Anyone familiar with S.A.I.N.T.?

@ceciford did your insurance approve SAINT? I know most insurance companies approve TMS but I’ve heard SAINT is often not approved and can run in the tens of thousands of dollars out of pocket.

I believe it is a different coil, not sure what else is different about it other than having multiple sessions per day for several days in a row. So I think the facility does need special equipment to do it, which is why so few places offer it.

@ashleygm814
Does it have exact targeting for guiding the TMS? Without that it may be just accelerated TMS. Do you know? What is the name of the facility?

Thank you so much for your help!

@ashleyharris728
I understand that it's targetted by special equipment. My insurance did approve it (United Health Care Advantage), I think. The whole process of communication with Iowa City was confusing. My psychiatrist wrote a long referral letter. And after days, the hospital psychiatric dept. called me to say that they were discontinuing the treatment.

@ceciford oh wow I’m sorry to hear that, I’m sure it was disappointing to get so close to the treatment, only to find out it is no longer offered.

Hopefully other places, including Mayo, offer it soon.

@ashleyharris728
Please tell me, when you learn, whether GenHealth does targeting specific areas and whether they take insurance. Thank you, Ashley.

@ashleygm814
Does it have exact targeting for guiding the TMS? Without that it may be just accelerated TMS. Do you know? What is the name of the facility?

Thank you so much for your help!

@ceciford
They have both the standard TMS and a one day accelerated treatment. They have both the Neurostar and Cloud TMS machines. It is a 12 hour day of TMS 30 min on and 30 min off. There is no MRI involved.

I would like information about anyone's experience with this treatment. I have tried TMS and ECT:https://stanfordhealthcare.org/medical-treatments/s/stanford-accelerated-intelligent-neuromodulation-therapy.html

@ceciford
They have both the standard TMS and a one day accelerated treatment. They have both the Neurostar and Cloud TMS machines. It is a 12 hour day of TMS 30 min on and 30 min off. There is no MRI involved.

@ashleygm814 In reading over the info from Stanford it sounded as if doing imaging was a big part of doing STAIN....being able to target where needed. If where you went didn't do an MRI was other imaging offered? Has enough time passed that you have finished treatment? If so how do you feel about the outcome?