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Kratom warning

Posted by lance1960 @lance1960, Oct 23, 2020

I want to post a first hand experience with taking Kratom. I was addicted to pain pills for 18 years, eventually I read that Kratom was the answer to my withdrawals. What a joke??. It did lift my withdrawals alright, and now I am addicted to Kratom for more than a year. The thing is when I started taking it I was 235lbs, and now I am 128lbs I am close to Anorexia . I am living a night mare a vortex that I am no longer able to get of. Please learn from me, do not take Kratom

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healthytoday | @healthytoday | Mar 16, 2021
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@erikas

@healthytoday So that you can receive the support you need, I'm wondering if you'd like to start a discussion on the topic or I can try to find a previous related topic. Would you like for me to help?

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Sure.

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healthytoday | @healthytoday | Mar 16, 2021
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@hopeful33250

Hello @healthytoday

First, I'd like to congratulate you on having a multi-generational household. Six months together is quite a feat.

Also, I understand that your intentions are good and that you want your daughter to be happy and healthy. There is one important principle of relationships that you may be forgetting: there is only one person that you can change and that person is yourself. If you try to change anyone else, it will not work, even with the best intentions. What will happen is that you will drive that person further from you.

I hope you can find peaceful co-existence with your daughter as you live together.

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Thanks for your thoughts. My husband and I lived for three years in 55+ housing with community activitiies etc. My husband enjoyed the social clubs especially playing pool. Socially, I found it very dull. Mostly conversation regarding the latest knee transplant apt. When we realized our daughters hardship, we wanted something sustainable for all of us. The biggest loss is my husband billards. My daughter is a willing worker and found a teaching position online which with the child support is keeping her afloat. She gets 1700 child support and earns about 1000. Her LA, Ca. one bedroom with free cockroaches was 1700 a month. We charge her 500 plus utl. This is a good situation for all of us. But our very different life styles is a challenge. We love each other and take care of each other....
You are right about only changing ourselves and being ourselves. As they drive off to pick up McDonalds dinner, I am doing yoga and drinking juices and taking vitamins. Different, but with respect. She needs to see that she is worth the work on herself and I need to back off. I get that. I recognize addiction to self destruction though the psychiatry people would probably call it something else.

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Teresa, Volunteer Mentor | @hopeful33250 | Mar 16, 2021
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@healthytoday

Thanks for your thoughts. My husband and I lived for three years in 55+ housing with community activitiies etc. My husband enjoyed the social clubs especially playing pool. Socially, I found it very dull. Mostly conversation regarding the latest knee transplant apt. When we realized our daughters hardship, we wanted something sustainable for all of us. The biggest loss is my husband billards. My daughter is a willing worker and found a teaching position online which with the child support is keeping her afloat. She gets 1700 child support and earns about 1000. Her LA, Ca. one bedroom with free cockroaches was 1700 a month. We charge her 500 plus utl. This is a good situation for all of us. But our very different life styles is a challenge. We love each other and take care of each other....
You are right about only changing ourselves and being ourselves. As they drive off to pick up McDonalds dinner, I am doing yoga and drinking juices and taking vitamins. Different, but with respect. She needs to see that she is worth the work on herself and I need to back off. I get that. I recognize addiction to self destruction though the psychiatry people would probably call it something else.

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@healthytoday Your phrase, "Different, but with respect." is a good thought. As you said, she needs to see what is best for herself. It may come sooner or it may come later, but that is her decision to make. As you already know, no one can make that decision for her.

Wishing you well as you work through these feelings. I do appreciate the help you are giving your daughter. While I didn't live with my parents after my divorce, they did give me a lot of support during a time when I certainly need it and I appreciated it.

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Erika | @erikas | Mar 16, 2021
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Sure.

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@healthytoday It's so hard to watch someone we love make mistakes that are bad for their health and happiness. 50 pounds is a lot. I lead a healthy lifestyle like you and I think it would break my heart to see my daughter not treating her body kindly. My daughter is young but I am trying to imagine what I would do if I were in your shoes. I am not one for advice but I think that I would consider the source of the weight gain. Why is she doing this to herself?

