Polymyalgia Rheumatica (PMR): Meet others & Share Your Story

Welcome to the Polymyalgia Rheumatica (PMR) group on Mayo Clinic Connect.

Meet other members who are dealing with PMR. Let’s learn from each other and share stories about living well with PMR, coping with the challenges and offering tips.We look forward to welcoming you and introducing you to other members. Feel free to browse the topics or start a new one.

Grab a cup of coffee or beverage of choice and let’s chat. Why not start by introducing yourself? What's your experience with PMR? How are you doing today?

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Polymyalgia Rheumatica (PMR) Support Group.

Looks like PMR might be the journey I’m on. I was an active 75 year old in the spring but about the first of June I noticed tingling in my legs and slight pain behind my right knee. By the middle of July the tingling, and now leg pain on both legs increased. A fall on my back, because right leg gave out, sure concerned me but I continued mild slow exercises to help back, maybe legs. By the end of July, pain moving over buttocks and up my back, difficulty sleeping because of pain behind knees and behind thighs, prompted appt to primary care doctor. He ordered blood tests, told me to take Aleve for pain and we would look at results the next week. By the following week pain increasing, difficult walking. I contacted my biological sister (I’m adopted) who said our mother had Lupus and Rheumatoid arthritis and could hardly walk. She died at 75 about 50 years ago. My tests showed normal SED number, blood in urine a concern, but nothing else too abnormal. I questioned the statin I’m on, doctor felt this wasn’t cause. A CD of back ordered, but results were kind of dismissed as cause. I asked for a Lyme disease test which was negative. I think my doctor is ready to pass me on to another source but did order an MRI (scheduled for today) a neurology appointment. EMG test of nerves and the questions remain. It was our daughter who suggested looking at PMR, never heard of it, happy to have found this site and any suggestions because it sure sounds like what is going on. I don’t want to undermine my doctor but I feel I have to advocate for myself. I know I’m not alone, many folks on difficult journeys, but this came on pretty fast so have lots of questions and few answers.

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@jlg75

Looks like PMR might be the journey I’m on. I was an active 75 year old in the spring but about the first of June I noticed tingling in my legs and slight pain behind my right knee. By the middle of July the tingling, and now leg pain on both legs increased. A fall on my back, because right leg gave out, sure concerned me but I continued mild slow exercises to help back, maybe legs. By the end of July, pain moving over buttocks and up my back, difficulty sleeping because of pain behind knees and behind thighs, prompted appt to primary care doctor. He ordered blood tests, told me to take Aleve for pain and we would look at results the next week. By the following week pain increasing, difficult walking. I contacted my biological sister (I’m adopted) who said our mother had Lupus and Rheumatoid arthritis and could hardly walk. She died at 75 about 50 years ago. My tests showed normal SED number, blood in urine a concern, but nothing else too abnormal. I questioned the statin I’m on, doctor felt this wasn’t cause. A CD of back ordered, but results were kind of dismissed as cause. I asked for a Lyme disease test which was negative. I think my doctor is ready to pass me on to another source but did order an MRI (scheduled for today) a neurology appointment. EMG test of nerves and the questions remain. It was our daughter who suggested looking at PMR, never heard of it, happy to have found this site and any suggestions because it sure sounds like what is going on. I don’t want to undermine my doctor but I feel I have to advocate for myself. I know I’m not alone, many folks on difficult journeys, but this came on pretty fast so have lots of questions and few answers.

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Hello @jlg75, Welcome to Connect. I'm not a doctor and have no medical training but I have had 2 occurrences of PMR and for both my pain was all over my body and not just in the legs and lower back. I had issues walking also. Had to use a wheelchair for my rheumatology appointment when I was first diagnosed with PMR. There are a lot of conditions that mimic PMR. Hopefully you will learn more after your MRI and neurology appointment. I think spinal nerve compression can also cause lower back pain along with some of the symptoms you describe. It's good to hear that you are advocating for your own health. We are our best advocate,.

Have you thought about seeing a rheumatologist who normally have a lot more experience with what ails us old folks?

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@johnbishop

Hello @jlg75, Welcome to Connect. I'm not a doctor and have no medical training but I have had 2 occurrences of PMR and for both my pain was all over my body and not just in the legs and lower back. I had issues walking also. Had to use a wheelchair for my rheumatology appointment when I was first diagnosed with PMR. There are a lot of conditions that mimic PMR. Hopefully you will learn more after your MRI and neurology appointment. I think spinal nerve compression can also cause lower back pain along with some of the symptoms you describe. It's good to hear that you are advocating for your own health. We are our best advocate,.

