Has anyone had the 2023 updated Covid shot?

Posted by lovesgreys @lovesgreys, Oct 18, 2023

Does anyone have experience with the new booster shot? If so, what has been your experience? My intergrative doctor said the booster shot will be hard on my body right now. She also said getting sick would be the same. Her treatments are helping me, and I'm improving. I don't want a shot to set me back, but also don't want Covid, which would also set me back, plus - well, Covid. I'm trying to decide whether or not to get it. I'm up on all of my shots until now. I've had LC for a year. I would love to hear if anyone has gotten the shot, and how it's affected them.

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@denglish19

HeyJoe,

It's really quite simple. People in the middle of long haul have a very taxed immune system. Simple as that. Their body is in "fight or flight" mode (when at their worst), and the body already has very high levels of inflammation and high histamine levels too. So, getting a vaccine would introduce yet another factor that may exacerbate these symptoms.

When I was 10 years old my birthday party was cancelled because I was sick and had a fever. My mom took me into the doctor. The nurses there thought it would be a great idea to give me my 10 year booster shots (keep in mind, I already had a fever). They gave me several, after which my body started shaking uncontrollably. My pediatrician was furious. He had to be called to the office from the hospital. At that time, it was really obvious that you don't give immunizations to people who are already sick. Lately, it seems that simple (common sense) insight has been forgotten.

Post-Covid lockdown it seems that if you've shown up at the doctor they decide to give you every last thing they can, all at the same time. Covid boosters, flu shots, pneumonia, shingles vaccines etc. And yes! Even while people are in the midst of long haul, with a very taxed and broken down immune system. Without knowing what the actual result will be -- no thank you!

Let's use a bit of common sense... Covid vaccinations DO NOT prevent the illness, nor do they prevent long haul -- the claim is that they only prevent the most severe cases of Covid, hospitalization and death. I received the initial doses, when Covid was at its worst. But am I, as an otherwise healthy 40 year old woman (who healed long haul on my own!), at risk for a *very serious case* of Covid and hospitalization? I don't think so. The current strains are very very mild, as shown by many people who have had Covid recently.

Another friend of mine, her 4 year old daughter went into the doctor post-Covid lockdown and since she hadn't been seen for a long time they did that exact thing -- gave her WAY too many vaccinations/boosters all at the same time -- multiple doses in each arm and leg (similar to what happened to me at age 10). That little girl went immediately into a coma type state, had a serious infection that surpassed the blood/brain barrier, and had/has serious brain damage for which she has been in many types of therapy for several years!

So, all I'm saying is that people should use their own common sense. Why does anyone need a booster who is otherwise healthy and stable? Oh and I have a friend in heart failure too, from the Covid vaccinations -- a previously healthy 42 year old, long distance runner, who now has permanent heart damage for which there is "nothing they can do". Was it worth it for him to take the vaccination?

I healed my own long haul within 4-6 months and NOT with the help of any regular doctor. I did my own research. I used common sense. I looked at the root cause of the problem. So yes, I feel very comfortable in my own assessment and research, intuition and common sense. But of course, everyone is free to make their own decision!

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Hello Denglish, I am wondering what was helpful for you. I agree, everyone has to make their own decisions on what feels right for them. We all have unique systems, some have genetic issues with methylation and detoxification. The research is there, not sure why there is a one size fits all recommendation anymore, it can be a very complicated decision for some.

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would you mind sharing the treatments that are working for you? thank you

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@aldersage

would you mind sharing the treatments that are working for you? thank you

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Sure! Just FYI - I fully healed from long haul more than a year ago. I was only at my worst about a month or two, then took matters into my own hands... I was back to work full time after 6 months and then cautiously watched/maintained my energy levels (no over-exertion) for about a year.

I came back to the forums because I realized people are still suffering greatly, and it is horrific to watch when the baseline, root causes aren't being treated. It's simple to eat an anti-inflammatory, low histamine diet, among other things... I'm actually writing up my personal protocol and would be happy to share it once it is complete.

