Supporting a depressed spouse.

Posted by ktawater @ktawater, Jul 15, 2023

Any other folks here who's spouse has severe depression? I'm at a loss how to help. Nothing I do seems to be right. He thinks I don't care but I just don't know how to help! Would love to find someone to talk to.

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I don't even know where to start, I feel so overwhelmed. We've been married 28 years. A little back story: his first wife died at age 25 from complications after surgery for Chron's. He had 3 girls, ages 8, 3, and 1. When we first married he didn't take medication but for the most part was able to "handle" the depression. Our circumstances at the time allowed him to leave his job and finish college while I worked. Soon after we married his mom was found dead from an accidental overdose. She struggled with addiction to pains meds, hence his reluctance to take anything. Eventually, after many blow ups and fits of anger over the slightest things I was able to convince him to take medicine. Things seemed better until he forgot his meds for a couple of days or when they just stopped working and either needed a change in dosage or a new medication all together.
I feel like I'm rambling but maybe you get the gist so far.
He's always gotten really angry, almost violent at times, when things didn't go right, even on medicine. An example: about 15 or so years ago he couldn't find something he was looking for in our kitchen, so he emptied out every drawer, cabinet, and the pantry in the middle of the floor, yelling the whole time about how bad of a housekeeper I was, etc. Current situation: he's decided that he isn't going to take medicine anymore (No idea what sparked that and he isn't talking about it) so naturally his depression is really bad. Stays in bed for days, and literally does nothing. Our kids are grown so it's just us and our 7 dogs. I work 8-10 hours a day and after I get home, we eat, and I feed the dogs, take the trash out, or whatever needs done, I'm spent! I don't nag him or fuss because he's in bed for days or doesn't do anything. But he'll call me everything in the book and tell me how terrible I am that I don't do anything to try and help him. I feel like I am helping by taking care of everything by myself. Even mowing the lawn, whatever I can physically do, I do. I've done many of the things that have been suggested over and over through the years: just being there, trying to get him to talk, asking how I can help, tried to trick him into getting out of the house, etc.
Is it just the depression making him mean to me or am I terrible?

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@hope112

I’m so sorry you are going through this! I have a depressed husband and son and it’s been the worst thing in ever gone through. My husband’s was triggered by my son’s issues. We are still trying to get on top of it, but after 1.5 years, many tears and lots of different meds and doc appointments, things are somewhat improving. The hardest part is feeling you can’t get away from the dread in your house because no one is happy and you can’t get out because you don’t want to leave them alone. It’s so exhausting. I am thankful my husband was willing to get help. I would encourage (if you haven’t already) your husband to go to a therapist and find a psychiatrist to get meds. It’s a long process, but in the end could be the solution. I also let him know I’m here for him but don’t push him to talk about it because he’s not a talker. I’m praying for you and if I can help in answering any questions please let me know.

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Thanks for reaching out. He went to a therapist years ago but thinks he knows more than them and won't go back.

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@scolio

Well, I don't know. I have a tendency to depression but I'm so used to it that I wouldn't know what to tell someone who wanted to 'help'. Have you asked him what you can do? I'm trying to understand what you mean by "Nothing I do seems to be right". . .
Is your spouse receiving any treatment like counselling or medication?

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I commented on my post in an effort to reply to everyone that reached out to me! I appreciate your response!! Look forward to any other feedback you can offer.

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@annewoodmayo

My husband did this for me:
He "suggested" that we go for ice cream. Yum, so I agreed. While we were out, we drove to a park to eat our ice cream. We almost stopped at the store that we passed, but we both decided not to do that, for some reason I forget.

As we were driving home, I realized that he had tricked me into getting up and moving. He didn't really want ice cream. He just wanted to help me get out of my funk. We both had a chuckle.

Thing is, he thought of 1. something I might like to do. 2. He made it easy for me to say yes -- For example, when I said something about having to get dressed, he said I could stay in the car. He removed the stupid obstacles that I put up. 3. Then, by driving to the park, he added another level of activity/new place.

I don't know if this would work for clinical, serious depression, but it did work for me when I was really in a serious funk about a serious issue.

When somebody (my mom, husband, child) is sick and needs some care, that usually gets me out of the blues. I guess it taps into a basic role or a duty or something that I just can NOT ignore. My conscience won't let me stay inside myself. Can you think of some quality like that in your husband that you could tap into? [I can't think of something like that in my husband off the top of my head ! ]

Is your husband a protector? Maybe try "Oh, honey, there's a great big bug! Please come kill it for me."
Is your husband a fixer? Maybe try "Oh, honey, I tried to fix the faucet but I can't turn the wrench. Can you come turn it for me (start with small requests)? " Then, oh, what should I do next? Can you lift the X ?" Wow, these examples sound like the 1950s! But I'm pretty sure that they would work on my husband.

For me, I guess it's just a matter of getting started, on something small that seems manageable, on something that I like or something that I feel compelled to do. Once I get one small thing done, I get feeling more connected to real life, and moving and doing tasks seem more manageable and worthwhile. I think the physical moving and getting more oxygen and fresh air help all by themselves.

These might be really stupid ideas, but I was so moved by your request that I wanted to offer something. I hope something like these ideas helps you guys.
It's wonderful that you want to help your husband. Good luck to you both

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Your ideas are not stupid at all! Unfortunately, they won't work for me. His response to "help me with X" is figure it out. I appreciate you commenting and am open to any other suggestions.

