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Undecided choice of drugs for Osteoporosis

Posted by peace44 @peace44, Oct 10, 2023

I am 80 years old women and have borderline osteoporosis which affects my entire body. My doctor wants me to take Prolia and the Rheumatologist wants me to take Reclast. I’m unhappy with both choices as the side effects are great and I do not tolerate new drugs well. I am very undecided and am considering doing not taking annty drugs for this condition. I have never had a fracture and I’m very active Any opinions or advice.

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koleke | @koleke | Oct 26, 2023
In reply to @peace44 "Thanks for your information. My close friend became color blind using Fosomax and she advised against..." + (show)
@peace44

Thanks for your information. My close friend became color blind using Fosomax and she advised against it. It took a year for her to see colors again. She is now on Prolia without any side effects. I’m skeptical of all Osteo drugs as I’m 80 years old. I’m still very undecided.

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I quit taking fosamax after three years and a minimal amount of bone gain. Currently taking collagen and it's helped me about the same as fosamax in a year. I'm
opting for collagen and weight bearing exercise for now.
Best of luck to you .

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ymv | @ymv | Oct 26, 2023
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@darlas1967

I just posted on another chat about this but am looking for more info. I’m 56. I had a RTHR in 2020 and am fixen to do the left. Surgeon in 2020 said my hip or thigh bone was brittle amd he had to wrap wire around it to help hold it together with prosthetic. I have OA and OP. I have a good pcp but he’s seems to be lacking a bit when it comes to completely informing me as to my situation. As I don’t know numbers or medication choices or even supplements. I have had a bone density test
Done. I suppose to be
Key word there taking fosamax but have a problem with being regular and consistent with my meds. Assistant told me she thought I should be taking a vitamin D supplement with the fosamax which that's the first I’ve heard of it.

I read where Fosamax is hard on the thigh bones, and you can have breakage without injury that’s concerning to me. I also read where there’s a Lotta joint pain with it. That’s also concerning to me.

What should I do? Ask dr I suppose more specific questions and take notes cause I tend to not retain information to well. What med is right
For me what supplements etc?

Thank you in advance for any advice and god bless and keep
You
All healthy.

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My physician recommended 1200 mg of calcium taken in 400-500 mg at a time for proper absorption. Also vitamin D 5,000 iu with vitamin K (I use Seeking Health brand) once a day with food. Also Magnesium 150 mg twice a day. Your doctor should be checking PNP and CTX (bone marker ) levels as well as PTH (parathyroid hormone) levels. Yes Fosamax can cause femur fractures.

I was on Fosamax for several years followed by Reclast for 5 years. Then a drug holiday until my Dexa in 2021 showed severe OP. I started Prolia. 1 year into Prolia I had a femur fracture. This winter I had 2 spontaneous and unusual fractures. Started Tymlos in June.

Wishing you all the best

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peace44 | @peace44 | Oct 26, 2023
In reply to @koleke "I quit taking fosamax after three years and a minimal amount of bone gain. Currently taking..." + (show)
@koleke

I quit taking fosamax after three years and a minimal amount of bone gain. Currently taking collagen and it's helped me about the same as fosamax in a year. I'm
opting for collagen and weight bearing exercise for now.
Best of luck to you .

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I appreciate your response. You are the first not to push any drugs after your fosamax. I received Dr. K. McCormick book on the whole body approach. As I am 80 I really feel at this age it’s not safe to add additional drugs to my body. I’ve considered collegian which may or may not be effective, but that’s ok. I’m still proceeding along in my research. Thanks.

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windyshores | @windyshores | Oct 26, 2023
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@peace44

I appreciate your response. You are the first not to push any drugs after your fosamax. I received Dr. K. McCormick book on the whole body approach. As I am 80 I really feel at this age it’s not safe to add additional drugs to my body. I’ve considered collegian which may or may not be effective, but that’s ok. I’m still proceeding along in my research. Thanks.

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@peace44 McCormick has a new book out called "Great Bones." You can get it online.

McCormick wrote the "Whole Body Approach to Osteoporosis" but also writes that he himself did meds after fractures. He always recommends meds for me, no doubt at all.

Dr. Lani Simpson, another proponent of natural approaches, went on Tymlos around the time I did, I believe.

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peace44 | @peace44 | Oct 26, 2023

I have the Whole Body Approach as I didn’t realize there was another book. I’ll read it since I just bought it but I don’t think I’ll be taking any drugs. I’m keeping an open mind so I’ll wait and see. Thanks for your input.

