Long Term Covid articles - MUST READS

Posted by summerof42 @summerof42, Aug 26, 2023

The priceless information below is something that ALL physicians need to be reading to better understand, acknowledge and support their patients. I've been suffering for 3 yrs now, currently very ill and down to 90 lbs, 30+ horrible symptoms, can barely function and in horrific pain all over my body. I know I can't go on much longer and sadly, I can't find any doctor to help me. I love life so much, but this is so very hard.

I want to help others and if we make every effort to provide this information and link to the doctors, including Mayo, maybe we can get the help we need. For me, it's too late and too much damage in my body.

https://hms.harvard.edu/news/most-important-question-about-long-covid

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Post-COVID Recovery & COVID-19 Support Group.

@laja

I dont know if this will help but have you tried to see a FUNCTIONAL MEDICINE Dr? Conventional med dr's will not help you. They only treat symptoms and wont try to figure out why things are the way they are. If it can't be seen on an xray, MRI or simple typical blood tests, they will not keep digging. There is a lot of info out there now about long covid being a MAST CELL issue. Find a functional medicine dr and see if they will help with certain antihistamines (not benadryl) and low dose anti inflammatory meds like Naltrexone which is used in low doses for post viral inflammation. I am only 11 weeks in to my meds (Ketotifen 1 mg every 12 hours and Naltexone 4.5 mg nightly before bed) but I know so many people that are bedridden from long covid and these meds seem to at least help me feed myself and keep house. Believe me I am NOT healthy like I was before. I was on a horse drill team with teenagers prior to getting long covid and I cannot do that now but I am at least 40% functioning. There is no way I could work if I were still nursing at the hospital though. My body is in too much pain with the muscle cramps and skin burning to be able to focus on a job. My heart pounds 50% of the day but my dr Rx'd Low dose Ativan 0.25 mg for that and it helps a little. It also helps with the tremors and the skin burning. It's not perfect by no means. There are moments where the med fails but the majority of my day is no longer filled with contemplating suicide.

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Thank you for advice on what to do

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@laja

I dont know if this will help but have you tried to see a FUNCTIONAL MEDICINE Dr? Conventional med dr's will not help you. They only treat symptoms and wont try to figure out why things are the way they are. If it can't be seen on an xray, MRI or simple typical blood tests, they will not keep digging. There is a lot of info out there now about long covid being a MAST CELL issue. Find a functional medicine dr and see if they will help with certain antihistamines (not benadryl) and low dose anti inflammatory meds like Naltrexone which is used in low doses for post viral inflammation. I am only 11 weeks in to my meds (Ketotifen 1 mg every 12 hours and Naltexone 4.5 mg nightly before bed) but I know so many people that are bedridden from long covid and these meds seem to at least help me feed myself and keep house. Believe me I am NOT healthy like I was before. I was on a horse drill team with teenagers prior to getting long covid and I cannot do that now but I am at least 40% functioning. There is no way I could work if I were still nursing at the hospital though. My body is in too much pain with the muscle cramps and skin burning to be able to focus on a job. My heart pounds 50% of the day but my dr Rx'd Low dose Ativan 0.25 mg for that and it helps a little. It also helps with the tremors and the skin burning. It's not perfect by no means. There are moments where the med fails but the majority of my day is no longer filled with contemplating suicide.

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When you say skin burning, is it like a prickly burning feeling? Did you ever feel it inside your mouth?
I had very bad covid and took months for all symptoms to go away, but a year later, a life event stressed me so badly that I started to have very bad symptoms and have for months now. I’m convinced the virus living dormant has taken up with another and I’m as you were wondering how long I can live like this.
I have to find a functional med dr. The ones I’ve seen are useless. Completely useless.

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@arichards3

@summerof42

I began experiencing my symptoms in November '21 after my first Moderna booster and proceeded to go through every specialist in and around Charleston, SC. My Doctors called it "the journey of what it's not", and in reflection it is astounding (now that I have been to Mayo and experienced their knowledge) the lack of understanding medical professionals here have. They are trying, but they don't truly understand the problem thus the path to wellness.