You already answered that question. She was in an abusive relationship and now she is divorced. She's in a tough spot. She may need help to move on and up.

Do you think she would be open to seeing a therapist? A therapist would give her space to deal with the root cause of the weight gain and likely she would start to feel better and take care of her body. She may also wish to see her primary care provider to see if she would be a candidate for an antidepressant. Likely she would be.

Below I have linked the Mental Health, Depression & Anxiety, and COVID-19 groups. You may wish to scroll through the posts and find connections. I also encourage you to create a post.
- Mental Health https://connect.mayoclinic.org/group/mental-health/
- Depression & Anxiety https://connect.mayoclinic.org/group/depression-anxiety/
- COVID-19 https://connect.mayoclinic.org/group/covid-19/

This is a relevant topic. Due to COVID-19 you are certainly not the only people in your situation.

I haven't done this myself but I know that letters can be more powerful than spoken words. Have you considered writing your daughter a letter, letting her know what a wonderful person she is, that you want what is best for her, and will always be there? You could leave the religion and weight bit out of it because they appear to be trigger topics right now.

Like I said, I'm not one for advice. Forgive me if this isn't helpful.

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healthytoday | @healthytoday | Mar 17, 2021
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@hopeful33250

@healthytoday Your phrase, "Different, but with respect." is a good thought. As you said, she needs to see what is best for herself. It may come sooner or it may come later, but that is her decision to make. As you already know, no one can make that decision for her.

Wishing you well as you work through these feelings. I do appreciate the help you are giving your daughter. While I didn't live with my parents after my divorce, they did give me a lot of support during a time when I certainly need it and I appreciated it.

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Could you share alittle more about the process of life after divorce. Why and what type of man is he? What does a woman need to let go of still wishing things had worked for the best.

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blessedintx | @blessedintx | Sep 4, 2023
In reply to @lance1960 "Teresa. Hello Teresa, I hope all is well!. I checked into a methodist hospital in Dallas,..." + (show)
@lance1960

Teresa.
Hello Teresa, I hope all is well!. I checked into a methodist hospital in Dallas, TX where I reside so I can get something going. They decided to feed me via line in me. They call it a banana bag, what it does it balances the chemicals and the electrolites in my body. What separates me from being classified Annaroxic is my willingness to eat and wanting to get better. My biggest problem Teresa is I don't know how to get off the Kratom. It is more addictive than Dilaudid, Morphine etc. ...the withdrawals are far more sever. The doctors cannot give any pain medications to relieve the withdrawals. They told me a psychiatric will talk to me and see what can be done. They are giving me Attivan a muscle relaxer to relieve me from the bouts of withdrawals. If you have any suggestion Teresa, please help me. I am hoping that the banana bag can reverse my weight loss. I wished I had never touched any pain pill ever. I didn't know then when I took them they were addictive. I kind of blame my stupidity for being they way I am now. I will be here at the hospital for this week getting fed. I will jeep you abreast Gid willing. Thank you for your caring about my wellbeing.
Regards

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Please be very careful with Ativan once you leave the hospital, if they give you a prescription. It is NOT a muscle relaxer. It is a anti-anxiety sedative in the drug class of Benzodiazepines, like Klonopin, Xanax and Valium. It is highly addictive. I realize it is used to help with the anxiety of detox and withdrawals, but it is unsafe to continue using. Benzodiazepines, Opiates and Alcohol have withdrawals that can literally kill you.
I am not just spouting this warning. I am a Licensed Chemical Dependency Counselor. Do your research! Please be safe!

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flyguy5600 | @flyguy5600 | Sep 4, 2023

Well I got a infection from a tic
Very long story , but had pain in my scrotum area. Needed pain relief stronger than tylenol
Heard about kratom redmaing
Worked for the pain well finally got antibiotics and stopped taking it. Took about 5 grams to 6 for 35 days. When I stopped had bad withdrawals .
For 3 days. Ansomia and could not eat , depressed and hot flashes. Not a good experience.
No one at the shop I got them said anything about withdrawals.

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