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@lovesgreys

I appreciate your insight. I’m not anti vax at all. I’ve gotten every Covid vaccine as soon as they came out, and I intended to get this one. Why does my doctor think this will tax my system too much? It’s what she believes. However, she didn’t tell me not to get it. She said I should do what makes me comfortable. I’m just asking what people’s experiences have been to see if people are getting worse from the vaccine.

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That makes sense. I do know of people who have long haul symptoms from the vaccinations themselves. If you read the forums long enough (hours upon hours, like I did) you will certainly see cases like this... But some people also appear to heal from long haul by getting a booster. (Though they often decline again after a few weeks.) So, it's a mystery. But since I am recovered from long haul, and have rid myself of heart palpitations (which I had for a year +), I will not take the risk.

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@denglish19

Sure! Just FYI - I fully healed from long haul more than a year ago. I was only at my worst about a month or two, then took matters into my own hands... I was back to work full time after 6 months and then cautiously watched/maintained my energy levels (no over-exertion) for about a year.

I came back to the forums because I realized people are still suffering greatly, and it is horrific to watch when the baseline, root causes aren't being treated. It's simple to eat an anti-inflammatory, low histamine diet, among other things... I'm actually writing up my personal protocol and would be happy to share it once it is complete.

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Thank you so much, happy to hear you have healed yoursself. I would love to hear your protocol when you have finished it, thank you!!!

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@denglish19

HeyJoe,

It's really quite simple. People in the middle of long haul have a very taxed immune system. Simple as that. Their body is in "fight or flight" mode (when at their worst), and the body already has very high levels of inflammation and high histamine levels too. So, getting a vaccine would introduce yet another factor that may exacerbate these symptoms.

When I was 10 years old my birthday party was cancelled because I was sick and had a fever. My mom took me into the doctor. The nurses there thought it would be a great idea to give me my 10 year booster shots (keep in mind, I already had a fever). They gave me several, after which my body started shaking uncontrollably. My pediatrician was furious. He had to be called to the office from the hospital. At that time, it was really obvious that you don't give immunizations to people who are already sick. Lately, it seems that simple (common sense) insight has been forgotten.

Post-Covid lockdown it seems that if you've shown up at the doctor they decide to give you every last thing they can, all at the same time. Covid boosters, flu shots, pneumonia, shingles vaccines etc. And yes! Even while people are in the midst of long haul, with a very taxed and broken down immune system. Without knowing what the actual result will be -- no thank you!

Let's use a bit of common sense... Covid vaccinations DO NOT prevent the illness, nor do they prevent long haul -- the claim is that they only prevent the most severe cases of Covid, hospitalization and death. I received the initial doses, when Covid was at its worst. But am I, as an otherwise healthy 40 year old woman (who healed long haul on my own!), at risk for a *very serious case* of Covid and hospitalization? I don't think so. The current strains are very very mild, as shown by many people who have had Covid recently.

Another friend of mine, her 4 year old daughter went into the doctor post-Covid lockdown and since she hadn't been seen for a long time they did that exact thing -- gave her WAY too many vaccinations/boosters all at the same time -- multiple doses in each arm and leg (similar to what happened to me at age 10). That little girl went immediately into a coma type state, had a serious infection that surpassed the blood/brain barrier, and had/has serious brain damage for which she has been in many types of therapy for several years!

So, all I'm saying is that people should use their own common sense. Why does anyone need a booster who is otherwise healthy and stable? Oh and I have a friend in heart failure too, from the Covid vaccinations -- a previously healthy 42 year old, long distance runner, who now has permanent heart damage for which there is "nothing they can do". Was it worth it for him to take the vaccination?

I healed my own long haul within 4-6 months and NOT with the help of any regular doctor. I did my own research. I used common sense. I looked at the root cause of the problem. So yes, I feel very comfortable in my own assessment and research, intuition and common sense. But of course, everyone is free to make their own decision!

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denglish19
Your first paragraph is exactly what my doctor is talking about. The other consideration is that I’ve had the initial shot & every booster, plus Covid. She believes that I already have all of the antibodies I need to fight Covid.