In reflection my biggest learning is the practice of moderation which Mayo preaches. When I read posts I don't find anyone mentioning moderation as central to recovery and wellness. One medical professional said to me "you need to act like you had a heart attack and follow a very strict recovery plan". Another said "you need to act like you were an athlete and you were injured and follow a specific plan to return to your prior athletic performance". I, not knowing any better during the first 6 months of 2023 was exercising 6 of 7 days 45 minutes aerobic (cardio and resistance) exercise and would crash afterwards not understanding that I was driving myself backwards because of not moderating!! Today as part of my recovery plan (my plan includes many other elements thanks to Mayo direction) I am at 10 minutes of recumbent bike and am beginning to feel better.

I truly hope you find a plan that gets you to wellness. If you haven't been to the Mayo Clinic and can I highly recommend it, for me they were the only ones who understood the problem and have set me on a path to recovery and wellness again.

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YES, I'm being seen by OHSU Long CoVid Clinic. My PCP told me to go back to work part time, 4 hours a day and I'd be able to work my stamina and strength back up over time. Wrong advice. I knew it was wrong when he told me, but you need a doctors note for medical leave and a job for medical insurance. I suffered every day. Crashed every week, Was sent home often as my manager could see my pain in my face and body motions.
9 months later I finally am able to be seen at OHSU Long CoVid Clinic and the first thing I'm told is that I'm doing too much.. And it is stressed by both my doctor and physical therapist that staying under, well under my energy threshold is the only way my body can heal. Literally, self care such as eating, showering, dressing and taking a walk 3 times a week for 10 minutes taking breaks every 1-2 minutes and keeping my heart rate between 90-110 is all they want me to do. If I can go a month without crashing, she tells me than they can start building me back up, but it will be at an incrementally slow pace and still take a year to two years. Pacing is key.

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@dloos

I don’t think I can get to Mayo. I wish I could.
I do feel totally misunderstood by the many, many doctors I have seen. Seems like by now our issues would be credible.
What they offer me is antidepressant, and I have tried several. I do not tolerate any I have been prescribed. I feel so adrift and searching the internet for some clue as to what has helped someone else. I know it is a fools errand because our symptoms are so different and particular to each case. But, I have tried lots of different things that have worked for others.
I get what you mean when you say moderation, and I believe I am not pushing myself. I rarely leave my home except for a few healthcare people I still see. I often comment to my husband that these appointments are a waste of time, but I can’t really give up. My family is very supportive or I would not have made it this far.
If I felt stable maybe I could think of myself as the recovering heart patient or recovering athlete.
My symptoms are worsening and I can’t help but panic to think where I will be in 3-6 months when I’m barely functioning now. It has taken me sixteen months to get in the shape I’m in now.

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I joined the COVID Loong-Haulers Discussion Group on Facebook. It has saved my sanity many a time over the last 17 months. You aren't allowed to give medical advice, as each person is affected uniquely and the care they need is tailored,. But can share what has worked for you and your symptoms. If not the Mayo Clinic, you might look for a CoVid Long Haul Clinic near you. OHSU has been wonderful. My doctor admits that there are still more questions than answers, but at least she believes me and doesn't gaslight me by saying its depression or being overweight, or whatever other reasons doctors give when they are too embarrassed to admit they just don't know.

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@jimmy4

I’ve been dealing with Long Covid for a year and a half and it seems like every time they give me a new drug. I have different problems. I am very so fed up with it now I’m on PREDNISONE and now I’m having cramping in my legs so bad that I am in excruciating pain can’t sleep. Just fed up with everything.
And now the doctors telling me to go to the ER to see if I have a blood clot in my leg. I am fed up. I don’t care. There is no support system out there for Long Covid even through the government.