Have you thought about seeing a rheumatologist who normally have a lot more experience with what ails us old folks?

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Thank you for your quick response. I have researched rheumatologist in our area, reading their views, treatment approaches and beliefs about solving what’s going on. I don’t want to bring this up yet to my doctor but want him to help look for answers. He thinks neuropathy but it has been a bit of a struggle as that is what he only focus on. The pain is in my shoulders now too. I will request a C reactive protein test. Also learned this morning two neighbors also have PMR. We live on a lake so wonder…what’s in the water?

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I am not a doctor either but your symptoms sound a lot like the lumbar spinal stenosis I developed several months ago. This exercise approach helped me:
https://www.verywellhealth.com/exercise-program-for-spinal-stenosis-2696100

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@jlg75

Thank you for your quick response. I have researched rheumatologist in our area, reading their views, treatment approaches and beliefs about solving what’s going on. I don’t want to bring this up yet to my doctor but want him to help look for answers. He thinks neuropathy but it has been a bit of a struggle as that is what he only focus on. The pain is in my shoulders now too. I will request a C reactive protein test. Also learned this morning two neighbors also have PMR. We live on a lake so wonder…what’s in the water?

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I was diagnsed with PMR at the end of June this year. Every morning I would wake with pain having radiated further down my body, it began in my neck. When it reached my legs within a week and I could barely walk, I went to the ER. They had no clue after an MRI and bloodwork. My doctor agreed to see me next day and did more bloodwork; he agreed with me it was PMR.
Perhaps your doctor can do this for you as well?
I started on 15mg Prednisone daily and was pain free within hours. Now tapering and at 11mg. Startimg Prednisone is very important because if it is PMR, too long with inflammation can trigger Giant Cell Arteritis (GCA) which can cause blindness if not treated right away.

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PMR mostly affects people over 70.

Stress aggravates it and from my experience, I see that to be true.

My PMR started with a pain in my head. It progressed quickly and within a week I could not walk. My doctor immediately talked to a rheumatologist. My doctor checked my sediment and C protein levels and did his own research and agreed with the rheumatologist.

The pain moved down into my shoulders , my wrists and my hips which caused an inability to walk without pain.

I have had an unusual amount of stress several years before. When I am stressed my cortisol levels and can play havoc with my body.

I was, initially scared of taking the prednisone but my doctor started me at 1mg and we moved up to 10 for 4 months. I have since tapered down to 5 mg. My doctor also did a thoracic CT scan to check for giant cell.

I am okay with the 5mg. The hunger effect comes after I take it in the morning for a couple hours.

I recently had another unusual stressful event, which triggered it but it settled down through meditation and walking.

It sounds like you were exercising for health. I have learned with PMR that too much exercise can also raise the cortisol levels. It has been difficult to assess this so my physiotherapist continues to find exercises that I can perform.

So the key for me is eating healthy, walking and keeping my cortisol levels down. I still take 200mg of Gabapentin down from 800. Do I always walk and eat healthy. No.

I don’t blame myself either. The depression from the prednisone is low grade.

I don’t like prednisone but feeling sorry myself with “Why me?” does not help. It just is; no real rhyme or reason. It took a long time to accept that this a disease and I did not cause it.

I call this an equalizer disease. It affects all income levels and , all genders. It does not discriminate.

My doctor works very closely with me. I never have to go after my doctor. He is quite empathic.

All I can suggest is to be very gentle with yourself . You did not cause it.

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Doctors can't decide if I have PMR or Fibromyalgia. Maybe I have both. I am about 20 lbs overweight but I feel like my legs and maybe my whole body is filled with concrete and I struggle to walk and carry this weight. It is exhausting.

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Hello all, new to PMR and finding this Connect site very helpful.

I'm a 63 yo male, diagnosed in late June of this year and feel lucky that I was diagnosed quickly, especially after seeing others suffer for years before proper diagnosis. I'm also a type 2 diabetic with mild hypertension.

