Always run down with MGUS

Posted by dazlin @dazlin, Feb 13, 2020

Not really sure if its related, but I get super wiped out after a couple hours of chores, or just shopping, my entire body aches badly. I have so much drive, and love getting everything done, love cleaning, cooking, gardening, and simply enjoying everything in order and organized. Seems lately, more so than the last 2 years since I was diagnosed with MGUS, once I get tired doing whatever, I'll come down with cold sores by next day, usually in my nose, sometimes on my lips. I now have meds for it. Then I'm wiped out for a few days. I dont let it stop me, but I'll admit I'm uncomfortable doing my usual. Drs continue to monitor my labs, and nothing really has progressed. I'm not anemic, and most bloodwork is within normal range. My IGM'S are very low, said to be crowded out by the abnormal cells. The IGM'S are the main white blood cells to fight infection, so I'm at risk, but I never get sick, or run fever, thank God. Just ALWAYS run down. I'm disappointed, and I always feel like even a trip to see my new baby grandson about an hour and 20 minutes drive, will leave me very tired, and run down next day. I actually plan to keep my outings short. I had a bone marrow biopsy done last june...cells are 4% IGG KAPPA...no treatment at this level. Does anyone here experience anything similar to me, with MGUS, and if so, does anything help? I think I'm starting to feel bit disheartened because I'm so active and enjoy doing alot, but my body quits, how sad.

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Hi @dazlin, you wrote elsewhere:
"I have a low Mgus…yet my drs reports say, abdominal IGG kappa. I haven't been able to research anything related to abdominal mgus. Could this be a typographical error?? It has been stated in the past 3 reports. Im wondering if it's an a typographical error. How could they determine its abdominal??
If anyone has heard of this, I'd love an explanation. Just to let you all know, YES, I will ask and discuss on my visit in February. Just wondering."

Might the typo have been "immunoglobulin"? Was the result from an abdominal CT scan or abdominal biopsy?

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@mitten

Thank you- much appreciated. I have some bone pain, but nothing to scream about. Multiple myeloma runs on my father's side. Diagnosed with MGUS/ Lambda subtype since 5/2020, both oncologists want to see me every 3 months since 2020. Things are slowly progressing as they say and is approaching the 10% mark evidenced from BM biopsy. Hopefully someone can give me feedback as to what I can do or questions to ask my oncologists. Thank you again.

Mitten

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@mitten People can go for many years with MGUS. While the monitoring can be a chore, it is important to do it at the intervals recommended by your medical team. They will be watching closely, seeing that multiple myeloma runs on your father's side, and kudos to you for having that information to give them!

As my oncologist had told me at the beginning, he wanted to wait as long as possible before starting me on treatment, since "once you start, that will be it". I have co-morbidities and he didn't want me to be overloaded.
Ginger

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@amandaa

Hi @mitten, I wanted you to be able to connect with others so they could help you with suggestions of what to ask your doctor, so I moved your post here: Always run down with MGUS: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/always-run-down-with-mgus/

Reference: "Can MGUS make you tired? Your doctor is likely to watch for signs and symptoms such as: Bone pain. Fatigue or weakness. Unintentional weight loss" --- Monoclonal gammopathy of undetermined significance (MGUS): https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/mgus/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20352367

Besides energy, are you having any other symptoms mentioned above?

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Thank you- much appreciated. I have some bone pain, but nothing to scream about. Multiple myeloma runs on my father's side. Diagnosed with MGUS/ Lambda subtype since 5/2020, both oncologists want to see me every 3 months since 2020. Things are slowly progressing as they say and is approaching the 10% mark evidenced from BM biopsy. Hopefully someone can give me feedback as to what I can do or questions to ask my oncologists. Thank you again.

Mitten

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Hi @mitten, I wanted you to be able to connect with others so they could help you with suggestions of what to ask your doctor, so I moved your post here: Always run down with MGUS: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/always-run-down-with-mgus/

Reference: "Can MGUS make you tired? Your doctor is likely to watch for signs and symptoms such as: Bone pain. Fatigue or weakness. Unintentional weight loss" --- Monoclonal gammopathy of undetermined significance (MGUS): https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/mgus/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20352367

Besides energy, are you having any other symptoms mentioned above?

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Feeling fatigued daily. Diagnosed with MGUS-IGG Lambda. MM runs in my family. I have to see my oncologist every (3) months. My platelet counts have been slowly declining since diagnosis in 2020. It's now 194, still in normal range, but declining. BM biopsy shows hypocellular bone marrow. Is there anything that can be done to increase energy? What questions should I be asking my oncologist?

Mitten

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@gingerw

@mitten Please understand that less than 10% of SMM patients evolve in to multiple myeloma in the first year. Known for being different, guess I had to jump on the bandwagon ;)) Don't think of it in your future.

Remember, each person has their own journey. Response to a medication, level of disease, additional health concerns, treatment options, etc. all play a part. Here on Mayo Clinic Connect, we get to share our experiences and offer support to everyone. Anytime you have a question or concern, feel free to reach out!

