Post COVID - Sinuses fill when I lie down preventing sleep!

Posted by pez @pez, Sep 29, 2023

I had Covid just before Christmas/ end of 2021. Since then I have suffered each night when I lie down with Post Nasal Drip /catarrh. I have not had close to a good night’s sleep now since and it’s really affecting my mood and quality of life.

I have considered and been treated for allergies and feel certain my condition is not a reaction to environmental or seasonal allergy – see below:

I have suffered from hay fever, and cat allergies in the past – resulting in streaming nose and eyes – but a simple antihistamine has dramatically reduced my symptoms. With the catarrh, the predominant symptom appears to be the continuous collection of thick mucus (or whatever it is) from behind my nose which I continuously feel the need to draw down into my throat and swallow as I am lying down. I have also been through ten continuous seasons now, and travelled abroad, with no discernible difference to my symptoms.

Regardless of where I am in the world; pets or no pets; carpet or no carpet; indoors or outdoors; or what medication I take the catarrh persists. So far I have taken courses of loratadine, cetirizine, promethazine, fexofenadine hydrochloride, benadryl, prednisolone, flixonase/fluticasone, montelukast, sterimar nasal solution, dymista and doxycycline.

In addition, I have introduced an air purifier into the bedroom, and a humidifier. I also perform regular nasal washes especially before bed and have tried sleeping propped up.

Any combination of the above may have reduced my symptoms by some 10-20%, but I might just have imagined it as some nights are better than others.

I remain convinced that my condition is somehow Covid related as I did not suffer at all with it before I had Covid in 2021, but I have suffered ever since.

Of course I am keen to resolve this issue as I cannot imagine living with it indefinitely - I am so exhausted by it and the resultant insomnia which is really taking its toll.

It would be great to know I'm not alone with this problem, and of course any shared remedies would be most welcome.

Thank you.

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@biggsy

I too have suffered this condition after having COVID. Try Standard Process (a brand) Antronex. It is a liver detox supplement. When the liver has trouble detoxing, it exacerbates symptoms in the sinuses. I’m a small person, 125 lbs and I took 3 tabs morning and evening until my symptoms were much better (a couple of weeks), then tapered down to just 1 to 2 once or twice a day. This was a MIRACLE worker for me, my symptoms are 90% better, I can now sleep at night without sinus issues. They have a bottle of 330 tabs for $48. You can go to their website and put in your location information and it will list local locations where you can buy this. Please give it a try and post your results back to this list. It worked so well for me, I’m curious to see if it works for others.

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I really wish you all would give the above product I recommended a try. For $48 it isn’t too expensive to try, the bottle lasted me approximately three months. I started a second bottle end of October, just one tablet a day for me now, so this bottle will last me almost a year. My symptoms continued to improve on the second bottle to point of them being back to normal for me…I always had a little bit of sinus issues. But no more Extreme Post Nasal drip, no more sleepless nights due to post nasal drip.

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@pez

Hello again,

So I swapped out the omeprazole for famotidine but it was not strong enough to deal with my acid reflux (I have a hiatus hernia). My doctor said I could take both so I tried that but same same. I also tried introducing the beef liver extract but without a noticeable change - this was all a few weeks ago.

However, just these past few days, things do seem to have shifted slightly away from the quite thick and copious mucus production I have experienced over the past 2 or so years, to something much less in quantity. Has something triggered this? Has it just run it's course? Is it just a lapse? I guess time will tell. I will again report back with any further news.

Thanks again and good luck all with this horrible thing.

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Sadly it didn't last! Back to the usual night time catarrh and lack of sleep! So disappointed.

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@biggsy

I really wish you all would give the above product I recommended a try. For $48 it isn’t too expensive to try, the bottle lasted me approximately three months. I started a second bottle end of October, just one tablet a day for me now, so this bottle will last me almost a year. My symptoms continued to improve on the second bottle to point of them being back to normal for me…I always had a little bit of sinus issues. But no more Extreme Post Nasal drip, no more sleepless nights due to post nasal drip.

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Hello @bigsy. I cannot get the supplement you mention above here in the UK, but I can get Liver Health supplements which I've tried alongside DAO supplements, but will give them another go.

I have an appointment at the Hospital's allergy department today for a full on assessment. I will report back.

Thanks

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@hoser11

All of the symptoms you are talking about I also have and in addition I have a bad case of tinnitus which is extremely irritating I have had nasal surgery with no help in the issue very frustrating and I agree my quality of life is suffering I to as a child had bad allergies or hay fever but have out grown that 2o years ago since I am now 67 years old so I don't know the answer nor does anybody else I am currently in two long haul programs one with Cleveland clinic and one with UC Medical center. Let me know if you come across anything that works.

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Hi @hoser11

I really feel your pain. Not good to hear that the surgery didn't work either. That seems about the only option left to me now. If I find anything that works, I'll be sure to let you know! Good luck.

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@pez

I had Covid just before Christmas/ end of 2021. Since then I have suffered each night when I lie down with Post Nasal Drip /catarrh. I have not had close to a good night’s sleep now since and it’s really affecting my mood and quality of life.

