What helps spinal stenosis besides surgery?

Posted by sakota9 (Joan) @sakota, Jul 17, 2020

I also suffer from bursitus in my hips so I go in for infections. The shots help both my hips and my back. Today, thought I would look for things on the internet and then discuss with my dr. I came across an article for a neuromd Its a device you wear on your back and helps with the pain. Its been FDA tested and approved. Has anyone checked this out. I don't know if insurance covers it or not ...... I am getting tired of the injections and those really are just a temporary solution. I'm 76 and don't think I want to go thru surgery and my dr said that doesn't really help. So if anyone has one of these things or know about them, would appreciate your input. Besides the back am also dealing with copd and lung cancer........Life is like a box of cherries......I just keep getting the sour ones......... Hope you all are doing ok......andhave God, family and friends as your everyday support...........

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@nemo1

Absolutely. May i ask, what if anything helped the tingling and pins and needles in the legs and feet?

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Sure you can ask away!! 🙂 I have other underlying Conditions along w/ the C- Spine issues. So my Physician Treads lightly, I have tried Lyrica, Gabapentin, for 18 months, reaction of Lyrica suicidal, hateful and W/Gabapentin same, and diaphoresis, gabapentin initiators with spinal cord injury also had a cognitive decrease in using neuropsychological tests which was my issue.

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I am on lyrica but it is not helping the tingling and pins and needles. Those symptoms are getting worse. I get it in lower limbs. I’ve got other issues too along with back problems (polyradiculopathy) in back some stenosis and neck with other stuff in back. I’m supposed to be on anti-inflammatory diet but it is radical and not sustainable. I am trying it again to try to help the situation. I’m wondering if there is anything else in addition to lyrica, sleeping on ice packs nightly mild stretching and massage I can do? Thank you for anything you could suggest!

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@wil24

Hello, Absolutely PT, along w/ dry Needling I have done 2015, 2017, 2019, 2021, 2023, I continue to do all my Strength, and Stretching. Only way I can try to function, until Oct 18th 2023, I lost all grasping, holding, standing, bending , and even sleeping, razors, pins and needles in neck all the way thru arms and hands no feeling and into my legs and to feet.
Trying to stay awake is a big challenge too. This Spinal Stenosis/ Compression Bulging/ herniated disc's is also putting pressure on my head and constantly a Major ram horn headaches which affects my vision as well.. I try daily since off of work since October to keep up w/ Strengthening/PT techniques, and then in return find myself down for the count either that night and or Next day, unable to move. Next week can't come soon enough 😩 for Mayo and to get positive answers. I am at my last Wit's, of this agonizing pain and one can take only so many Naproxen as needed, plus I refuse any other medication " due to Addictive Personality in The Past", plus in past tried many others, gabapentin, lyrica, on that started w/ the letter C? and always bad outcomes w/ each one. So hopefully next week we come to a conclusion on what's best.

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@wil24 Susan, I wish you safe travels next week. If you’re going to Rochester, hopefully the temperatures will have moderated a bit. I’m about 250 miles from Mayo and the extreme cold and below zero temperatures are just breaking today. We often get the same storm system on the southern end as Rochester. Surgery is a big step and I am glad I had mine at Mayo. You may need to plan for extra days in case weather affects the safety of traveling. Are you driving?

Take care,
Jennifer

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@wil24

Hello, Absolutely PT, along w/ dry Needling I have done 2015, 2017, 2019, 2021, 2023, I continue to do all my Strength, and Stretching. Only way I can try to function, until Oct 18th 2023, I lost all grasping, holding, standing, bending , and even sleeping, razors, pins and needles in neck all the way thru arms and hands no feeling and into my legs and to feet.
Trying to stay awake is a big challenge too. This Spinal Stenosis/ Compression Bulging/ herniated disc's is also putting pressure on my head and constantly a Major ram horn headaches which affects my vision as well.. I try daily since off of work since October to keep up w/ Strengthening/PT techniques, and then in return find myself down for the count either that night and or Next day, unable to move. Next week can't come soon enough 😩 for Mayo and to get positive answers. I am at my last Wit's, of this agonizing pain and one can take only so many Naproxen as needed, plus I refuse any other medication " due to Addictive Personality in The Past", plus in past tried many others, gabapentin, lyrica, on that started w/ the letter C? and always bad outcomes w/ each one. So hopefully next week we come to a conclusion on what's best.

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Never heard of dry kneeding before…

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@nemo1

Never heard of dry kneeding before…

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Dry Needling= Also known as trigger point dry needling and intramuscular stimulation, is a treatment technique used by various healthcare practitioners, including physical therapists, physicians, and chiropractors, among others. When applied to an Affected muscle or trigger point, it can decrease muscle tightness, increase blood flow and reduce pain. It

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@jenniferhunter

@wil24 Susan, I wish you safe travels next week. If you’re going to Rochester, hopefully the temperatures will have moderated a bit. I’m about 250 miles from Mayo and the extreme cold and below zero temperatures are just breaking today. We often get the same storm system on the southern end as Rochester. Surgery is a big step and I am glad I had mine at Mayo. You may need to plan for extra days in case weather affects the safety of traveling. Are you driving?