Here is a link from Mayo Clinic about multiple myeloma: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/multiple-myeloma/symptoms-causes/syc-20353378
And here is a link to the International Myeloma Foundation, which has a wonderful resource base. Very easy to get lost "down the rabbit hole". Under the "What is Multiple Myeloma" tab, go to "Newly Diagnosed" which will give you information on different levels. https://www.myeloma.org
Ginger

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Thank you - much appreciated!
Mitten

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@mitten

Hi Ginger,
Wow, SMM morphed into MM in less than a year. Thank you for your feedback and I have decided to continue 3 months. I do visits 1-2 times to Dana Farber in Boston, MA and see my local every 3 months. My cell % in my bone marrow biopsy is approaching 10% so I am still in MGUS stage. Thank you for sharing - this is helpful. No other questions I can think about at this time. I will be praying for you.
Mitten

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@mitten Please understand that less than 10% of SMM patients evolve in to multiple myeloma in the first year. Known for being different, guess I had to jump on the bandwagon ;)) Don't think of it in your future.

Remember, each person has their own journey. Response to a medication, level of disease, additional health concerns, treatment options, etc. all play a part. Here on Mayo Clinic Connect, we get to share our experiences and offer support to everyone. Anytime you have a question or concern, feel free to reach out!

Here is a link from Mayo Clinic about multiple myeloma: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/multiple-myeloma/symptoms-causes/syc-20353378
And here is a link to the International Myeloma Foundation, which has a wonderful resource base. Very easy to get lost "down the rabbit hole". Under the "What is Multiple Myeloma" tab, go to "Newly Diagnosed" which will give you information on different levels. https://www.myeloma.org
Ginger

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@gingerw

@mitten Good afternoon, and welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect! I'm glad you found us, and look forward to hearing your experiences.

Follow your oncologist's guidelines, is my suggestion. While it may be inconvenient for you, you want to be sure your case is being followed. If you live a distance away, speak with your team about telehealth, and if that would be okay in your case, perhaps every other time?

I live 2 hours away from my oncologist. While every three months was not a big deal, I am now doing monthly visits. My SMM morphed into multiple myeloma in less than a year after the Nov 2019 diagnosis. I guess I am an overachiever, as that happens in about 10% of the cases! In August 2021 I started a low-dose chemo plan, meant to reduce my IgM kappa slowly, since I also have kidney disease not related to this multiple myeloma.

There is a protocol that your oncologist will prefer to follow. Trust him/her if you have until this point. If you can do a telehealth every other time, and have the blood work done, do that if they will agree. Any other questions for me?
Ginger

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Hi Ginger,
Wow, SMM morphed into MM in less than a year. Thank you for your feedback and I have decided to continue 3 months. I do visits 1-2 times to Dana Farber in Boston, MA and see my local every 3 months. My cell % in my bone marrow biopsy is approaching 10% so I am still in MGUS stage. Thank you for sharing - this is helpful. No other questions I can think about at this time. I will be praying for you.
Mitten

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@mitten

Hi Ginger,
Sorry to hear about the progression to SMM. I was curious do they consider you for any oral treatments or something to slow down progression? I'm still in the MGUS stage diagnosed in 5/2020. I see my oncologists every quarter or 3 months. My FLC ratio went up to 2.22 my diagnosis is MGUS with lambda subtype. MY IGG is 2200 down from 2300 and shows M -spike. I would love to just go every 6 months, but oncologist is not recommending that at this time. I thought after 1yr diagnosis they evaluate every 6-12 months? Do you know anything about that?

Mitten

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@mitten Good afternoon, and welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect! I'm glad you found us, and look forward to hearing your experiences.

Follow your oncologist's guidelines, is my suggestion. While it may be inconvenient for you, you want to be sure your case is being followed. If you live a distance away, speak with your team about telehealth, and if that would be okay in your case, perhaps every other time?

I live 2 hours away from my oncologist. While every three months was not a big deal, I am now doing monthly visits. My SMM morphed into multiple myeloma in less than a year after the Nov 2019 diagnosis. I guess I am an overachiever, as that happens in about 10% of the cases! In August 2021 I started a low-dose chemo plan, meant to reduce my IgM kappa slowly, since I also have kidney disease not related to this multiple myeloma.

There is a protocol that your oncologist will prefer to follow. Trust him/her if you have until this point. If you can do a telehealth every other time, and have the blood work done, do that if they will agree. Any other questions for me?
Ginger

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@gingerw

@dazlin My MGUS advanced into smoldering multiple myeloma officially in Nov 2019, so I am on a quarterly regimen of bloodwork and specialists appointments now. In fact, I go in on 2/25. It is my understanding and belief that the situation has its ups-and-downs, kinda like a rollercoaster ride. The way we take care of ourselves, and learn how to creatively use our energy allotment each day, is the key. The eating healthy and being watchful, like you said, is important. What was hard for me was to acknowledge that I simply did not have the total energy I once had. So, I had to scale back. That was hard. When do you go back to your doctors, next? Write down your questions and listen to what they say. Each person is different, and it might be the right time for your children to start helping you on all those holidays!
Ginger

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Hi Ginger,
Sorry to hear about the progression to SMM. I was curious do they consider you for any oral treatments or something to slow down progression? I'm still in the MGUS stage diagnosed in 5/2020. I see my oncologists every quarter or 3 months. My FLC ratio went up to 2.22 my diagnosis is MGUS with lambda subtype. MY IGG is 2200 down from 2300 and shows M -spike. I would love to just go every 6 months, but oncologist is not recommending that at this time. I thought after 1yr diagnosis they evaluate every 6-12 months? Do you know anything about that?

Mitten

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