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I have joined the COVID-19 Long-Haulers Discussion Group on Facebook. It has been a huge support as so many long haulers are dealing with what you describe. It has saved my sanity over the last 17 months more than once. It took a referral and 9 months to be seen at OHSU COVID LONG HAUL Clinic, but it was worth it. They haven't overprescribed medications and really listen to my symptoms. They admit to still having more questions than answers, but share in depth what they do know to help me understand. I hope you find the right support you need

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@laja

I dont know if this will help but have you tried to see a FUNCTIONAL MEDICINE Dr? Conventional med dr's will not help you. They only treat symptoms and wont try to figure out why things are the way they are. If it can't be seen on an xray, MRI or simple typical blood tests, they will not keep digging. There is a lot of info out there now about long covid being a MAST CELL issue. Find a functional medicine dr and see if they will help with certain antihistamines (not benadryl) and low dose anti inflammatory meds like Naltrexone which is used in low doses for post viral inflammation. I am only 11 weeks in to my meds (Ketotifen 1 mg every 12 hours and Naltexone 4.5 mg nightly before bed) but I know so many people that are bedridden from long covid and these meds seem to at least help me feed myself and keep house. Believe me I am NOT healthy like I was before. I was on a horse drill team with teenagers prior to getting long covid and I cannot do that now but I am at least 40% functioning. There is no way I could work if I were still nursing at the hospital though. My body is in too much pain with the muscle cramps and skin burning to be able to focus on a job. My heart pounds 50% of the day but my dr Rx'd Low dose Ativan 0.25 mg for that and it helps a little. It also helps with the tremors and the skin burning. It's not perfect by no means. There are moments where the med fails but the majority of my day is no longer filled with contemplating suicide.

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Low Dose Naltrexone has been a huge help in relieving the worst of my pain. I'd been using edibles mostly at night so I could sleep, but they are expensive. My pain was 6-9 24/7. I used pain cream during the day so I could function to some degree. But the LDN keeps my pain bearable. I still have to pace, as my pain increases if I don't stay in my energy envelope, but it has been a huge help in getting some relief. Pepcid and Zyrtec are what I'm on for the Mast Cell Issue. I still have gastrointestinal issues that she gave me a gastropathies diet to follow. And while my oxygen levels are fine, I'm short of breath often through out the day.

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@laja

I dont know if this will help but have you tried to see a FUNCTIONAL MEDICINE Dr? Conventional med dr's will not help you. They only treat symptoms and wont try to figure out why things are the way they are. If it can't be seen on an xray, MRI or simple typical blood tests, they will not keep digging. There is a lot of info out there now about long covid being a MAST CELL issue. Find a functional medicine dr and see if they will help with certain antihistamines (not benadryl) and low dose anti inflammatory meds like Naltrexone which is used in low doses for post viral inflammation. I am only 11 weeks in to my meds (Ketotifen 1 mg every 12 hours and Naltexone 4.5 mg nightly before bed) but I know so many people that are bedridden from long covid and these meds seem to at least help me feed myself and keep house. Believe me I am NOT healthy like I was before. I was on a horse drill team with teenagers prior to getting long covid and I cannot do that now but I am at least 40% functioning. There is no way I could work if I were still nursing at the hospital though. My body is in too much pain with the muscle cramps and skin burning to be able to focus on a job. My heart pounds 50% of the day but my dr Rx'd Low dose Ativan 0.25 mg for that and it helps a little. It also helps with the tremors and the skin burning. It's not perfect by no means. There are moments where the med fails but the majority of my day is no longer filled with contemplating suicide.

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That med did agree with me
I also took steroids and what happen-now I have cramps in my leg and very hard to walk or sleep
I feel like what ever I take it make me worse

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@memcat

Low Dose Naltrexone has been a huge help in relieving the worst of my pain. I'd been using edibles mostly at night so I could sleep, but they are expensive. My pain was 6-9 24/7. I used pain cream during the day so I could function to some degree. But the LDN keeps my pain bearable. I still have to pace, as my pain increases if I don't stay in my energy envelope, but it has been a huge help in getting some relief. Pepcid and Zyrtec are what I'm on for the Mast Cell Issue. I still have gastrointestinal issues that she gave me a gastropathies diet to follow. And while my oxygen levels are fine, I'm short of breath often through out the day.