Take care,
Jennifer

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@jenniferhunter We Are Driving and about 200 miles away by Madison WI. And the temp today was -27 by us. We are Driving to my Sister's cabin the day before staying there since it is only 2 hrs 20 min drive I can kinda do the drive, then on 23rd drive the other 2hours to Rochester, I am a, wreck when sitting /Driving as in my Neck kills me and l lose feeling in everything.. Thank You For All Your Caring Words/ Suggestions. And I will keep on Posting and Reading..
Susan

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@wil24

@jenniferhunter We Are Driving and about 200 miles away by Madison WI. And the temp today was -27 by us. We are Driving to my Sister's cabin the day before staying there since it is only 2 hrs 20 min drive I can kinda do the drive, then on 23rd drive the other 2hours to Rochester, I am a, wreck when sitting /Driving as in my Neck kills me and l lose feeling in everything.. Thank You For All Your Caring Words/ Suggestions. And I will keep on Posting and Reading..
Susan

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@wil24 Susan, I'm just a couple hours from Madison over the border in IL and we drive past Madison going up to Rochester. I hope you have someone to drive and share the trip with you. I'm sure that will be a tough trip to make, so take it easy and stop when you need a rest to get out and stretch. Take blankets and water with you in case of car trouble. We've had the brutal temperatures here too, and today was the first day I went out since the snowstorm hit. Before my surgery, I used to wrap a bead filled microwavable wrap around my neck and tie it with a neck scarf. It gave me support kind of like a neck brace. If you have a hotel room with a microwave, it is a nice way to relax with a heat wrap and it helps with some of the muscle spasms particularly after a long car ride. I would also take pillows in the car so I could put them in my lap and rest my arms on them and I can do that when I'm driving. That helps take some pressure off the neck too. It's good you can break your drive in half and stay at the cabin. Going to Mayo is the first step in a long journey to recovery. I'm glad you have the opportunity to go to the best place you can be for a spine issue.

Jennifer

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I did not take care of Spinal Stenosis soon enough due to no health insurance. I developed CUADA EQUINA syndrome.
Please discuss this with your Orthopedic doctor. CES is a serious condition. Best of luck and hang in there!

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@wil24

@jenniferhunter We Are Driving and about 200 miles away by Madison WI. And the temp today was -27 by us. We are Driving to my Sister's cabin the day before staying there since it is only 2 hrs 20 min drive I can kinda do the drive, then on 23rd drive the other 2hours to Rochester, I am a, wreck when sitting /Driving as in my Neck kills me and l lose feeling in everything.. Thank You For All Your Caring Words/ Suggestions. And I will keep on Posting and Reading..
Susan

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@wil24 Susan, I had a few other thoughts for you. I know that my physical therapist who was doing myofascial release before and after my spine surgery, made a big difference in my good recovery. Before my spine condition was evident, I was doing MFR working on addressing thoracic outlet syndrome, and I hit a plateau in my recovery. That was when the spinal cord compression was starting to cause similar pain symptoms and my spine was then evaluated. I continued to do this MFR work right up until my spine surgery, but it also took me 2 years before I found a surgeon to help me. My spine surgeon at Mayo commented that my neck muscles felt "loosey goosey" and that was because of MFR , and it helped make all of the muscle easier to retract during surgery. After surgery, there was tight scar tissue to work on and get back to working on the TOS as well as strengthening in rehab.

I checked, and there are a few MFR therapists trained in the John Barnes methods around Madison and you can find them at this site. http://mfrtherapists.com/

This might be something you may want to explore if you are waiting for a proposed surgery.

You may also get a diagnosis of TOS while at Mayo, and you have a lot of symptoms that could be attributed to it. Mayo does have 2 chiropractors who are listed as doing myofascial release in their rehab department, and you may be able to see them after you have your answers from your appointments. I know that recently Mayo sent some physical therapists to a John Barnes MFR training. My PT told me that. It might take several weeks if you are to be scheduled for spine surgery and you could see an MFR therapist while you are back at home and waiting. These are things you could discuss at Mayo based on the findings in your evaluations and it may help you feel better.

Jennifer

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There is a procedure called the X- stop implant, which was invented by Dr. James Zucherman and Ken Hsu and was approved by the FDA in 2005. My understanding this is a minimally invasive procedure for spinal stenosis requiring only local anesthesia. Dr. Zucherman and Dr. Hsu practice in San Francisco, California.

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