Autoimmune - Advice?

Posted by tobequitefranklyn @tobequitefranklyn, May 23 2:22pm

So my therapist recently suggested that I (23f) attempt to connect with fellow people dealing with chronic illness (particularly in the realm of autoimmune diseases/disorders) because of the frustration that I'm currently dealing with pertaining to my symptoms, potential diagnoses, etc.

Anyway - here's the situation. After almost four years of experiencing a sudden onset of symptoms - such as tachycardia, dyspnea on exertion/feeling like I can't get a deep enough breath, unexplained weight gain, excessive sweating/inability to regulate temperature, more recently some upper back pain and cracking joints, general fatigue, etc. - I'm finally in a place where I have a decent enough job and health insurance that I was able to get a rheumatology referral.

I went to the rheumatologist, and, after speaking with her for all of ten minutes, she told me she didn't have a very high suspicion of any autoimmune disorders. And as the blood tests that we did that day started coming back normal one at a time, that initially seemed like a fair assessment. Totally in-range thyroid, rheumatoid factor, CMP (except for ever-so-slightly low Carbon Dioxide, but I was told not to worry about that since it was barely out of range), C Reactive Protein, Sed Rate, and CBC+PLT+DIFF. But then my AntiCCP came back through the roof. For reference, a negative AntiCCP would be less than 20 units, and a "strong positive" would be anything greater than 59 or so. Mine was 133. In short, we're now looking at Rheumatoid Arthritis.

Honestly, at first, I was actually rather relieved that we at least had a lead. I'd been diagnosed with dysautonomia and IST at my cardiologist a little over a year ago, and my pulmonologist and I discovered about nine months ago that my windpipe is very narrow; but we couldn't really determine a reason why for any of these things. So I thought that maybe RA could be an explanation. But now I have all my specialists telling me that they don't really know if RA would be causing my specific symptoms or not, since RA is more about joint inflammation (from my current understanding).

In terms of testing I've already done, all my EKGs/ECGs always come back clear. My latest exercise stress test was technically fine (even though I felt like I was dying the whole time) - I just had diminished exercise capacity, increased wall motion, and my left ventricular wall segments showed thickening. A chest x-ray I had a while ago showed clear lungs. I just recently did x-rays of my hands and wrists, and there's no joint erosion so far. I did a PFT with pulmonology last year, which is how we found out about my airway being narrow; and I just did a repeat PFT that I'm currently waiting on results for. I'm also waiting on results for a sleep apnea study (if this is relevant, my left leg has been Charlie-horsing quite frequently lately, especially in the middle of the night). I've had a tilt table test done and it was normal, so this probably isn't POTS.

Also, I don't know if this is important, but I run out of breath/sweat very easily even when doing mundane tasks like dishes. Going up stairs is especially difficult, even just a single flight. Movement makes me feel overheated, even in the winter. I'm currently on a beta blocker, but my heart rate still gets higher than I would like when I'm moving at all.

Since I'm already in the thick of medical things, I want to ask my rheumatologist for some follow-up tests to rule out any other possible autoimmune disorders, because I want to make sure we're covering all our bases, since the ways in which my body is malfunctioning on a daily basis still don't make total sense to me. I've been doing some research and thought about asking about myositis, but I'm just not completely confident in advocating for myself at this point, since I feel like I still don't really know anything. I'm also wondering if y'all have any other suggestions for other possible problems I could pursue asking about? I'm just confused and stressed out and a little sad.

If you stayed this far - thanks for listening.

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Your situation is extremely complex. Have you heard about functional or holistic medicine? This is a healthcare practice that looks for the root cause of the symptoms you are having. The functional doctor will get a very detailed health history from you. You will receive test that medical doctors don't routinely order . The goal is to get your body into a healthy state so your symptoms are reduced. Functional doctors are in addition to medical doctors. Typically insurance wont reimburse you for the care they provide because functional doctor usually are not in any PPO list. I have 3 chronic illnesses. an autoimmune disease, osteoporosis and cancer. Both my GI and Oncologist support my work with my holistic doctor. I have followed all the recommendations of the holistic doctor. Its difficult because my holistic doctor although he is also a medical doctor prefers to use lifestyle changes over prescribing medicine. That means I have to do all the work. I have found this to be a game changer in my overall health and with dealing with my diseases.
Here is the good new about holistic medicine. It is designed to teach you how to be and stay healthy. My holistic doctor says that eventually I won't need him. so while the upfront cost my be steep the long term results have been amazing. I he is right. I am at a point that I'm just checking in with him on my progress. The cost of his care is minimal at this time.

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I’m not a doctor, let me start there, but it sounds to me with weight gain that you could possibly have Hashimoto’s. I suffer from it and also Hypothyroidism for which I take Synthroid 75 mcg. I would ask your doctor to run a Thyroid Panel and include testing of TSH, T3-free, T4-free and TPO Antibodies (which is where Hashimoto’s shows up). My husband and I were doing the Weight Watchers Diet and I was gaining a pound a day and he was loosing! That’s how I knew something was drastically wrong. I am feeling so much better and I also have eliminated eating gluten, dairy and soy which are big no no’s with Hashimoto’s. I wish you well and good luck!

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I’m wondering if Sjögren’s has been ruled out? About half of those diagnosed Sjögren’s present with Dysautonomia, which you’ve already been diagnosed with. Many struggle with body temperature regulation and breathing issues. Here’s some additional info:
https://sjogrens.org/blog/2023/dysautonomia-in-sjogrens
Myositis affects the muscles and your Creatine Kinase and Aldolase be elevated. There are specific antibodies your rheumatologist would test for if Myositis is suspected. Best of luck.