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I am in week 4 of taking LDN and I think it might be helping with fatigue...in a few more wks I should have a more difinitive response.

I would like to know if long haulers, who have all their vaccines and boosters, are getting the Fall booster.

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@summerof42

I've been suffering now for 3 very long and brutal years. When I read the information below, I was in tears. Due to not be treated and believed by the many numerous doctors I've seen to date and untreated, I have ALL of the symptoms listed. Prior to Covid, I was so very healthy and active and enjoyed walking, biking, hiking, working in my yard, lovin' my job and on the go constantly in my mid 60's. I can barely function now, down to 90 lbs and in extruiating pain. Last nigh my skin an nerves were on FIRE! I took Benadryl, but other than that, nothing else I could do. Pre-covid, I never had problems with my eyes, I now have blood shot eyes with occular rosacea and eyes burn daily and in terrible pain. Developed styes and chalazion which became infected and had to go through 3 surgeries all to no avail. Even as I type, my eyes are burning. I have to go to the doctor's office tomorrow to get the sutures out which will be excruciating.

My body and organs are shutting down and I have no doctor or anyone who will help me. I pray every day for my Dear Lord to hear me.

Covid is a horrible and virus and weapon. I cry daily because I just want to go back in time to pre-covid days and when I felt so wonderful and enjoyed life and all my many blessings.

Hugs
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I don't know how long it has been since I originally had covid. It was sometime during the height of it all when we were all masked and locked down. Long covid, for me, made my muscles fatigue with any kind of continuous use. This primarily hit my arms, although I felt it in my legs some as well. I had shortness of breath and I would feel flutters in my chest sometimes.

The fatigue I had was odd. Early on when I used my muscles to do heavy lifting, I would pay for it starting 2 days later and it would last for at least a week. A year later and I could still do heavy lifting and and I had no repercussions if it was fairly quick (carrying something for a minute and put it down). But any amount of consistent weight (lifting my phone to my ear for 5 minutes) resulted in fatigue, carrying anything light for 10 minutes, and holding my head up all day at work was killing my neck.

That neck pain became bad and would result in excruciating headaches. A PT said this was the muscles causing nuchal ridge pain. I ordered a device (a rubber triangle thing) that manually pushes/separates/rubs this area while laying on it and turning my head. It would make my neck crack and release the muscle tension. It worked great. I had to use it for the last year or so and still use it from time to time.

Getting better (which I'm still doing) is hard to notice because improvements are so slight. But, over long periods of time, I know what it was like back then and I can see the improvements. Noticing fatigue is less and less often. Shortness of breath and flutters are very infrequent.

Before covid I was taking the stairs to work 14 to 16 flights. I have now done that a couple times in the last couple months and am starting to feel like starting to do it again.

I'm thankful this is getting better for me. Here is a recollection of my situation: I originally got the Covid vaccine early on. One of the first when the "I got shot" photo-selfie sign was up. I never got boosted after that. I have had a tested positive result of Covid twice, and have not probably had it more than that. But I have also had negative results even after being exposed from close contact with other Covid positive people.

I will pray for all of you who are suffering afflictions with the results of this whole thing (be it Covid, vaccines, whatever). I pray for you to see positive results and have hope that your symptoms fade away faster than mine have.

God Bless

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@seeker4answers

When you say skin burning, is it like a prickly burning feeling? Did you ever feel it inside your mouth?
I had very bad covid and took months for all symptoms to go away, but a year later, a life event stressed me so badly that I started to have very bad symptoms and have for months now. I’m convinced the virus living dormant has taken up with another and I’m as you were wondering how long I can live like this.
I have to find a functional med dr. The ones I’ve seen are useless. Completely useless.

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Yes the burning is a prickly feeling at times. Certain parts of my body feel like I have a horrible sunburn and other parts feel like I have pins and needles or a prickly feeling. Your chances of finding SOMETHING to help you get moments of relief are better with seeking out a FUNCTIONAL MEDICINE Dr because I too agree that the conventional med dr's are useless. They are too programmed to treat only things they understand.

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