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Body vibrations --> insomnia??

Posted by sgeneris @sgeneris, Feb 13, 2023

1. In October last year I started experiencing something weird that I found discussed in this forum:

- Body vibrations when falling asleep https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/body-vibrations

Further research did not reveal anything. My PCP and a UCSF neurologist had nothing to say.

2. Then I had an onset of insomnia: for the last two weeks I have not been able to fall asleep without at least 7.5mg of Temazepam, and even with that I would get only 3-5 hours of sleep with wakeups. My PCP recommended Mirtazapin for its sedative effect, and before trying it I opened a discussion here:

- Temazepam to Mirtazapin https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/temazepam-to-mirtazepin/

I did not make a 1-2 connection until last night.

Usually I am unaware of the exact point of falling asleep -- that's how it happens. But last night, while trying to fall asleep without Temazepam I realized that because the vibrations mark exactly that point and are rather an unpleasant sensation, they give a mental jolt that stops the process -- hence insomnia.

If I am right, eliminating the vibrations is the only solutions but since nobody knows about them...

Anybody experienced this? Thoughts, ideas?

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Sleep Health Support Group.

sgeneris | @sgeneris | Feb 17, 2023
In reply to @sierrafiedeffect "I can't say they went away entirely as I feel the sensation from time to time,..." + (show)
@sierrafiedeffect

I can't say they went away entirely as I feel the sensation from time to time, maybe a few times a week. But not daily and never to the extent of being kept awake anymore. I also eliminated substances that suppress my central nervous system, like alcohol as it seems to also aggravate it.

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I never had alcohol.

Most meds they recommend for depression/anxiety suppress the nervous system, so how are they solutions to insomnia?

How long have you had this? I ask because there are some references to COVID and COVID vaccine -- did you have either and did the problem appeared after?

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sierrafiedeffect | @sierrafiedeffect | Feb 17, 2023
In reply to @sgeneris "Was there a specific deficiency/cause identified which, when eliminated, made them better? This is 3rd week..." + (show)
@sgeneris

Was there a specific deficiency/cause identified which, when eliminated, made them better?

This is 3rd week that I cannot fall asleep without at least 7.5mg Temazepam every night and even though it's the lowest doze, it's not advisable longer. It already shows signs of ineffectiveness, I get very tired and yet I cannot sleep. I don't want to go higher doze.

I did extensive research on all med options . My PCP recommended Mirtazapin, but I have some questions/concerns. Problem is my access to him, let alone a specialist, is limited and slow. This is scary and exacerbates my condition.

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Yes, Vitamin D & Iron.

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sierrafiedeffect | @sierrafiedeffect | Feb 17, 2023
In reply to @sgeneris "I never had alcohol. Most meds they recommend for depression/anxiety suppress the nervous system, so how..." + (show)
@sgeneris

I never had alcohol.

Most meds they recommend for depression/anxiety suppress the nervous system, so how are they solutions to insomnia?

How long have you had this? I ask because there are some references to COVID and COVID vaccine -- did you have either and did the problem appeared after?

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This happened for me prior to having a covid vaccine but possibly many months after having unverified covid in early 2020.

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sgeneris | @sgeneris | Feb 17, 2023
In reply to @2tnt "Maybe look into eating a low histamine diet. If you notice improvement, look into MCAS." + (show)
@2tnt

Maybe look into eating a low histamine diet. If you notice improvement, look into MCAS.

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I checked CMAS and I doubt that. I am 74 and this has started suddenly sometime in October last year.

I am more suspicious of the COVID vaccine -- there are some claimed connections to it.

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sgeneris | @sgeneris | Feb 17, 2023
In reply to @sierrafiedeffect "This happened for me prior to having a covid vaccine but possibly many months after having..." + (show)
@sierrafiedeffect

This happened for me prior to having a covid vaccine but possibly many months after having unverified covid in early 2020.

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There are tons of known and unknown effects of both COVID and the vaccine, but nobody wants to admit or deal with them because (1) they dk how to and (2) don't want to touch the subject and admit that we were guinea pigs that enriched big pharma and generated humongous problems without any responsibility.

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