I reversed osteoporosis without drugs

Posted by sheilad1 @sheilad1, Dec 28, 2022

I had my bone quality test yesterday along with another bone density test. This was my third bone density test in 14 months.

My first bone density test was Nov 2021.
I started consulting with different doctors. If I must take meds I would. But I had to get to the truth.
The physician who appeared to know the most is Keith McCormick DC the chiropractor who got osteoporosis at a very young age and really understands it.

That first DEXA scan showed I had mild osteoperosis of the spine, within the margin of error.
So no McCormick said to take the CTX (blood) test and a few others.
CTX was good.
My CTX shows that the osteoclasts are not breaking down too much bone. therefore, my next bone density test shouldn’t show that that I am much worse.

I decided not to wait until 2 years for another scan and took
I took another bone density (aka DEXA) scan 10/2022 to see if that was true about the CTX.
My spine was actually better in that scan and it was now osteopenia.
My hip was a little worse bringing it outside the margin of error. McCormick said this was a tough call so I said to him why don’t I get a bone quality test (that he told me about) and I figured that will buy me a little time anyway lol.

Unfortunately, the bone quality test only measures the spine.
Since it’s unusual for your spine to get better and your hip to get worse, it made me think - what have I done differently since the last test? Why would my spine improve but not my hip? What is my spine doing that my hip is not?

I decided it had to be the Supernatural virtual reality exercise app that I exercise to (on the oculus quest VR helmet). Even though I am striking the air, there actually is resistance, and I push hard to hit it as powerfully as I can.

I decided to put weights on my ankles. Everything I read says weight training should be once or twice a week, and I certainly only did it once.

Back to yesterday and the bone quality (TBS) test and yet another bone density (DEXA) test.
My hip was back to where it was on the first test. This put me back inside the margin of error where I would not have to take medication
This demonstrated to me that the CTX score did in fact mean I'm not losing density quickly.
Yesterday's test shows that my spine continued to improve and my bone density score was no longerosteopenia. It was normal. My bone quality test was great. The tech really loved it and called me over to show me how I was completely in the green meaning It was normal which is a little unusual at my age, 74, altogether.

I may be wrong about supernatural helping.
I’ll probably take the DEXA again in six months because I am anxious to see how the hip does, and if it improves even more.
And if so, I’ll turn myself into a study. 😂

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@debraran

My CTX stayed high but my bone density improved. I know my bones are strong, I fell hard (usually don't) with puppy over bone with wet shoes and didn't break fall much. Wrist, side, hips etc. were fine, a couple of black and blues. My doc without OP fell on stairs and broke wrist. There is so much more to OP than they understand. My mom fell yearly I think, her guardian angel was overworked and finally got a small hairline break at 92. Lived to 97 without any other. Sometimes strength and bone density is not accurately read.

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@debraran I had some hard falls with no breaks but fracture three lumbar vertebrae in the movement of putting a bathing suit on in the car. It is hard to judge bone strength from falls and from activities too. At the time I was taking classes in sword tai chi and feeling powerful.

Editing to add: just saw your DEXA scores on another thread and yours aren't too bad at all, so you are in a different situation than I was!

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@windyshores

@debraran I had some hard falls with no breaks but fracture three lumbar vertebrae in the movement of putting a bathing suit on in the car. It is hard to judge bone strength from falls and from activities too. At the time I was taking classes in sword tai chi and feeling powerful.

Editing to add: just saw your DEXA scores on another thread and yours aren't too bad at all, so you are in a different situation than I was!

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Oh what were your scores? I do see women who's doctor's wrote scripts for meds with osteopenia which was a shock to me. Yes, it's very complicated. Even my doctor said nothing is foolproof.

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@windyshores

@debraran I had some hard falls with no breaks but fracture three lumbar vertebrae in the movement of putting a bathing suit on in the car. It is hard to judge bone strength from falls and from activities too. At the time I was taking classes in sword tai chi and feeling powerful.

Editing to add: just saw your DEXA scores on another thread and yours aren't too bad at all, so you are in a different situation than I was!

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Important point. And I too had some hard falls without breaks. I am very active. One nasty fall was on the tennis court running forward full speed and tripping over an undone shoelace that sent me airborne, landing with full body weight on one wrist. No break, only a bad sprain.

When I first read somewhere that bone density and bone strength could be different things, I tried to research what/how this might be and how it is determined. It was a very frustrating exercise.