I have considered and been treated for allergies and feel certain my condition is not a reaction to environmental or seasonal allergy – see below:

I have suffered from hay fever, and cat allergies in the past – resulting in streaming nose and eyes – but a simple antihistamine has dramatically reduced my symptoms. With the catarrh, the predominant symptom appears to be the continuous collection of thick mucus (or whatever it is) from behind my nose which I continuously feel the need to draw down into my throat and swallow as I am lying down. I have also been through ten continuous seasons now, and travelled abroad, with no discernible difference to my symptoms.

Regardless of where I am in the world; pets or no pets; carpet or no carpet; indoors or outdoors; or what medication I take the catarrh persists. So far I have taken courses of loratadine, cetirizine, promethazine, fexofenadine hydrochloride, benadryl, prednisolone, flixonase/fluticasone, montelukast, sterimar nasal solution, dymista and doxycycline.

In addition, I have introduced an air purifier into the bedroom, and a humidifier. I also perform regular nasal washes especially before bed and have tried sleeping propped up.

Any combination of the above may have reduced my symptoms by some 10-20%, but I might just have imagined it as some nights are better than others.

I remain convinced that my condition is somehow Covid related as I did not suffer at all with it before I had Covid in 2021, but I have suffered ever since.

Of course I am keen to resolve this issue as I cannot imagine living with it indefinitely – I am so exhausted by it and the resultant insomnia which is really taking its toll. I am SO fed up.

It would be great to know I'm not alone with this problem, and of course any shared remedies would be most welcome.

Thank you.

ps previously posted in ENT before I discovered this page, and have since tried DAO supplements and a low histamine diet to no avail

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It worked temporarily, but he mucous I have, or sinusitis was not gone at that time and still isn't so until that's gone, I don't think the surgery will help.

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@pez

I had Covid just before Christmas/ end of 2021. Since then I have suffered each night when I lie down with Post Nasal Drip /catarrh. I have not had close to a good night’s sleep now since and it’s really affecting my mood and quality of life.

I have considered and been treated for allergies and feel certain my condition is not a reaction to environmental or seasonal allergy – see below:

I have suffered from hay fever, and cat allergies in the past – resulting in streaming nose and eyes – but a simple antihistamine has dramatically reduced my symptoms. With the catarrh, the predominant symptom appears to be the continuous collection of thick mucus (or whatever it is) from behind my nose which I continuously feel the need to draw down into my throat and swallow as I am lying down. I have also been through ten continuous seasons now, and travelled abroad, with no discernible difference to my symptoms.

Regardless of where I am in the world; pets or no pets; carpet or no carpet; indoors or outdoors; or what medication I take the catarrh persists. So far I have taken courses of loratadine, cetirizine, promethazine, fexofenadine hydrochloride, benadryl, prednisolone, flixonase/fluticasone, montelukast, sterimar nasal solution, dymista and doxycycline.

In addition, I have introduced an air purifier into the bedroom, and a humidifier. I also perform regular nasal washes especially before bed and have tried sleeping propped up.

Any combination of the above may have reduced my symptoms by some 10-20%, but I might just have imagined it as some nights are better than others.

I remain convinced that my condition is somehow Covid related as I did not suffer at all with it before I had Covid in 2021, but I have suffered ever since.

Of course I am keen to resolve this issue as I cannot imagine living with it indefinitely – I am so exhausted by it and the resultant insomnia which is really taking its toll. I am SO fed up.

It would be great to know I'm not alone with this problem, and of course any shared remedies would be most welcome.

Thank you.

ps previously posted in ENT before I discovered this page, and have since tried DAO supplements and a low histamine diet to no avail

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OK so early days, but I think SOLVED.

Are you taking Effexor / Venlafaxine. I am 300mg/daily.

Its not a reported side effect other than anecdotally, BUT having tapered my venlafaxine down to 150mg over a two week period I am now almost without the night time sinus problems. I would go lower but I'm dealing with big life stuff right now so don't want to drop much further for a while.

I though it was covid, but I started the venlafaxine at much the same time. I wonder if I'm not alone in this as there's very little out there to support my findings, but the symptoms are 90% better and I would imagine evn better if I could reduce the dose further.

If you are on Venlafaxine and considering reducing I found this amazing calculator to do it. Go for Hyperbolic tapering and I went for 18 months to reduce the likelihood of withdrawal , but you will see that the big doses come down quickly and the low doses peter out uber slowly.
https://drugtaper.com/
I hope this helps someone else!!

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Are you taking Effexor / Venlafaxine. I am 300mg/daily.

OK so early days, but I think SOLVED.

Its not a reported side effect other than anecdotally, BUT having tapered my venlafaxine down to 150mg over a two week period I am now almost without the night time sinus problems. I would go lower but I'm dealing with big life stuff right now so don't want to drop much further for a while.

I though it was covid, but I started the venlafaxine at much the same time. I wonder if I'm not alone in this as there's very little out there to support my findings, but the symptoms are 90% better and I would imagine evn better if I could reduce the dose further.

If you are on Venlafaxine and considering reducing I found this amazing calculator to do it. Go for Hyperbolic tapering and I went for 18 months to reduce the likelihood of withdrawal , but you will see that the big doses come down quickly and the low doses peter out uber slowly.
https://drugtaper.com/

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