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windyshores | @windyshores | Oct 27, 2023
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@peace44

I have the Whole Body Approach as I didn’t realize there was another book. I’ll read it since I just bought it but I don’t think I’ll be taking any drugs. I’m keeping an open mind so I’ll wait and see. Thanks for your input.

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@peace44 "Great Bones" is 700 pages and has updated the info in the first book.

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bobbiruni | @bobbiruni | Oct 27, 2023
In reply to @peace44 "Thanks for your information. My close friend became color blind using Fosomax and she advised against..." + (show)
@peace44

Thanks for your information. My close friend became color blind using Fosomax and she advised against it. It took a year for her to see colors again. She is now on Prolia without any side effects. I’m skeptical of all Osteo drugs as I’m 80 years old. I’m still very undecided.

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I just turned 74 yrs old. My doctor prescribed Fosamax for OP. I took one dose the first morning and had a "strange" diarrhea later that day. I have now researched and read reviews on Google as well as reports of people on this format (thank you Mao Connect for this awesome website!). I am shocked that the side effects include causation of thigh bone breakage and brittle bones. My heart goes out to the people who have had jawbone deterioration and teeth breaking off after being on Fosamax for years.
I have decided to forego the Fosamax. I plan to include bone broth and Andrew Lessman's Marine Collagen in my diet, as well as the supplements Vit K in form of MK-7, dicalcium maltrate, magnesium, D3, and boron (helps absorption of calcium). I just found a supplement called Calciven that contains all those. I am walking everyday and plan to have a bone density test in a year to monitor any progress.
I am thankful to all who have shared their experience and info. I wish everyone a blessed journey.

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bbones2023 | @bbones2023 | Oct 27, 2023
In reply to @bobbiruni "I just turned 74 yrs old. My doctor prescribed Fosamax for OP. I took one dose..." + (show)
@bobbiruni

I just turned 74 yrs old. My doctor prescribed Fosamax for OP. I took one dose the first morning and had a "strange" diarrhea later that day. I have now researched and read reviews on Google as well as reports of people on this format (thank you Mao Connect for this awesome website!). I am shocked that the side effects include causation of thigh bone breakage and brittle bones. My heart goes out to the people who have had jawbone deterioration and teeth breaking off after being on Fosamax for years.
I have decided to forego the Fosamax. I plan to include bone broth and Andrew Lessman's Marine Collagen in my diet, as well as the supplements Vit K in form of MK-7, dicalcium maltrate, magnesium, D3, and boron (helps absorption of calcium). I just found a supplement called Calciven that contains all those. I am walking everyday and plan to have a bone density test in a year to monitor any progress.
I am thankful to all who have shared their experience and info. I wish everyone a blessed journey.

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I think you have become a hero to me.

The best of luck!

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peace44 | @peace44 | Oct 27, 2023
In reply to @bobbiruni "I just turned 74 yrs old. My doctor prescribed Fosamax for OP. I took one dose..." + (show)
@bobbiruni

I just turned 74 yrs old. My doctor prescribed Fosamax for OP. I took one dose the first morning and had a "strange" diarrhea later that day. I have now researched and read reviews on Google as well as reports of people on this format (thank you Mao Connect for this awesome website!). I am shocked that the side effects include causation of thigh bone breakage and brittle bones. My heart goes out to the people who have had jawbone deterioration and teeth breaking off after being on Fosamax for years.
I have decided to forego the Fosamax. I plan to include bone broth and Andrew Lessman's Marine Collagen in my diet, as well as the supplements Vit K in form of MK-7, dicalcium maltrate, magnesium, D3, and boron (helps absorption of calcium). I just found a supplement called Calciven that contains all those. I am walking everyday and plan to have a bone density test in a year to monitor any progress.
I am thankful to all who have shared their experience and info. I wish everyone a blessed journey.

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Thank for your encouraging reply. I’m 80 and have definitely decided not to take long term drugs. Two doctors trying for prolia and Reclast. I’m going to keep your information and follow a similar plan. I will check out Calciven Thanks for all the research and I am very appreciate.

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bobbiruni | @bobbiruni | Oct 27, 2023

I am thinking that even with meds organic free range chicken bone broth and grass-fed beef broth will help deliver collagen that is easily absorbed into the bones. From what I read boron helps direct calcium to the bones and away from accumulation in the artery walls. Many calcium supplements may not have boron.

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