recommended for blockages of 70% to 99%.“Carotid endarterectomy is typically recommended for patients who have had a prior TIA or mild stroke to reduce the risk of future strokes.”, as noted by Atrium Health Navicent.Asymptomatic Patients (No Recent Symptoms):Blockages under 60% are usually managed with medicine and lifestyle changes alone.Surgery is typically considered only if the blockage is 60% to 80% or greater, and depends on overall health risks.“Carotid endarterectomy is mainly for people whose carotid arteries are blocked 50 percent or more.”
So the bigger question is what are your symptoms related to the blockage?

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Profile picture for tskeane @tskeane

Hi. I hope someone can lead me to the right person. I have a 100% blocked right carotid artery. It has been blocked for 2 years. This week I had an eye exam and was found to have Ocular Ischemic Syndrome where my right eye is not getting enough blood flow because of the blocked carotid artery. The ophthalmologist said blood flow needs to be restored to my eye. My cardiologist has said there is nothing that can be done for a 100% blocked carotid artery. I am checking here to find out if anyone knows of a specialist in this area and what if any treatment options are available. Thank you.

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@tskeane why on earth has your physician not sent you to a vascular specialist to have an endarterectomy or a stent placement?

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Profile picture for socapatoy @socapatoy

Today I found that I have 90% blockage in right carotid artery. Tests are scheduled in one week. What can I do to protect myself until treatment is available?

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@socapatoy I am not experiencing a blocked artery, but I have learned some important lessons about being proactive to manage stress and fear about medical conditions. I needed cervical spine surgery and every time I thought about that, I was driving my blood pressure up a lot. I had to find a way to intercept that fear pathway and I did. I started with deep breathing to relaxing music. Singing can help too because it forces you to have a long exhale and that helps relax you. When you start pairing this with peaceful imagery, your mind can take you away to a safe place anytime you need to de-stress. I also asked myself lots of questions and found the source of my learned fear and essentially deprogrammed it. Stress escalates heath issues a lot. My dad was also a heart patient, and I didn’t want that to become my future and it all started to change when I asked myself why I was doing this to myself.

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Profile picture for socapatoy @socapatoy

Today I found that I have 90% blockage in right carotid artery. Tests are scheduled in one week. What can I do to protect myself until treatment is available?

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@socapatoy
Hello Soca. I found I had 100% blockage of my left carotid artery after having a panoramic X-ray at my dentist’s office. I was sent by my nurse practitioner to a vascular surgeon almost immediately. There was nothing to be done about the blockage (would risk allowing plaque to migrate to my brain). So, in addition to maintaining my statins, the surgeon also had me start to take aspirin (81 mg daily). I asked about changing things in my life (I golf, go to the gym 3 times a week, walk on a treadmill almost daily). He said to continue to do all of those (I was particularly concerned about the gym where I lift weights and use resistance machines). And so I just carry on, getting scans of my left carotid artery every six months to monitor that (it’s something like 50- 60% blocked). When (if?) it’s more seriously blocked (70-80%) then surgical intervention is in order I’m told. My only problem with that is that it’s an insurance thing, not a doctor/patient decision, as maybe I’d do it sooner. But you can’t fight city hall unfortunately. I’d ask the doctor what you can do; not sure what your lifestyle is. But my experience is as described above. Good luck.

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Profile picture for socapatoy @socapatoy

Today I found that I have 90% blockage in right carotid artery. Tests are scheduled in one week. What can I do to protect myself until treatment is available?

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Hi @socapatoy - welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect. You've just been given a whole lot of information you may or may not have been prepared for about this 90% blockage.

Waiting for tests and treatment is tough. I sense you'd like to get on with it?

Hoping other members here such as @gloaming @brihug @starfirey2k will have input on what they may have done to protect themselves when they became aware of a blockage but were not yet at treatment. @jenniferhunter also may have some thoughts for you.

What did your doctor suggest you do in the meantime while you are still undergoing testing, socapatoy?

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Today I found that I have 90% blockage in right carotid artery. Tests are scheduled in one week. What can I do to protect myself until treatment is available?

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Profile picture for gloaming @gloaming

@brihug This is exactly what happened, and what was explained to, my well-aged father who was 85 at the time he had an endarterectomy. The vascular surgeon told him his right side was fully occluded, and therefore inoperable. The left still had 10% passage, and she offered to bypass that with a vein stripped from his ankle. My dad opted for MAID three weeks ago, but due to failing health with other problems. He continued to invest on line and did very well, so his cognition did not suffer as a result of the one side being fully shut off. Note that there are other smaller arteries running up the back of the neck that an take up some of the needed flow, in addition to the bypassed left side in my Dad's case. So, while it's a distinct and lamentable bummer to lose one carotid's flow, it isn't an end-game catastrophe.

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@gloaming
Thanks for the comment and I hope your Dad continues to do well. His experience reinforces my belief that “what can be done is being done” and to follow the advice of the experts (my vascular surgeon, etc.) and ignore the concerns of friends and others, even though well meaning, who say I should do something more. Thanks again for the comment and best wishes to your Dad for continued health and quality of life.

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