Looking for tips handling toileting needs for wheelchair bound

Posted by jzs @jzs, Sep 30, 2023

New here and not sure this is the right group. My husband is a cancer patient, 3 years remission. He has extensive nerve damage of undiagnosed source and cannot walk or stand. Long appointments for multiple scans etc, are a nightmare to plan since he cannot go to the restroom by himself and I am not strong enough to hold him up. I wonder how other care givers handle this. Depending on adult diapers seems less than ideal. I guess I am looking for a magical solution. Thanks for any helpful ideas.

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Greetings @jzs. Welcome to Connect. You have presented a significant concern, I began my relationship with Connect as a Caregiver for my life partner through his battle with prostate surgery and follow-up 30-day radiation. As I recall, there were staff members to help him throughout his time at the hospital. They also provide you with a team member by phone 24 hours a day when you need some help from home. I required help to understand and be able to handle a urine blockage or other post-surgery issues.

Have you asked for assistance during your visits? After the surgery, one of the nurses was starting to show him how to give himself injections. When I heard him screaming..........from his room, I walked in and told them that I, too was giving myself daily injections so I could help him. They then included me when instruction was necessary.

Actually, the magic was the way in which our relationship developed during the surgery and treatments.

May you and your husband be safe, free, and protected from inner and outer harm.
Chris

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When I was in a wheelchair for 6 months, toileting was about the most humbling part of my ordeal. In just 10 days, my sudden Neuropathy took my legs and my hands, so I had to be lifted onto the toilet and wiped when done. I have never been so appreciative of medical assistants in my life for doing that! But I was in a rehab home. These people were trained to do the job, and sometimes it took 2 people and they had belts/tools to help. It was the extensive PT over 5 weeks in the facility that made it such where I could safely transfer myself (with bars) from wheelchair to toilet. PT was able to help get wiping ability back too to a manageable degree. At home, I needed to continue PT (and have a caregiver present) to regain as much more strength and ability that I could. Toileting by myself was my #1 motivation, even before feeding myself. I can only guess your husband would love to be independent as possible too. Is in home care and/or PT an option to help bridge the gap while he gets through this challenging period and work to maintain and improve strength & balance? Thinking of you both and praying for quick recovery.

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@jzs
I don't think there are any magical answers.
Although not always ideal, he might try a condom catheter with a leg bag when out or sitting in a wheelchair at home. Indweling catheters another option but they often cause infections if sterile procedures aren't observed.
They also have single-use indwelling catheters when needed. I don't like indwelling catheters because they may increase bladder cancer as happened to my dad between the catheters irritating the bladder and risk increasing if an infection is present.
Toiliting wheelchairs are available and can are wheeled over the toilet if able to transfer to one. If unable to lift or transfer, a lift like a house lift with a sling with a hole is available.
The options I mentioned are from many years back when my dad was paralyzed from the neck down.
Perhaps an Occupational therapist may have other options. Have you sought advice from a Urologist or other specialists who deal in bladder and bowel care?
Take care,
Jake

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When I was in a wheelchair for 6 months, toileting was about the most humbling part of my ordeal. In just 10 days, my sudden Neuropathy took my legs and my hands, so I had to be lifted onto the toilet and wiped when done. I have never been so appreciative of medical assistants in my life for doing that! But I was in a rehab home. These people were trained to do the job, and sometimes it took 2 people and they had belts/tools to help. It was the extensive PT over 5 weeks in the facility that made it such where I could safely transfer myself (with bars) from wheelchair to toilet. PT was able to help get wiping ability back too to a manageable degree. At home, I needed to continue PT (and have a caregiver present) to regain as much more strength and ability that I could. Toileting by myself was my #1 motivation, even before feeding myself. I can only guess your husband would love to be independent as possible too. Is in home care and/or PT an option to help bridge the gap while he gets through this challenging period and work to maintain and improve strength & balance? Thinking of you both and praying for quick recovery.

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That’s one of the most degrading issues I have had in the past.
Being unable to clean yourself after having a bm was very hard for me.
I was embarassed even with my husband doing it.
I could sense how repulsed he was when I would have a very messy stool or diarrhea.
The best thing I did was get a toilet seat that cleanses you with water and even has a dryer mode.
I bought it on Amazon and it’s the best thing I ever did.
Lately I’ve been having severe cramping and diarrhea episodes after eating dinner sometimes.
I never know what the culprit is, and when it will strike.
As a result I’m afraid to go out and eat too far from home for fear of an accident.
I can’t imagine being out somewhere and having an episode.
I have done some testing for celiac disease, and some malabsorption diseases.
So far they were negative, even stool testing I did.
I do have an appt at my gastroenterologist next week to discuss results.
Hope she has some answers for me.
I did have emergency surgery last Nov for a tear in my intestine, and this was when this started,months after the surgery.