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@hope112

I’m so sorry you are going through this! I have a depressed husband and son and it’s been the worst thing in ever gone through. My husband’s was triggered by my son’s issues. We are still trying to get on top of it, but after 1.5 years, many tears and lots of different meds and doc appointments, things are somewhat improving. The hardest part is feeling you can’t get away from the dread in your house because no one is happy and you can’t get out because you don’t want to leave them alone. It’s so exhausting. I am thankful my husband was willing to get help. I would encourage (if you haven’t already) your husband to go to a therapist and find a psychiatrist to get meds. It’s a long process, but in the end could be the solution. I also let him know I’m here for him but don’t push him to talk about it because he’s not a talker. I’m praying for you and if I can help in answering any questions please let me know.

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But, you are right, it's so exhausting!!

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@gingerw

@ktawater Welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect! I'm happy to see what others have posted here to you. While I am not in the same shoes as you, I do deal with depression myself.

Is your husband doing any therapy? Taking any medications? Sometimes it is difficult to see any assistance from those closest to us. Being available to be a listening ear, not changing the subject so he feels comfortable being vulnerable with you, might help. Has he verbalized what being a help to him will entail, so you know what to do [given that there could be changes at any time!]. I imagine it is difficult to know when to ask him how you can "be there".

I look forward to hearing from you, and listening to your journey of progress in this.
Ginger

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I wish he would go to therapy, or us go as a couple! In my mind, I've tried all the things. I'm just tired, tired of being the strong one all the time, tired of having to take care of everything, tired of everything being my fault, etc. I sound so selfish! I'm really not, though. It just feels like the movie groundhog day!

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@dfb

I have been sick most of my life with suicide pretty much always on my mind, I’m actually a bit better right now,

Here’s what worked for me and what doesn’t. As a kid I used to spend a lot of time walking in the woods alone! This can be tough on parents and spouses but it kept me from saying things that were hurtful.

Loved ones tend to be worried leaving a depressed person alone for fear of suicide. Imagine what it feels like to know you’re hurting people, sometimes one is better off alone.

Not everyone will agree with this, but if I am going kill myself no one is going to stop me; except someone who needs me!

My wife used to leave our four children with me or send at least one along. I never even considered suicide when I was taking care of them.

I retired very early, 46 and became the stay at home dad. My children and now ex-wife saved my life.

The past ten years have been horrible, I’m now 60 and living with my mother. I do not see my children but knowing that they might need me still often keeps me alive,

And lastly for me I do not like being babysat no matter how bad off I am. Criticism is not helpful but normal expectations are.

Lastly a warning; the sick me and the well me are two different people. Depressed all I want is to be left alone.

When I am well I am incredibly competent, I’ve built and sold four companies in between depressions. The switching can be very hard regardless of which me my loved ones are used to,

I want to be clear that I am not referring to normal grief and sadness, those are normal emotions.

Depression is irrational and can and often is present when things are good,

See a good therapist, my wife and I would go together, it helps.

All my best wishes to those who suffer from mental illness and to anyone caring for a loved one who is sick. If I could hug you I would!

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Thank you for sharing your experience! I would love to talk more.

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@brandysparks

These are really good ideas, and thank you for sharing them.

They would work with me, and especially if both of us at some point understood we were fighting this thing together, and that - in the sense of the "subterfuge" effort - that we eventually smiled and agreed we were both in 'on the joke', if you know what I mean...just like you described it.

Having your partner / friend / counselor 'in on it' with you can make ALL the difference - at least it would to me.

Hugs.

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Hey there, Brandysparks!

I'm so glad you like the ice cream idea. 🙂

Being "in" on the joke was just the "sprinkles" on top for me; I would have benefited from the outing even if I never realized my husband only did it for my benefit.

But, I can see how someone might get put off by the trick aspect. I was just grateful for the help.

And I agree that It IS much nicer to have a partner in on the fight! I like that my husband kept up the fight with the ice cream idea when I couldn't do a thing for myself.
I think that was why I wasn't annoyed that he "tricked" me. I guess it wasn't a trick, after all. It was help. (Funny, writing this out has helped clarified my feelings and thoughts!)

Hugs back at cha!

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@annewoodmayo

Hey there, Brandysparks!

I'm so glad you like the ice cream idea. 🙂

Being "in" on the joke was just the "sprinkles" on top for me; I would have benefited from the outing even if I never realized my husband only did it for my benefit.

But, I can see how someone might get put off by the trick aspect. I was just grateful for the help.

And I agree that It IS much nicer to have a partner in on the fight! I like that my husband kept up the fight with the ice cream idea when I couldn't do a thing for myself.
I think that was why I wasn't annoyed that he "tricked" me. I guess it wasn't a trick, after all. It was help. (Funny, writing this out has helped clarified my feelings and thoughts!)

Hugs back at cha!

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I understand it all around...and I think it's a very loving, supportive thing.
Warm wishes...

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@ktawater

Thank you for sharing your experience! I would love to talk more.

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Hi Ktawater,

I just read your message with your background details.

Honey, I'm not a professional, but it sounds to me that you are stuck in an emotionally abusive relationship, whether or not it's caused by his depression.

Please seek professional therapy for yourself.

Sounds to me that you have done everything (!) possible to support your husband...over the course of a long time, too. Seems to me that you have done your duty by him.

If he won't see a doctor-therapist AND he won't take his medicine, then he isn't doing the right thing AND he isn't doing right by you! He isn't doing his duty to his wife.

What you wrote about his anger issues kinda makes me worried for your physical safety...And his saying such mean things to you really shocks me.

I'm reluctant to suggest this since I'm not a professional, but here goes: Maybe you should focus on protecting yourself -- your feelings and your physical health. Maybe you should leave the situation.
Maybe your leaving him would help him? I don't know... this is just my impression. I hope that I am not over-reacting to the background information that you gave us.

Please consult a professional and keep us all posted here. If you are religious, maybe consult with your pastor/leader as soon as possible.

Hugs and blessings to you!

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