Caregivers need emotional support too

Posted by talkativeinfl @talkativeinfl, Jun 5, 2023

As a caregiver to my husband who was diagnosed with PNet in September of 22 and found out that he has had it since 2014 undiagnosed until September when they removed a benign mass from his colon but found suspicious spots on his abdominal wall.

When he was 1st diagnosed (before the oncologist got all his records and found out how long he had actually had this cancer) his oncologist said that this was a slow growing cancer and my husband would have between 2 to 5 yrs. Well at age 75 we were ok with that. Fast forward to about a month and a half later and they did a galiaum scan and got his medical records from baptist downtown NOW they have the full picture.

I asked the oncologist "now that you have the full picture of the cancer history and progression, what is your prognosis" he looked at me odd. I said well you did say 2 to 5 yrs when we first met with you, now that you know its stage 4 whats the prognosis,(I wanted to prepare both my husband and I), The doctor replied " I dont like to assign numbers, it can hurt the patients outcome or give them false hope"! I was thinking, you were quick to throw out numbers before you knew the full story.

I am still working and dealing with a back injury and fighting workers comp and all the bills this disease brings. I feel horrible because I cant be home with him as I watch him slip further and further away from me. My shift leaves me about 2 hrs before work (if he is awake) and about 2 to 3 hrs after before we both go to bed but he his usually dosing in his chair so not so much quality time.

I had to tell him that we could not afford to rent a convertible he wanted to rent to take day trips, when I take off next month for a week because of all the bills. NOW I feel like I just took away the last thing he really wanted to do. How do I deny him that even if its at my own peril.

I no longer spend time doing things I love well we both love because I am just bone tired and so is he usually. He can not take too much cold and I cant take heat due to my heart so it leaves very little common ground since anything below 82 seems to make him cold nowdays.

Having someone who truly understands without feeling like I want something from them other then someone to talk to is non existant. Most of our "friends" have disappeared, no calls, texts etc

I cant really talk about things with my husband because it worries him or upsets him when he is altered so I just hide away and cry but put on a game face for everyone else. Who do caregivers have to help us??

To anyone who met my husband today you wouldnt think he was in too bad of shape but if you REALLY know him, you see it. Even our new doc who has only seen him about 3 times noticed his altered state and will be testing him next month at his next visit. Its subtle changes in his moods and behavior or his ability to recall things or even do simple tasks that were once his strong suit like math in the check book. I started to get concerned about this when he messed up the checking account 2 months in a row (totally out of character) but when the 3rd month left him confused about how to fix his mistake even though I was using the simplest explanation possible that I realized the cancer may have now spread to his brain too. It started in his pancreas but went undiagnosed at that time when he had a mass removed along with his spleen. Now it is in his liver with "too numerous to count tumors" and on his abdominal wall where it was 1st detected. UGH

CANCER SUCKS

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@talkativeinfl

I have been thinking about that for a while and broached the subject with my husband once giving him all the benefits of having hospice come in early so that we can establish a trusted group but he dug his heels in saying he was not about to have a stranger come to check on him even if it was only once a month until it was ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY. It has to be in his time and his decision as it has been for our whole marriage. I have to suggest things and let them drop so he can think about them and come up with the idea. I just FINALLY got him to decide he needed to look at the will, power of attorney and living will 3 month or so after we had them done online so that we can get them witnessed and notarized. Its got to be in his time for everything so I tend to believe him when he says I need to save my vacation time for his time. I told him he wasnt going anywhere this year and he said "yes I am love, yes I am".

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Bless you and all you are managing with your dear husband. Cancer does Suck. We are in my husbands week 2 of HN cancer stage 2 chemo PEG and radiation.

I wanted to share that you could beg your husband or demand you have hospice and/or a caregiver come in twice a week. My mom was in terrible shape before she passed, and her husband ( who is NO care-giver but a pain in the neck-giver (using nice words) would not allow hospice or a caregiver to come into their home. I pushed and he begrudgingly relented but I he found it of high benefit --as he didn't want to help because it took away from his train computer games. --and they took care of my MOM when I couldn't be there. They loved her and nurtured her. So grateful . Hope you can get the help you need. It's not fair for you to have to manage everything and work full time.. it will be too stressful for you . Take care of you 🤍 too.

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@becsbuddy

@bigmaya and @blue2 I know an in person support group would be so helpful for you. Have you checked with the Area Agency on Aging in your town. They might know of some support groups. If their is a social worker in the doctor’s office, they might know of resources. There are some Facebook groups, also.
I hope you find some support soon.

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Thanks much for the reply.
The support groups I went to were not very helpful but I only went to two. The Facebook idea is worth a try.
I appreciate it!

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@becsbuddy

@bigmaya and @blue2 I know an in person support group would be so helpful for you. Have you checked with the Area Agency on Aging in your town. They might know of some support groups. If their is a social worker in the doctor’s office, they might know of resources. There are some Facebook groups, also.
I hope you find some support soon.

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Thanks much for the reply.
The support groups I went to were not very helpful but I only went to two. The Facebook idea is worth a try.
I appreciate the ideas.

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@linric70

Thank you for your supporting words. I wish you the best in your journey.
The interesting thing I found when we went in for the diagnosis was a “no recording” sign. We recorded him anyway😄

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Thank you for the good wishes🙏
Good for you!!! Recording him, hope you can make good use of that! He deserves to be exposed! All the best🙏😸🦉

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@becsbuddy

@bigmaya and @blue2 I know an in person support group would be so helpful for you. Have you checked with the Area Agency on Aging in your town. They might know of some support groups. If their is a social worker in the doctor’s office, they might know of resources. There are some Facebook groups, also.
I hope you find some support soon.

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Hello Becky and thank you!
Hope YOU are doing well.
Though considered a high end place (we just rent to have a small garden and a place for our cats) the so called social services are practically non-existent here. I've been knocking on doors for over a year now without response. I've made it clear to them that it's not money or food stamps that l'm looking for but some emotional support, companionship but ZERO so far. I have a social worker from our health fund l talk to 45 minutes, on the phone, once a week... but that's all. She hides behind an "outgoing calls only" number so l can't even reach out if l need her. Enough of my ranting🦉😸🙏

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@clkurth

I’m managing through the early stages of dementia with my husband. He’s a progressively worsening handful. I think I know how you must be feeling. I keep saying I could use ten good people to help out around the house but no one shows up here either. I’m so sorry you are feeling alone. If we were neighbors, I’d be right over with a fresh baked banana bread. Hope this message gives you some uplifting. Breathe for a moment, take an Epsom salt bath with lavender and try to go to bed early. Crack a window at night and listen to the rain or the night birds. This will bring you some peace.

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I am right there with you. Reach out to the Council on Aging in your area. Is your husband a veteran? If so, there are things they can help with. This is such a terrible path to travel. My husband is in mid-stage Alzheimer's. I have already been hospitalized for severe anxiety and major depression this past month. It is so very hard. It is really nice to share stories or ideas, but of course, every brain and every patient is different. Hang in there. Good vibes to you.

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@becsbuddy

@linric70 I am so sorry, your doctor isn’t helping you very much at all, is he? I think you have the right now to ask for a second opinion. You need doctor who is caring. Maybe see if you can get a referral to Palliative Care. They are very good and try to help you with managing side effects of medicines.
https://www.nia.nih.gov/health/what-are-palliative-care-and-hospice-care#:~:text=Patients%20in%20palliative%20care%20may,for%20them%20and%20their%20family. This link will give you more information about palliative care.
When you contacted the drug company, did you speak to someone in customer service? Or, did your doctor call on your behalf?

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Thank you for the information.

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