In April I started having more stiffness in my hips/back than the typical morning stiffness, but not horrible and kept putting off seeing an ortho, thinking it was mild sciatica. In mid/late May, my hip flexors started getting sore and then my right knee started to get stiff/sore. I finally got an ortho appointment June 7th. By the time of my appointment, both hip flexors and knees were sore and stiff (4-5/10 pain scale) pain dropped a bit after early morning walk with the dog, but was constant and built throughout the day. The x-rays showed no damage, but blood tests showed elevated inflammation markers (CRP and ESR) but rheumatoid factor and ANA were negative. He thought it may still be Rheumatoid Arthritis, so he gave me a referral to see a Rheumatologist and a prescription for a 6-day pack of methylprednisolone. Within a few hours felt a lot better and the next day all the pain was gone. The day after finishing the course of meds, the pain started coming back and the following day was fully back. Well, as everyone has found out, it was two months out to see the rheumatologist and the pain started increasing and was in both hip joins and both knee joints. Both shoulders and wrists were also sore, but I attributed that to over exertion to compensate for lifting/pulling my self along because of the leg pain. It took a week to see my new PCP's Nurse Practitioner (NP) and by then, June 26th, the pain level was at a constant 5-6/10 and walking didn't help much anymore. A full panel of blood tests ruled out Lupus, Lyme's, gout, HIV, etc. The inflammation markers were up 3x and 5x from previous elevated tests. I was prescribed Meloxicam, but unfortunately the pain was getting worse, or so seemed because it was constant without any relief and lack of sleep. I could only work for 2-3 hours a day and then went home and laid flat with a pillow under my knees that let me doze for 15 minutes every couple of hours. The entire next July 4th week it was so bad I stayed home in misery. A couple of times I extremely painfully got into the car and sat for 5 minutes but was in so much pain I went back in and laid down. I called the NP on that Wednesday and she called in a 20mg dose of prednisone and we both agreed I most likely had PMR and not RA. Finally within a couple hours of starting, things improved and a few days later I felt fairly normal, except that by early evening the pain and stiffness started returning. After a follow up visit with my NP on July 26th, we thought it best to split the prednisone to 10 in the morning and 10 in the evening and that did the trick. I was feeling back to normal, except for being a bit exhausted and weak from the inactivity as well a losing 20 lbs in 5-6 weeks. Finally saw the rheumatologist about two weeks ago. She agreed that it is PMR. She seemed a bit surprised that I had bilateral pain in all joints (except ankle) at the same time. I also had not seen anyone describe that in any of the posts here or anywhere online. She did "scold" me for splitting my prednisone dose and insisted I only take in the morning as well as asking why I was on such a "high dose" at 20mg and the need to start tapering. Also started me on calcium/vit D supplements for bone loss since I will be on prednisone for awhile. Within three days of dropping to 17.5mg in the morning only, things came roaring back...... I immediately returned to 10mg morn and eve for two days and by the next day was back to pain free. I then went to 10mg morning and 7.5 evening and have only had very mild stiffness pain (1-2/10) in the shoulders the past ten days. At the two week mark, I will go to 7.5 morn/eve and see how that goes.

A few closing items:
- As I mentioned earlier, I feel lucky that this was diagnosed quickly
- Looking forward to tapering the prednisone, but will do it on my schedule, not as prescribed by my rheumatologist. Some great threads on tapering on this site! It is messing with my sleep and blood sugars, as well as having the typical jitters, flushing and very occasional heartbeat issues, but that is better than the pain, as long as I can taper down.
- Also, some good threads here on our providers not listening to us as individuals, but thinking everyone is the same.
- I've attached an article from a doctor who went through the same thing and really struck a cord with me.

Thanks, Terry

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ImmunoMedicine - 2020 - Paalman (ImmunoMedicine-2020-Paalman.pdf)

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@terrym

Hello all, new to PMR and finding this Connect site very helpful.

I'm a 63 yo male, diagnosed in late June of this year and feel lucky that I was diagnosed quickly, especially after seeing others suffer for years before proper diagnosis. I'm also a type 2 diabetic with mild hypertension.

