Fitness tracker sleep data - extremely low deep sleep.
Broke my old fitness tracker several months ago and finally replaced - new one is more specific. It shows deep sleep between 0 and 8%, light sleep between 60 and 90% and REM between 12% and 36% of the sleep time.
Per the Sleep Foundation a person will typically go through four to six sleep cycles per night. In each cycle, stage 1 (light sleep) is 1 to 7 min, stage 2 (also light sleep) is 10-25 min, stage 3 (deep sleep) is 20-40 min, REM stage is 10-60 min.
Two things of note:
1) I don't seem to have a pattern of cycles at all.
2) I rarely get into the deep sleep stage and when I do, it's far short of that 20-40 minutes.
This is consistent with my feeling severely exhausted even when I wake up and not physically or mentally recovered/refreshed.
I have a CPAP (mild apnea) and it's numbers are reasonable, the AHIs are a bit high (6 to 8, rather than 5 or under), but they bounce a lot.
I'm scheduling my annual exam with my sleep med doctor - it's been 8-9(?) years since my last sleep study, so I will ask if a another is advised. I will also ask about the sleep tracking and cycle business.
I know these fitness trackers aren't medical-grade devices and are subject to error, but this appears way off.
Interested if anyone has seen symptoms similar to this, what diagnostics did their doctors do and what was done for treatment.
Thanks in advance.
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Thanks for your update.
Heading over to apneaboard shortly - I want to see what OSCAR has to say.
I can safely say my therapy isn't working - averaged 6.4 AHIs/hour last week.
I'm pushing for a sleep study ASAP.
Just some odds/ends here...
In Feb 2018, I came down with a sinus infection which went 8 months before diagnosis, then followed up with 6 months of antibiotic and surgery in May 2019 to open my sinuses. I had a nasal mask which didn't work at all (sleep depravation) and I finally got a full face mask in late August so that helped me breathe until the sinuses and nose got functional again.
Since then I've used OTC Fluticasone nasal spray whenever there's the slightest hint of congestion. I've played with humidification vs. sinus dryness - currently running the humidity at 4 and the tube temp at 75 - I had to raise the tube temp to prevent condensation in the tube.
I also use an AirFit F30i mask (also hard on the bridge of my nose) which has nasal pillows but also covers the mouth. That appears to work fine, but I also have to cinch it down fairly snugly (uncomfortably so) to keep it on at night due to movement.
I did as suggested, but after looking at the card's data using OSCAR, it only has the last 2 days data. The past data is gone - poof!
The DME supplier was obviously incorrect. Will recheck w/ them on Monday.
Meanwhile, I have two days worth of data viewable with OSCAR for my use in understanding it.
Update: my supplier was able to access the full data even though the card only had 2 days, I then passed this info on to sleep medicine for their analysis and am now awaiting results and recommendations.
Update: it appears the sleep med team bumped my pressure up from 8 to 9, which didn't help at all. AHIs so far for this month are all over 8, except one over 9 and one just over 5. I'll send them a message.
Looking at the CPAP data via OSCAR, it appears that my AHIs are fairly stable and reasonable (< 5) and then suddenly go crazy for a hour or so a couple times a night, and drop back down to "reasonable". OA events spike to mid 20s-30s during this time along with hyponea events. Flow rate oscillates wildly from - 80 to +110 during these times.
So, the averages look not so bad, but the details appear to tell a different story. This is looking at last night's data which was a better night.
If there is any grouping of OSA in short intervals, it is almost certainly positional. It most often means supine sleeping with the pillow lifting the back of the head and forcing the chin toward the sternum. This closes up the airway somewhat and leads to either complete obstruction or to hypopnea and/or RERA (respiration effort relate arousals). We recommend using a suitable size of soft foam cervical collar that are widely available most anywhere medical supplies and medicines are sold.
Thanks for the suggestion.
I have such a collar - I have disk degeneration in the cervical spine and found it unhelpful for that, but will try it at night. Will also try lowering my pillow height.
Thanks again.
This is interesting and I can imagine that lack of enough of the right sleep could be detrimental to a persons good health. I’m involved with a cancer study thru Vanderbilt University Hsp in Nashville (I had surgery there in 2021 to remove a cancer growth) and I am waiting on a fitness tracker that they said they want me to wear for 12 weeks.
I had the same reaction when I couldn't find an SD card in my machine. I made an appointment with my sleep doctor (responding to a message from NORCO that said I should see my dr. & take the SD card.
I made the appt. and he was mystified, as my newer machine automatically sends the info so NO SD card required. CHECK your machine's name, Number, etc. against the website specs to see if one is really necessary and check with your sleep dr. to be sure you need an appt., etc.