I follow an alternative "triple anticoagulation" protocol that features...Boluoke lumbrokinase (2x daily/B.I.D.), Cardiokinase nattokinase (1x daily), & chewable 81 mg aspirin (1x daily)--& cleared a femoral arterial clot in my right leg with it (in 3 days).
This way I take advantage of the proteolytic/fibrinolytic properties of the lumbrokinase & nattokinase...& the anti-platelet-forming properties of aspirin. The Boluoke lumbrokinase has a registered Canadian FDA trial behind it...which illustrated its clot-targeting proteolytic/fibrinolytic action.
In addition, over time, 3-plus weeks & counting, my systolic blood pressure (which I measure twice daily) has dropped 5 mm/hg--& stabilised there...with the implementation of this natural "triple anticoagulant" therapy.
That's a clinically significant drop in (stabilised) systolic blood pressure.
Yes I have read about the "kinases" on the afibbers forum. But I have concerns about anticoagulation, period, with small hematomas on my skin already, and aspirin would irritate my already sensitive gut. My blood pressure is too low in general. We are all different!
If my afib returns and increases, I would consider what you are doing.
Hi, @tinkercat. I'm 10 years older than you and dealing with similar circulation problems. We may have very different types of A-fib though. Mine is now almost asymptomatic -- no feelings of irregular heartbeats, no breathing difficulties -- although I suffered a "small stroke" 7 years ago that put me on an anti-coagulant -- in my case, Warfarin (Coumadin). That drug brings with it periodic lab tests to make sure its anti-coagulation effects stay within a range that prevents extreme symptoms (bleeding or blood clots). In short, I have no fear that the drug is risky for me to take. As to my hypertension, my special recipe involves several specialized medications -- Carvedilol (a beta blocker to tune down A-fib heartbeats), Amiloride (diuretic that is potassium-sparing), and Eplerenone (diuretic that also addresses my overactive adrenal glands). It has taken a series of medical teams several years to derive my special anti-hypertension recipe, and that emphasizes the importance of bringing a group of cooperating physicians together in search of a stable, reliable treatment plan. My team includes a nephrologist, a cardiologist, and an endocrinologist in addition to my Primary Care Physician and -- at one crucial time -- a genetic consultant on some variations I inherited. I hope you can find a way to have that kind of a medical team to remove your concerns about the risks you feel. Martin
Fascinating that you are on Eplereonone, which targets melanocortin (MC) receptors to aid in the regulation of the oft-cited villain of aldosterone dysregulation (which very often figures largely in triggering LAF or paroxysmal AF)! This may well be "secret sauce" that many of us Afibbers need (but rarely get).
Yes I have read about the "kinases" on the afibbers forum. But I have concerns about anticoagulation, period, with small hematomas on my skin already, and aspirin would irritate my already sensitive gut. My blood pressure is too low in general. We are all different!
If my afib returns and increases, I would consider what you are doing.
Well, concerns about gastro-intestinal irritation (from oral administration of aspirin)...led me to choose...chewable low-dose aspirin, which I allow to dissolve under my tongue. Doing so bypasses the G.I. system altogether.
Well, concerns about gastro-intestinal irritation (from oral administration of aspirin)...led me to choose...chewable low-dose aspirin, which I allow to dissolve under my tongue. Doing so bypasses the G.I. system altogether.
Gosh, I have had the opinions of three cardiologists, no, four—my grandson is a cardiologist as well (!) and two general practitioners over the years. Aspirin is my choice and I feel so much better that I will never go back.
I hope I am not being a bad influence, but as individuals we really do need to remember that we each have the authority to choose the quality of life we need in order to thrive in the now.
Addendum to the last reply:
If thriving in the now is our first choice! If my husband was still alive, I would do everything possible to make sure I could be here with him and maintain the life we shared as long as possible. Our children seem content as they are retiring. Our grandchildren are having babies. All is well.
Gosh, I have had the opinions of three cardiologists, no, four—my grandson is a cardiologist as well (!) and two general practitioners over the years. Aspirin is my choice and I feel so much better that I will never go back.
I hope I am not being a bad influence, but as individuals we really do need to remember that we each have the authority to choose the quality of life we need in order to thrive in the now.
@artmatters none of my docs seem to think aspirin is effective in preventing stroke from afib and of course they worry about GI bleeding and anemia. I have very infrequent but dramatic afib with tachycardia but declined blood thinners. I am always aware of afib, fortunately. That makes me lucky.
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Yes I have read about the "kinases" on the afibbers forum. But I have concerns about anticoagulation, period, with small hematomas on my skin already, and aspirin would irritate my already sensitive gut. My blood pressure is too low in general. We are all different!
If my afib returns and increases, I would consider what you are doing.
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2 ReactionsFascinating that you are on Eplereonone, which targets melanocortin (MC) receptors to aid in the regulation of the oft-cited villain of aldosterone dysregulation (which very often figures largely in triggering LAF or paroxysmal AF)! This may well be "secret sauce" that many of us Afibbers need (but rarely get).
Well, concerns about gastro-intestinal irritation (from oral administration of aspirin)...led me to choose...chewable low-dose aspirin, which I allow to dissolve under my tongue. Doing so bypasses the G.I. system altogether.
Cheers & all the best.
That's a good tip. When I chew it I think I swallow it, so under the tongue is a good idea. However my kidney doc would not be happy!
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2 ReactionsHa! Too many doctors (read: masters) to please 🙂
Gosh, I have had the opinions of three cardiologists, no, four—my grandson is a cardiologist as well (!) and two general practitioners over the years. Aspirin is my choice and I feel so much better that I will never go back.
I hope I am not being a bad influence, but as individuals we really do need to remember that we each have the authority to choose the quality of life we need in order to thrive in the now.
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If thriving in the now is our first choice! If my husband was still alive, I would do everything possible to make sure I could be here with him and maintain the life we shared as long as possible. Our children seem content as they are retiring. Our grandchildren are having babies. All is well.
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1 Reaction@artmatters none of my docs seem to think aspirin is effective in preventing stroke from afib and of course they worry about GI bleeding and anemia. I have very infrequent but dramatic afib with tachycardia but declined blood thinners. I am always aware of afib, fortunately. That makes me lucky.
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