In April I started having more stiffness in my hips/back than the typical morning stiffness, but not horrible and kept putting off seeing an ortho, thinking it was mild sciatica. In mid/late May, my hip flexors started getting sore and then my right knee started to get stiff/sore. I finally got an ortho appointment June 7th. By the time of my appointment, both hip flexors and knees were sore and stiff (4-5/10 pain scale) pain dropped a bit after early morning walk with the dog, but was constant and built throughout the day. The x-rays showed no damage, but blood tests showed elevated inflammation markers (CRP and ESR) but rheumatoid factor and ANA were negative. He thought it may still be Rheumatoid Arthritis, so he gave me a referral to see a Rheumatologist and a prescription for a 6-day pack of methylprednisolone. Within a few hours felt a lot better and the next day all the pain was gone. The day after finishing the course of meds, the pain started coming back and the following day was fully back. Well, as everyone has found out, it was two months out to see the rheumatologist and the pain started increasing and was in both hip joins and both knee joints. Both shoulders and wrists were also sore, but I attributed that to over exertion to compensate for lifting/pulling my self along because of the leg pain. It took a week to see my new PCP's Nurse Practitioner (NP) and by then, June 26th, the pain level was at a constant 5-6/10 and walking didn't help much anymore. A full panel of blood tests ruled out Lupus, Lyme's, gout, HIV, etc. The inflammation markers were up 3x and 5x from previous elevated tests. I was prescribed Meloxicam, but unfortunately the pain was getting worse, or so seemed because it was constant without any relief and lack of sleep. I could only work for 2-3 hours a day and then went home and laid flat with a pillow under my knees that let me doze for 15 minutes every couple of hours. The entire next July 4th week it was so bad I stayed home in misery. A couple of times I extremely painfully got into the car and sat for 5 minutes but was in so much pain I went back in and laid down. I called the NP on that Wednesday and she called in a 20mg dose of prednisone and we both agreed I most likely had PMR and not RA. Finally within a couple hours of starting, things improved and a few days later I felt fairly normal, except that by early evening the pain and stiffness started returning. After a follow up visit with my NP on July 26th, we thought it best to split the prednisone to 10 in the morning and 10 in the evening and that did the trick. I was feeling back to normal, except for being a bit exhausted and weak from the inactivity as well a losing 20 lbs in 5-6 weeks. Finally saw the rheumatologist about two weeks ago. She agreed that it is PMR. She seemed a bit surprised that I had bilateral pain in all joints (except ankle) at the same time. I also had not seen anyone describe that in any of the posts here or anywhere online. She did "scold" me for splitting my prednisone dose and insisted I only take in the morning as well as asking why I was on such a "high dose" at 20mg and the need to start tapering. Also started me on calcium/vit D supplements for bone loss since I will be on prednisone for awhile. Within three days of dropping to 17.5mg in the morning only, things came roaring back...... I immediately returned to 10mg morn and eve for two days and by the next day was back to pain free. I then went to 10mg morning and 7.5 evening and have only had very mild stiffness pain (1-2/10) in the shoulders the past ten days. At the two week mark, I will go to 7.5 morn/eve and see how that goes.

A few closing items:
- As I mentioned earlier, I feel lucky that this was diagnosed quickly
- Looking forward to tapering the prednisone, but will do it on my schedule, not as prescribed by my rheumatologist. Some great threads on tapering on this site! It is messing with my sleep and blood sugars, as well as having the typical jitters, flushing and very occasional heartbeat issues, but that is better than the pain, as long as I can taper down.
- Also, some good threads here on our providers not listening to us as individuals, but thinking everyone is the same.
- I've attached an article from a doctor who went through the same thing and really struck a cord with me.

Thanks, Terry

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Hello @terrym, Welcome to Connect. I was fortunate to get a fairly quick referral to a rheumatologist from my primary care doc when my PMR was first diagnosed. I've had 2 occurrences of PMR and was started on 20 mg for both. It's great to hear you are advocating for your own health. You would think PCPs would be more knowledgeable about PMR but most aren't. Fortunate for us PMR patients, there is a lot of peer reviewed information available on the Internet. The trick is finding it. Here are more if you haven't already seen them:

--- GCA & PMR - Treat-to-target recommendations in giant cell arteritis and polymyalgia rheumatica: https://ard.bmj.com/content/early/2023/02/23/ard-2022-223429
--- 2015 Recommendations for the management of polymyalgia rheumatica: a European League Against Rheumatism/American College of Rheumatology collaborative initiative:
https://ard.bmj.com/content/74/10/1799
--- "Normal ESR and CRP should not stop to include PMR in differential diagnosis."
Polymyalgia rheumatica with normal values of both erythrocyte sedimentation rate and C-reactive protein concentration at the time of diagnosis: https://academic.oup.com/rheumatology/article/58/5/921/5285558.

