Restless Leg Syndrome

Posted by jimbourg8 @jimbourg8, May 14, 2016

I started having this burning feeling in certain pressure points in my body. Mostly on the elbows, under forearms mostly on my left side ....mostly worse in the late afternoon and evening. It's usually burning and/or uncomfortable feeling when I am sitting down on couch or chair. the burning sensation like I said on pressure points of the elbows, legs, or butt when sitting even if only 2 mins or so and seems like I can't remain still.......upon getting up and moving around it relieves the sensation. Went to neurologist 4 years ago..........he confirmed that it was Restless leg syndrome............there are different types of RLS but the classic symptoms are a feeling of burning, tingling, and a general sense of unable to relax when quietly sitting or even laying down and relief comes when changing position and/or getting up. Diagnosis is by symptoms....there is not a definitive diagnostic test.........all bloodwork etc.... is normal . I now take Gabapentin, and Klonopin to calm the "restless" nerves...........there is no cure for this ( my Neurologist says )........It's just something you have to learn to live with and take those medications for it..........It is believed there is a link between low iron (which I had) and and RLS . Now I take more iron (but that does not alleivate the symptoms so far . ( even when iron level becomes normal ) . I was diagnosed with low thyroid 5 years ago and started taking the levothyroxine to put my thyroid back to normal which it IS NOW. But even though I still have the RLS........there is a possiblity that I had LOW thyroid for years before I was diagnosed with it........hence I think (my theory) the RLS evolved due to the years of LOW thyroid. This is just my thinking on this. No Dr. Told me of that.....anyways I hope maybe this helps others and they can begin to pinpoint their symptoms and get a diagnoses.
I would love to know others with RLS and how they have dealt with it over the years. It seems to be a tricky act to balance the medications with side effects and still manage the RLS........appreciate any feedback. Thanks Jim B.

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@rjjb

How do you cope with RLS? I've had it for
more than 30 years, and there seems to be
very little help for us sufferers.

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Hi @rjjb, I moved your post to the RLS discussion that you posted to before. I did this so you can connect with all the people suffering with the same problem.
What medicines have you tried already and what was the duration you were on them?

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I've been taking Pramipexole for about two years.
It does help ease the RLS, but is no cure.

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@nataliem

Have you tried putting Vicks on your legs? Sounds crazy, but it works. I read this tip in Terry Wahls’s book, The Wahls Protocol. I also suffer from occasional restless legs, but the Vicks takes it away. Messy, but worth it, and no pills!

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Can also try magnesium.

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My cherished PCP advised me that my arm aches were Restless Leg Syndrome - but in my arms! It really feels like a highly unpleasant, unrelenting "pulling" sensation - like your limbs have a rubber band inside whose tension can't be released or relieved.

He mentioned some medications, but cautioned of some rare but serious side effects that kept me away from even considering them. However, he did advise that quinine can be most helpful, but that it cannot be prescribed, by law. BUT, that trying tonic water - which contains quinine - might be worth trying. I did try it for a bit, and it seemed to help, but then the effect - for me - wained.

But every once in a while I have the tonic water - actually quite refreshing, and can come in a no calorie version. I also wonder whether not drinking enough water could contribute to this, but haven't asked specifically. Of course, not drinking enough water leads to numerous other issues, so I need to consume more as a rule anyway - but seems I can't get enough of my iced tea to start with, so that's my default beverage!

Hope this might help some folks.

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Is this the area to discuss RLS?

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@mcd123

Is this the area to discuss RLS?

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@mcd123, you will find discussions about restless leg syndrome in the Brain & Nervous System group as well as in the Sleep Health group. To get you connected with others, I moved your message to this existing discussion:
- Restless Leg Syndrome https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/restless-leg-syndrome-2a74e5/

Is this a new development for you MCD? Do your legs' restlessness disturb your sleep?

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@pcka

I have had severe restless leg syndrome for 30 plus years. I’m taking Parkinson’s pills and gabapentin for nerve pain. Neither drug is working any more I’m at the point that I hate going to bed, it also is severe when I sit or lay on couch. Has any one tried stem cell therapy for treatment? Thanks for replies

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In terms of your pain, have your looked into Kratom? I am actually getting off of Hydromophone as it has become totally ineffective for my pain anymore, at its height the morphine was covering maybe 20-25% of the pain. Kratom covers for me 70% and is far safer than opioids. Its fairly inexpensive, doesn't have a high, isn't an opioid, is a close relative to the coffee plant and works when literally nothing works for my pain and I have tried Gabapentin, Pregabalin, Lyrica, Tylonal 3s, Codeine Contin, Amitriptyline, Cannabis.

Damn I just noticed im replying to a comment from 2017, hopefully you havent been in utter pain this entire time!

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Im just going to start off saying sorry but I havent read all the 26 pages of replies.

In terms of your thyroid, id say thats a good possibility it could be causing your restless legs @jimbourg8. Years ago I had low and enlarged thyroid, what solved that for me was Nascent Iodine. But there is also the possibility that one of your meds could be causing the restless legs so I would keep that in mind.

Back when I was taking Seroquel it used to give me the rankest restless legs about 15 minutes after I took it, was a real nightmare to take along with many other psychiatric meds. I learned about a drug induced inner restlessness state called Akathisia where I would feel like I need to be sitting as soon as I was moving, and as soon as I was moving I felt like I needed to sit down in perpetuity. It was terrible and very similar to restless legs syndrome but your entire body and mind.

My father is a retired physician so if there was any better drug to treat motor restlessness id probably know about it, anyway the drug they would always give people at the psych ward for restless legs was Benztropine Mesyl (cogentin) so id suggest asking your psychiatrist about that one sometime as its typically a medication they deal with.

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@vickiekay

Try drinking Tonic Water....my Mayo doctor suggested a "gin and tonic<br>without the gin"! The quinine in the tonic water WILL take the jitters away<br>from the restless leg syndrome. I think that the tonic water tastes bitter,<br>so I mix it with crushed ice and a little fruit juice, such as cherry juice<br>or orange juice. It is AMAZING how much it helps after drinking a glass<br>every day. I use regular, not diet, tonic water. Best wishes!<br>

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I have RLS and it’s mostly every night. I’ve had 6 back surgeries and permanent nerve damage. I was wondering if this was the reason. But thinking about it, this condition started being more permanent as I started aging. I’m now 64. My Dr. Once told me about tonic water, but I hate the taste and I don’t drink. So I found Quinine on Amazon. I put a few drops into my water cup that I drink during the night and it seems to help most of the time. I must have tried just about everything else and this seems to be about the best yet. If you do it on a regular basis, it seems to have help for me about 80 % of the time. I also take a potassium tablet every so often when I need an extra push. I drink lots of water during the course of a day, and the combo of both help.

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I have had RLS for over 25 years. The only thing that helps me is sleep which is hard for me to come by since I have fibromyalgia. I do take very low dose Seroquel "off label" for sleep. If I sleep I can keep the RLS at bay.
I also tried Neurotin for pain and sleep and it did not work for me.

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