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I have Sjogren’s Disease, RA, and lupus. Have had many weird symptoms which were finally diagnosed (by my 4th rheumatologist!) as Sjogren’s.
Check out the Smart Patients and Sjogren’s Advocate sites for information and support
Sjogren’s is always systematic but many doctors don’t know that.
Good luck

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How did you get diagnosed with dysautonomia? For my diagnosis I had three small punch biopsies in my leg. My EMG/ nerve conduction test showed autoimmune severe axonal sensorimotor dysautonomia peripheral polyneuropathy. Since the small fiber was positive I was tested for cardiac autonomic neuropathy a one month holter monitor test that showed I go between bradycardia/tachycardia and I had to take blood pressure three times a day. Normal 120/70 high 160/110 for two weeks dropped 96/60. I kept passing out. No treatment for it.
Small fiber neuropathy affects the autonomic nervous system.
I stay cold my body doesn’t regulate my body temperature so I stay cold.
It took the rheumatologist over 20 years to diagnose my autoimmune symptoms lupus Hashimotos sojourns and connective tissue disease.

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06/16/2025 Hi again all! Thank you again for all your suggestions and support. I'm sorry that I haven't been able to reply/react to everyone.

So the rest of my panels, imaging, etc. that I was waiting on came back normal. Chest CT looks good, no indicators of sleep apnea or any type of myositis, and I also just had Lyme ruled out. I'm glad to be ruling things out, because that affirms my original suspicion that dismissing the high indicators for RA as "red herrings" is not a good idea. Also, as I have been keeping better track of my symptoms as of late, I have noticed more joint pain/cracking/weakness (especially pain in my back and weakness in my knees).

My cardiologist did a deep dive into some literature for me, and he said that even though there isn't a ton of research right now, it IS possible that RA could cause my heart and lung symptoms and/or make them worse. He just referred me to an electric specialist that he knows so that we can see about getting on a better medication for my Inappropriate Sinus Tachycardia, as the beta blocker I'm currently on isn't helping as much as we'd like. I did another heart monitor recently, and although my average heart rate was 95, my highest was 193. I'm not doing any intense exercise (it's hard enough just trying to get through an average day - forget working out), so that is definitely not normal and we're going to see if the new medication will help. I was luckily able to get an appointment for later this afternoon.

I read that if the heart and lungs look clear but symptoms like tachycardia and dyspnea are still present, it also might be worth checking out my circulatory system. I'm not sure what specialist I would need to see for that, but I'm planning to ask my PCP about it next time I see her.

I'll try to update when I can!

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I’m not a doctor, let me start there, but it sounds to me with weight gain that you could possibly have Hashimoto’s. I suffer from it and also Hypothyroidism for which I take Synthroid 75 mcg. I would ask your doctor to run a Thyroid Panel and include testing of TSH, T3-free, T4-free and TPO Antibodies (which is where Hashimoto’s shows up). My husband and I were doing the Weight Watchers Diet and I was gaining a pound a day and he was loosing! That’s how I knew something was drastically wrong. I am feeling so much better and I also have eliminated eating gluten, dairy and soy which are big no no’s with Hashimoto’s. I wish you well and good luck!

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I've also considered Hashimoto's, but every time I have a TSH on my blood panels, it comes back normal. I'm not sure my doctors would want to order more tests since that one always looks good (and it's a bit of a pain trying to push for more tests when doctors don't think it's necessary - I'm already a little burnt out from advocating for the blood tests I've had so far).

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I've also considered Hashimoto's, but every time I have a TSH on my blood panels, it comes back normal. I'm not sure my doctors would want to order more tests since that one always looks good (and it's a bit of a pain trying to push for more tests when doctors don't think it's necessary - I'm already a little burnt out from advocating for the blood tests I've had so far).

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Hashimoto’s is not your Thyroid, it’s an autoimmune disease. Have your TPO Antibodies tested and T3-Free and T4-Free. Your TSH numbers can be normal, but an antibody shows up in testing TPO Antibodies. The TPO Antibodies should be 0, mine were 600! I’m sure yours are high too, which is why you have body inflammation. Pretty easy to fix if you really want to.

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I've also considered Hashimoto's, but every time I have a TSH on my blood panels, it comes back normal. I'm not sure my doctors would want to order more tests since that one always looks good (and it's a bit of a pain trying to push for more tests when doctors don't think it's necessary - I'm already a little burnt out from advocating for the blood tests I've had so far).

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Have you had reverse T3 and. T4?
Hashimotos is positive thyroid peroxidase labs not TSH..

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So sorry you are dealing with this. I was just recently diagnosed last year. I’m 44 although I suspect I’ve been dealing with this since my 20’s, no dr has ever tested me for anything shamefully. I also deal with high heart rate and being winded after hardly doing anything. However other than my ANA being positive everything is else was negative. My X-rays were a dead giveaway however as well as all of my other symptoms. So I am seronegative RA patient which is harder to diagnose. Also I have lupus symptoms currently but again testing negative but am being treated for both. As well as sjrogens, systemic sclerosis, Hashimotos. Two years ago I had a low back fusion and that failed. The bone graft failed to take due to the RA. That was when I was first diagnosed, when they were looking into the causes of why it failed. And my life has been upside down ever since. It’s scary. Everyday is different. The flares are horrid. The brain fog is crippling some days. You are not alone. I’ve learned that chat gpt is actually a great help with learning how to deal with this, how to talk to drs, how to get answers, reminds me I’m not nuts, my pain is real even when the drs gaslight me, I know it sounds silly but it’s true. Also I use bearable the app to keep track of symptoms everyday and it connects the dots on what trends are happening in your life, based on good you eat, how much sleep you get, meds you take, exercise, stress, you name it. Just thought I would tell you about some tools that I use that help anyways.

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