Kevzara (sarilumab) to treat PMR

Posted by hfoster @hfoster, Oct 11, 2022

I am 54, diagnosed with PMR June 2022 but symptoms started Nov 2021. I have tapered Pred to 8mg and most days my pain is around a 2 or 3 out of 10. Reasonable, I felt for active PMR and I'll take Tylenol Arthritis to help with pain if needed. But, my Rheumatologist wants me off Pred ASAP. He wants me to take Kevzara and says studies have shown that it gets rid of PMR and the drug should be approved to treat PMR by this spring. Has anyone been part of the trials and/or had experience using this drug to treat PMR?

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@ozblossom

After 15 months of prednisone/Medrol tapers I have failed both trials. Rheumatology recommending Kevzara (FDA approved for PMR) injections. Would appreciate anyone’s experience with this drug and cost after insurance (I have Medicare and supplemental) if you would be willing to share. Many thanks.

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I found the site a little confusing as to where to post a new comment -- I just wrote in somewhere about suddenly waking up in pain when med dosage had been working fine.

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@ozblossom

After 15 months of prednisone/Medrol tapers I have failed both trials. Rheumatology recommending Kevzara (FDA approved for PMR) injections. Would appreciate anyone’s experience with this drug and cost after insurance (I have Medicare and supplemental) if you would be willing to share. Many thanks.

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I've been on it for three months and it seems to have helped -- they say it can take this long to start working. I have Medicare and a supplement and still there would have been a $1700 a month co-pay. I'm on a plan with the drug company to pick up the co-pay.

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@paulagcl

I found the site a little confusing as to where to post a new comment -- I just wrote in somewhere about suddenly waking up in pain when med dosage had been working fine.

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@paulagcl, Your previous post was here in the PMR treatment w Kevzara discussion - https://connect.mayoclinic.org/comment/890320/.

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@dadcue

That was hope my rheumatologist gave me too about Actemra. That was before Kevzara was FDA approved for PMR.

My rheumatologist encouraged me to give Actemra a try about 4 years ago. The nice part about Actemra was that, unlike prednisone, Actemra can be stopped easily. My rheumatololgist assured me that Actemra could be stopped if it didn't work or the side effects were too severe. I certainly have NOT had any serious infections since being on Actemra but infections are still possible.

I started feeling better when Actemra kept the inflammation in check instead of prednisone. PMR flares haven't happened as long as I continue Actemra. It would be nice to be able to stop Actemra sometime in the future.

I was just fortunate to be able to taper off prednisone after taking it for 12 years to treat PMR. My adrenals were not working well when my cortisol level was checked. I had to taper down to 3 mg of prednisone in order to have my cortisol level checked. It took about a year for my cortisol level to increase and I was able to stop prednisone.

Cortisol is the hormone that regulates inflammation. The prednisone we take replaces the cortisol that the adrenals produce. Too much or too little cortisol is detrimental to the body. There was no way of knowing how much prednisone I needed at any given time.

Prednisone is a poor substitute for the cortisol our bodies produce and more importantly, how our cortisol levels are regulated by the HPA axis. There was no way for me to regulate how much cortisol I needed with the precision that the HPA axis regulates cortisol.
https://www.verywellhealth.com/hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal-hpa-axis-5222557
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I was taking ten other medications to treat prednisone related side effects. Cortisol is a hormone that regulates many other things besides inflammation.
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/22187-cortisol
Prednisone was regulating inflammation because of PMR but it caused many other things to become unregulated. Being off prednisone has allowed me to stop six of the medications I was taking to control my blood pressure, cholesterol level and a few other things.

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Thank you -- this is good info as to how cortisone works.

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@dadcue

My rheumatologist was diplomatic about the risk of infections from these medications. She said it was because of "too much immunosupression."

The goal of all these medications is to suppress the immune system. That is the treatment for autoimmune disorders. Prednisone might me the most potent immunosuppressive medication of them all which is why it works so well.

I'm on a biologic now and I was able to taper completely off prednisone. If my experience counts for anything, I haven't had a serious infection since being off prednisone. Yes, a serious infection is still a possibility.

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This is encouraging!

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@dadcue

How are you doing with Actemra? I think you were lucky to start Actemra as quickly as you did. I wish I could have tried Actemra much sooner.

Twelve years on prednisone with all the inherent risks and side effects of prednisone was a very long time. I'm not so sure managing the symptoms of PMR with long term prednisone and waiting for PMR to "burn itself out" is a good approach to the problem anymore.

When adrenal suppression starts to happen, it becomes more difficult to taper off prednisone. The slow taper that people are told to do when starting out on prednisone is because of the side effect of adrenal insufficiency. I believe when there isn't enough cortisol to regulate inflammation then the risk of a relapse increases. The symptoms of adrenal insufficiency also increase. Both conditions mimic each other.

I don't know how many of my symptoms were from PMR and how many symptoms were caused by adrenal insufficiency. I think it was a combination of both.

I have stopped Actema twice after I tapered off prednisone. My rheumatologist didn't exactly want to stop Actemra. The supply of Actemra during covid was limited and I couldn't get my prescription refilled. My rheumatologist said I could take prednisone again if I absolutely needed to. I held out as long as I could but I needed 15 mg again after about 3 months. I wouldn't call it a flare or at least not a sudden increase in symptoms. It was more of a gradually increase in pain as my inflammation markers crept higher.

I was only on 15 mg of prednisone again for about 2 months before Actemra was available again. I tapered down from 15 mg back to zero in less than 2 months that time.

I'm not sure my symptoms were PMR symptoms as much as my adrenals were having difficulty regulating inflammation. In any case, I felt I needed prednisone again. I joked with my rheumatologist that I was a prednisone junkie and I needed a cortisol fix.