Now I’m trying to wrap my head around the thought of not getting an available vaccine. It’s so helpful to hear from all of you.

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@denglish19

Sure! Just FYI - I fully healed from long haul more than a year ago. I was only at my worst about a month or two, then took matters into my own hands... I was back to work full time after 6 months and then cautiously watched/maintained my energy levels (no over-exertion) for about a year.

I came back to the forums because I realized people are still suffering greatly, and it is horrific to watch when the baseline, root causes aren't being treated. It's simple to eat an anti-inflammatory, low histamine diet, among other things... I'm actually writing up my personal protocol and would be happy to share it once it is complete.

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I would love to read your protocol.

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@heyjoe415

Not getting vaxxed is certainly your choice. When the vaccine first became available, I had one friend (age 64, overweight) absolutely refuse to get the shot. He died from Covid two weeks after contracting it. He had all kinds of conspiracy theories supporting his decision to not get vaxxed, and die.

I'm not sure why you are concerned that the covid booster would "tax your immune system". That's what vaccines do - they tax and reinforce the immune system for a particular virus. Did you skip vaccines for measles, mumps, TB, seasonal flu for the same reason?

I don't mean to be critical. It's your decision after all. I don't understand why the covid vaccine is subject to so much scrutiny/indecision versus other vaccines. I'd rather take the small risk than wait 10 years for all risks to be identified, during which time I might die from the disease anyway.

I haven't read anything suggesting that people with LC are more at risk from the current booster. Doesn't mean it's impossible. I just haven't seen the results from any studies.

All the best to you. Have a safe and healthy winter!

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I’m 100% with Joe. Not getting this latest booster has the potential to do you much greater harm than having a normal immune response to the vax for 24-48 hours.

You are vulnerable when unvaccinated. Your chances of exacerbating your current LC symptoms from another infection are far worse than side effects from the vaccine. The two are not the same. The vaccine builds up your immune system. Strengthens it. Trains it to fight. A Covid infection tears your immune system to shreds. You pay for it for months, years. To me, this is a no brainer decision.

I would seek a second opinion. Your doctor sounds uninformed. I’m sorry if this comes off as harsh, but staying updated on the vaccines will keep you out of the hospital and out of the morgue. No, they do not prevent infection. But they prevent a lot of other truly horrible things.

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I received the booster 4 days ago. Stay tuned so far so good. I actually got the booster to see if it would possibly help with the nasal drip.

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@sushicat

I’m 100% with Joe. Not getting this latest booster has the potential to do you much greater harm than having a normal immune response to the vax for 24-48 hours.

You are vulnerable when unvaccinated. Your chances of exacerbating your current LC symptoms from another infection are far worse than side effects from the vaccine. The two are not the same. The vaccine builds up your immune system. Strengthens it. Trains it to fight. A Covid infection tears your immune system to shreds. You pay for it for months, years. To me, this is a no brainer decision.

I would seek a second opinion. Your doctor sounds uninformed. I’m sorry if this comes off as harsh, but staying updated on the vaccines will keep you out of the hospital and out of the morgue. No, they do not prevent infection. But they prevent a lot of other truly horrible things.

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Thanks sushicat. In the vast majority of cases, vaccinations approved by the FDA help people and the larger population. And the vaccines don't just diminish the effects of catching the virus. They can prevent catching the virus in the first place. Both are good reasons to get vaxxed IMO.

I do agree with denglish19 that a person with an infection should wait on a vaccine, and I think people are told/asked this before a vaccination is administered. It's also good to remember that the vaccine can't give you the disease it protects against. But yeah if your immune system is already taxed with, say a cold virus, wait until that has passed before getting vaxxed.

Fortunately, and largely thanks to the Covid vaccinations, current strains of Covid are milder. The vaccinations gave the virus fewer places to spread and so weakened the virus. Even non-vaxxers ave benefitted from all the people who did get the vaccine.

As for whether an otherwise healthy person under 65 should get the vax, any vax, up to them I guess. These vaccines have all been tested, and there are RARE occasions where the vaccination does harm. The benefits outweigh the risks IMO.

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