I just purchased McCormick's book with the aim/hope of learning more about this particular issue, among other things. Unfortunately I do not have time at present to explore my new book as thoroughly as necessary; it is quite detailed.

In the meantime, if anyone has already tried to figure this out, I would appreciate an executive summary of what you have learned so far.

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I too am in contact with Dr McCormick. My PA said I don't have to be on osteoporosis meds if I don't want to be. Dr McCormick said that I ABSOLUTELY DO need to be on medication! I trust him. I had all sorts of blood test and a GI Map and he is going to hopefully help me get out of the danger zone.

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@rjd

Important point. And I too had some hard falls without breaks. I am very active. One nasty fall was on the tennis court running forward full speed and tripping over an undone shoelace that sent me airborne, landing with full body weight on one wrist. No break, only a bad sprain.

When I first read somewhere that bone density and bone strength could be different things, I tried to research what/how this might be and how it is determined. It was a very frustrating exercise.

I just purchased McCormick's book with the aim/hope of learning more about this particular issue, among other things. Unfortunately I do not have time at present to explore my new book as thoroughly as necessary; it is quite detailed.

In the meantime, if anyone has already tried to figure this out, I would appreciate an executive summary of what you have learned so far.

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@rjd maybe an appointment with McCormick would be easier! I did read, sort of, his 700 page book but it is a great reference to check in the particular topics you are interested in:)

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Wow - does your doctor let you get a DEXA scan every three months? Does your insurance pay for it? Glad you have seen improvement!

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@debraran

My CTX stayed high but my bone density improved. I know my bones are strong, I fell hard (usually don't) with puppy over bone with wet shoes and didn't break fall much. Wrist, side, hips etc. were fine, a couple of black and blues. My doc without OP fell on stairs and broke wrist. There is so much more to OP than they understand. My mom fell yearly I think, her guardian angel was overworked and finally got a small hairline break at 92. Lived to 97 without any other. Sometimes strength and bone density is not accurately read.

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“Sometimes strength and bone density are not accurately read.” I can relate. When I was 49 years old (26 years ago), I had a bone density test done. I was told I had osteoporosis of the spine and osteopenia of the hips and the bones of a 90 year old. I walked out of that medical office and never went back. I focused on continuing my life as I always had. I exercised by playing tennis, working out, walking, sometimes running, eating well etc. In the past several years, I have shrunk in height and my shoulder span has decreased. I can see a slight rounding at the top of the spine/neckline. I had 4 grandparents who had osteoporosis looking shapes in some form or other as they aged. In the past year, I have really focused on doing Pilates and barre and walking st least 5 miles a day. I run occasionally and play a competitive game of Pickleball. I hope I can continue to somehow stop the shrinking by continuing to exercise and to eat well. From what I have read so far in these comments, not many people in the medical world know a whole lot about osteoporosis. And that is scary.

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@janpg

“Sometimes strength and bone density are not accurately read.” I can relate. When I was 49 years old (26 years ago), I had a bone density test done. I was told I had osteoporosis of the spine and osteopenia of the hips and the bones of a 90 year old. I walked out of that medical office and never went back. I focused on continuing my life as I always had. I exercised by playing tennis, working out, walking, sometimes running, eating well etc. In the past several years, I have shrunk in height and my shoulder span has decreased. I can see a slight rounding at the top of the spine/neckline. I had 4 grandparents who had osteoporosis looking shapes in some form or other as they aged. In the past year, I have really focused on doing Pilates and barre and walking st least 5 miles a day. I run occasionally and play a competitive game of Pickleball. I hope I can continue to somehow stop the shrinking by continuing to exercise and to eat well. From what I have read so far in these comments, not many people in the medical world know a whole lot about osteoporosis. And that is scary.

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Yes, my gyn has studied bones and menopause for decades after dropping OB and she is conservative luckily. She doesn't dole out meds without many blood tests and discussing your body, build, strength etc. Pilates is wonderful for the core and balance. I grew 1/2 inch at one office and I joked I was standing taller, but probably true.
You seem to be doing very well staying active and moving. Great job. Any changes to diet or supplements?

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Diet has changed here and there over the past 26 years and I do take a multi vitamin and some supplements.

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@janpg

Diet has changed here and there over the past 26 years and I do take a multi vitamin and some supplements.

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What vitamins and supplements do you use?

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