Afib Triggers: Mine is my neck or body position, yours?

Posted by akbooks45 @akbooks45, Jan 12, 2020

My atrial Fibrillation triggers with neck position or body. My neck and torso are relatively short and I seem to compress the Vagus nerve if my neck is sharply bent or the same with my torso. Have you ever heard of that? That is the only time it does so.

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Excellent. I sometimes get a decent sleep, even up to seven full hours, using nothing, but those follow a pattern I am reluctant to follow due to my preferred lifestyle (staying up late with the computer or with my telescopes/binoculars looking at the faint 'n fuzzies up there). The pattern is fairly robust...if....if I bother to enable it. It's simple: go to bed about an hour earlier. It works surprisingly well. It's as if my body's waking time is hard and fast, set in concrete, and if I got to bed later, it will rob me of sleep. I can stay up until 0200 if I want...it isn't difficult at all. But, I'll still awaken between 0630 and 0700 virtually without fail. If I use melatonin, sparingly, twice a week, I can buy an additional hour about 2 times out of three. I am not sure, because I won't test it, but if I were to take melatonin several nights in succession I think I would eventually run out of efficacy. It wouldn't work, maybe not for weeks later.
I'm happy you can have this little positivity and promise. I hope it works continuously, but you may want to resort to melatonin only two/three times each week. Or, experiment and let us know how it works if you feel you want to take it every night. Please.

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Well, I planned on taking the gummy every night. But after reading your reply I'm not too sure now. I'll take a chance and not take one tonight. I can usually put myself to sleep by concentrating on emptying my mind of all the crap I think about. If I should wake at 3:00 a.m. I'll have to deal with it. I usually go to sleep around 9 p.m., but tonight I'll wait until 10. I won't watch TV but I'll read. Keep your fingers crossed 🙂.

I used to have a telescope many years ago. I don't have the money now.

Until tomorrow, have a good night.

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That makes sense to me. I also feel that getting overheated triggers mine whether during the night or in the sun.

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I took a 2.5 mg Melatonin gummy last night and slept like a baby. I did open my eyes at 3:15 but then closed them immediately and fell back asleep. I had close to 6.5 hours of sleep. I feel great thus morning. T hank you for your advice. Greatly appreciated!

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Excellent. I sometimes get a decent sleep, even up to seven full hours, using nothing, but those follow a pattern I am reluctant to follow due to my preferred lifestyle (staying up late with the computer or with my telescopes/binoculars looking at the faint 'n fuzzies up there). The pattern is fairly robust...if....if I bother to enable it. It's simple: go to bed about an hour earlier. It works surprisingly well. It's as if my body's waking time is hard and fast, set in concrete, and if I got to bed later, it will rob me of sleep. I can stay up until 0200 if I want...it isn't difficult at all. But, I'll still awaken between 0630 and 0700 virtually without fail. If I use melatonin, sparingly, twice a week, I can buy an additional hour about 2 times out of three. I am not sure, because I won't test it, but if I were to take melatonin several nights in succession I think I would eventually run out of efficacy. It wouldn't work, maybe not for weeks later.
I'm happy you can have this little positivity and promise. I hope it works continuously, but you may want to resort to melatonin only two/three times each week. Or, experiment and let us know how it works if you feel you want to take it every night. Please.

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Well, that's the trick, isn't it: to 'seem' to know? 😀
Seriously, I'm just an elderly nerdy male who never amounted to much, but who has never stopped testing the limits of my ability to understand and to absorb (sometimes useless) information. I read tons, watch videos, and then try to use what I have learned. If I find it useful, I pass it on when I can. So, nothing special about me.

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I took a 2.5 mg Melatonin gummy last night and slept like a baby. I did open my eyes at 3:15 but then closed them immediately and fell back asleep. I had close to 6.5 hours of sleep. I feel great thus morning. T hank you for your advice. Greatly appreciated!

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gloaming, who are you? You seem to know what you are talking about

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Well, that's the trick, isn't it: to 'seem' to know? 😀
Seriously, I'm just an elderly nerdy male who never amounted to much, but who has never stopped testing the limits of my ability to understand and to absorb (sometimes useless) information. I read tons, watch videos, and then try to use what I have learned. If I find it useful, I pass it on when I can. So, nothing special about me.

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You have, apparently, some variant of POTS (positional orthostatic tachycardia/arrhythmia) and it might be due to impaction on the Vagus nerve or loss of tone of the Vagus nerve during certain postures. It could also mean you need an MRI to see if your spine is okay. I'm only guessing.

I would urge you to get some advice, and an assessment, from a postural specialist physical therapist. You may need a 'fascia release' technique, ligamental release or realignment, muscle tone improvement....maybe all of those, but I think you should really do this to find out if you can get even three or four degrees of correction. It might make all the difference in the world.

The other possibility is visceral adiposity....internal body fat deposited around and in between your internal organs. In certain positions, this can come to bear and cause problems on surfaces, blood vessels, nerves....

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gloaming, who are you? You seem to know what you are talking about

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My afib is definitely triggered by certain positions. I avoid them as much as possible. Certainly bending, leaning to the left and also bloating with irritate my vagus nerve. I never sleep on my left side. Good luck!

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I once told my GP doc that my "position" seemed to sometimes trigger my AF. He said that was not a thing. I think I was just using the wrong terminology (rather than saying he was not at all an expert in AF). You are likely correct that it is just related to your Vagus nerve. My "positions" were things like pulling weeds from the lawn, things like squatting and working. All these actions were pressing on my nerve. Vomiting also frequently did it for me (my throat would sometimes get clogged until I had it dilatated, I could only vomit to clear the obstruction).

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Exactly, mine is triggered by working in stooped over position, like pulling weeds. Asked cardiologist about vagal infringement or stimulations, he did not thing so

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