I didn't realize how much adrenal insufficiency factored into the equation until Actemra allowed me to taper down to low dose prednisone. I kept telling myself that Actemra was controlling my PMR symptoms and I didn't need prednisone anymore. I had a hard time convincing myself but eventually I didn't need prednisone anymore.

Now I need to figure out how to wean myself off Actemra. My rheumatologist says I may have a problem with "immune system memory." He says the immune system develops a memory for things that are foreign to the body. The same thing happens with autoimmune disorders. The immune system can't distinguish my own tissues (good stuff) from the bad stuff. Unfortunately the immune system acquires a memory for the good stuff and may have develop a "long term memory" for attacking me or the good stuff. My rheumatologist says it isn't likely that my immune system will forget anytime soon what it has been attacking for so many years.

Maybe if remission could have been achieved sooner, my immune system wouldn't have a long term memory for attacking me. I might have a better chance for a long term remission.

Does this make sense?? I'm still trying to wrap my head around some of the things my rheumatologist says. I don't think there is anyway to knowing what will happen in regards to having a relapse. I'm more in a try it and see mode.

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You wrote: "How are you doing with Actemra?"

Actemra seems to be working well for me, and had helped me tapered down to 8 mg/day of Prednisone. Assuming no relapses, I should be off Prednisone by October '23.

My sleep returned once the Prednisone dosage hit 20 mg/day (down from 60 mg/day) in early May.

Sleep allowed true healing to begin.

Since I've been sleeping, my energy has returned and my strength is steadily increasing. I'm walking 2-3 miles a day over the San Francisco hills, and lifting weights 3 times each week.

My blood tests are very near my pre-PMR/GCA levels, although the white blood count is mildly elevated from my past pre-illness counts (now at ~6700/uL; pre-illness levels were 4400 - 5500/uL ).

My inflammation scores are staying low with CRP < 0.4 mg/dL. At one point before treatment it hit CRP=34.7 mg/dL. My ESR, which has been reasonably low recently at 3-5 mm/hr, dropped even lower to 1 mm/hr in my last test. Before treatment, during the height of my illness, it was over 90 mm/hr.

Actemra really seems to be working for me. I'm continuing with weekly Actemra self-injections. The doctors say I'll need it for a year or more. The only side effect I've noticed is a slight increase in my liver (ALT) scores.

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@paulagcl

I've been on it for three months and it seems to have helped -- they say it can take this long to start working. I have Medicare and a supplement and still there would have been a $1700 a month co-pay. I'm on a plan with the drug company to pick up the co-pay.

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@paulagcl can you clarify please -- your PMR started three months ago ( i think you implied on a different conversation) AND you are on Kevzara for 3 months ? what dose of Prednisone were you (ever) on ? Thanks

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@ozblossom

After 15 months of prednisone/Medrol tapers I have failed both trials. Rheumatology recommending Kevzara (FDA approved for PMR) injections. Would appreciate anyone’s experience with this drug and cost after insurance (I have Medicare and supplemental) if you would be willing to share. Many thanks.

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He started me on 20mg prednisone. I was feeling dizzy so he cut it back to 10. Meanwhile I was setting up getting the Kevzara paid for and ordered, so Istarted that about two weeks later, I think it was. The idea is to wean me off the cortisone. I am on 9 mg right now. So far so good and I finally got brave enough to give myself an injection--before that I kept going into the drs office until I could see his nurse was done with that!!!

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@paulagcl

He started me on 20mg prednisone. I was feeling dizzy so he cut it back to 10. Meanwhile I was setting up getting the Kevzara paid for and ordered, so Istarted that about two weeks later, I think it was. The idea is to wean me off the cortisone. I am on 9 mg right now. So far so good and I finally got brave enough to give myself an injection--before that I kept going into the drs office until I could see his nurse was done with that!!!

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WOW !
I told @paulagcl Paula in a private message that she was the PMR patient of the future ! NO fooling around with Prednisone tapering -
ha ha your reply about the nurse is funny ! i think i would be squeamish, too ,about learning to inject myself ! Be Brave - and best of luck !!

At the European Meeting of Rheumatology this past May - the follow up to the Saphyr trial was presented - i will attach the abstract below .
The American College of Rheumaotlogy Meeting will be in SanDiego in Nov !

SUSTAINED REMISSION FROM WEEKS 16 TO 52 AND WEEKS 24 TO 52 IN PATIENTS TREATED WITH SARILUMAB: POST-HOC ANALYSIS OF SAPHYR TRIAL IN PATIENTS WITH POLYMYALGIA RHEUMATICA

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SUSTAINED REMISSION FROM WEEKS 16 TO 52 AND WEEKS 24 TO 52 IN PATIENTS... (SUSTAINED-REMISSION-FROM-WEEKS-16-TO-52-AND-WEEKS-24-TO-52-IN-PATIENTS….pdf)

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@ozblossom

After 15 months of prednisone/Medrol tapers I have failed both trials. Rheumatology recommending Kevzara (FDA approved for PMR) injections. Would appreciate anyone’s experience with this drug and cost after insurance (I have Medicare and supplemental) if you would be willing to share. Many thanks.

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This is hopeful! I am having some pain again now -- I didn't realize that there are ups and downs with inflammation so I am trying to stay calm. A headache.
I am grateful for this support group -- thanks to all of you. So here is some humor!!!! I am trying to follow the anti-inflammation diet, no red meat. So I just woke up having dreamt that I went to restaurant after restaurant ordering a steak! Thick, so a filet mignon. Medium rare. Perfectly grilled. One of the places was named the same as one my family went to when I was growing up in Miami -- the Embers. Now I am awake, craving a steak.

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