There is another discussion you might also find helpful:
--- PMR Dosages and Managing Symptoms: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/pmr-dosages/.

My rheumy had me keep a daily log to track my pain when I got up in the morning along with the prednisone dose for that day. Do you keep a daily log?

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@terrym

Hello all, new to PMR and finding this Connect site very helpful.

I'm a 63 yo male, diagnosed in late June of this year and feel lucky that I was diagnosed quickly, especially after seeing others suffer for years before proper diagnosis. I'm also a type 2 diabetic with mild hypertension.

In April I started having more stiffness in my hips/back than the typical morning stiffness, but not horrible and kept putting off seeing an ortho, thinking it was mild sciatica. In mid/late May, my hip flexors started getting sore and then my right knee started to get stiff/sore. I finally got an ortho appointment June 7th. By the time of my appointment, both hip flexors and knees were sore and stiff (4-5/10 pain scale) pain dropped a bit after early morning walk with the dog, but was constant and built throughout the day. The x-rays showed no damage, but blood tests showed elevated inflammation markers (CRP and ESR) but rheumatoid factor and ANA were negative. He thought it may still be Rheumatoid Arthritis, so he gave me a referral to see a Rheumatologist and a prescription for a 6-day pack of methylprednisolone. Within a few hours felt a lot better and the next day all the pain was gone. The day after finishing the course of meds, the pain started coming back and the following day was fully back. Well, as everyone has found out, it was two months out to see the rheumatologist and the pain started increasing and was in both hip joins and both knee joints. Both shoulders and wrists were also sore, but I attributed that to over exertion to compensate for lifting/pulling my self along because of the leg pain. It took a week to see my new PCP's Nurse Practitioner (NP) and by then, June 26th, the pain level was at a constant 5-6/10 and walking didn't help much anymore. A full panel of blood tests ruled out Lupus, Lyme's, gout, HIV, etc. The inflammation markers were up 3x and 5x from previous elevated tests. I was prescribed Meloxicam, but unfortunately the pain was getting worse, or so seemed because it was constant without any relief and lack of sleep. I could only work for 2-3 hours a day and then went home and laid flat with a pillow under my knees that let me doze for 15 minutes every couple of hours. The entire next July 4th week it was so bad I stayed home in misery. A couple of times I extremely painfully got into the car and sat for 5 minutes but was in so much pain I went back in and laid down. I called the NP on that Wednesday and she called in a 20mg dose of prednisone and we both agreed I most likely had PMR and not RA. Finally within a couple hours of starting, things improved and a few days later I felt fairly normal, except that by early evening the pain and stiffness started returning. After a follow up visit with my NP on July 26th, we thought it best to split the prednisone to 10 in the morning and 10 in the evening and that did the trick. I was feeling back to normal, except for being a bit exhausted and weak from the inactivity as well a losing 20 lbs in 5-6 weeks. Finally saw the rheumatologist about two weeks ago. She agreed that it is PMR. She seemed a bit surprised that I had bilateral pain in all joints (except ankle) at the same time. I also had not seen anyone describe that in any of the posts here or anywhere online. She did "scold" me for splitting my prednisone dose and insisted I only take in the morning as well as asking why I was on such a "high dose" at 20mg and the need to start tapering. Also started me on calcium/vit D supplements for bone loss since I will be on prednisone for awhile. Within three days of dropping to 17.5mg in the morning only, things came roaring back...... I immediately returned to 10mg morn and eve for two days and by the next day was back to pain free. I then went to 10mg morning and 7.5 evening and have only had very mild stiffness pain (1-2/10) in the shoulders the past ten days. At the two week mark, I will go to 7.5 morn/eve and see how that goes.

A few closing items:
- As I mentioned earlier, I feel lucky that this was diagnosed quickly
- Looking forward to tapering the prednisone, but will do it on my schedule, not as prescribed by my rheumatologist. Some great threads on tapering on this site! It is messing with my sleep and blood sugars, as well as having the typical jitters, flushing and very occasional heartbeat issues, but that is better than the pain, as long as I can taper down.
- Also, some good threads here on our providers not listening to us as individuals, but thinking everyone is the same.
- I've attached an article from a doctor who went through the same thing and really struck a cord with me.

Thanks, Terry

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@terrym I have similar story — very similar. How are you dealing with increased blood sugar from Prednisone? I also am a type 2 diabetic but no real problem until started Prednisone.

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