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Neuropathy can have an impact on your bladder, and digestive system. They have nerves that are impacted too, depending on what type of neuropathy you have. You can read about autonomic neuropathy.
I have unpredictable bowels these days. So I carry that “poo-pouri” deodorizing spray in my purse, and sometimes remember a small pack of wipes.

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That’s one of the most degrading issues I have had in the past.
Being unable to clean yourself after having a bm was very hard for me.
I was embarassed even with my husband doing it.
I could sense how repulsed he was when I would have a very messy stool or diarrhea.
The best thing I did was get a toilet seat that cleanses you with water and even has a dryer mode.
I bought it on Amazon and it’s the best thing I ever did.
Lately I’ve been having severe cramping and diarrhea episodes after eating dinner sometimes.
I never know what the culprit is, and when it will strike.
As a result I’m afraid to go out and eat too far from home for fear of an accident.
I can’t imagine being out somewhere and having an episode.
I have done some testing for celiac disease, and some malabsorption diseases.
So far they were negative, even stool testing I did.
I do have an appt at my gastroenterologist next week to discuss results.
Hope she has some answers for me.
I did have emergency surgery last Nov for a tear in my intestine, and this was when this started,months after the surgery.

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Thank you soooooo much for your comment. Have been seriously looking into the bidet addition for months now, wondering if the toilet seat versions might work as well as the standalones available to us when growing up in Europe. Am told eventually may be in the same boat, and not all bathrooms in the US are large enough to accommodate the standalones.

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I got the VOVO Smart Elongated toilet seat with many options
Look up VOVO site, mine was $399.00 and came with a remote control.

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Neuropathy can have an impact on your bladder, and digestive system. They have nerves that are impacted too, depending on what type of neuropathy you have. You can read about autonomic neuropathy.
I have unpredictable bowels these days. So I carry that “poo-pouri” deodorizing spray in my purse, and sometimes remember a small pack of wipes.

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Me too, I always carry wipes and baby powder plus pads.
You can never be too safe, especially when I can’t feel the need to go at times due to my neuropathy.

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When I was in a wheelchair for 6 months, toileting was about the most humbling part of my ordeal. In just 10 days, my sudden Neuropathy took my legs and my hands, so I had to be lifted onto the toilet and wiped when done. I have never been so appreciative of medical assistants in my life for doing that! But I was in a rehab home. These people were trained to do the job, and sometimes it took 2 people and they had belts/tools to help. It was the extensive PT over 5 weeks in the facility that made it such where I could safely transfer myself (with bars) from wheelchair to toilet. PT was able to help get wiping ability back too to a manageable degree. At home, I needed to continue PT (and have a caregiver present) to regain as much more strength and ability that I could. Toileting by myself was my #1 motivation, even before feeding myself. I can only guess your husband would love to be independent as possible too. Is in home care and/or PT an option to help bridge the gap while he gets through this challenging period and work to maintain and improve strength & balance? Thinking of you both and praying for quick recovery.

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I agree about the humility and gratitude involved in needing help toileting, in getting on a toilet from a wheelchair and back again.
Some “accessible” stalls are still too tight for an easy transfer. However, an inexpensive wooden slide board, recommended by a PT, was very helpful for months in helping me transfer from a wheelchair (with movable arms) to a toilet and back. I still needed help from my husband in getting pants up and down, but have managed more on my own recently—without the slide board or my husband with me. This is where PT and upper body strength have helped me as well.
Thanks for opening an issue that is most often hidden in dealing with a loss of mobility—the need for a wheelchair for managing distances, and then needing help with what used to be a private bodily function.

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@lacy2 About your concerns about increased bladder infections if you use a bidet. I worry about that also , so I simply don’t use the washer that sprays this area.
@harley22 I have both one of those expensive toilet seats and one of the cheap little models they sell on Amazon. The cheap one washes better when using on the rear b/c of the increased water pressure it allows. However you MUST adjust the pressure on these by turning the back nozzle that says something like “ self cleaning nozzle”. For some reason it adjusts the water pressure too, so that you don’t get terribly high pressure. I’ve been using these for years and just found this out! As for the expensive bidets, I just find that the water pressure is too weak for effective cleaning on the two models I have used though the hotter water helps and they are wonderfully comfortable! Perhaps there is something I don’t know about these expensive models, but in my experience, they both seem to only allow only a weak water pressure.

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