AIP diet for autoimmune illnesses

Posted by bayhorse @bayhorse, Oct 14, 2022

Hi, all: I have celiac disease, ulcerative colitis, and was recently diagnosed with lupus. A nutritionist at my pc's office wants me to go on the Autoimmune Protocol diet, which basically eliminates everything except vegetables (though no nightshades), fruit and animal protein. In other words, no legumes, grains, dairy, eggs (and of course none of the usual "baddies" like alcohol and sugar). The aim is to eliminate lectin-containing foods, which nutritionist says can cause inflammation. I weigh 89 pounds, and cannot imagine how I am supposed to sustain this diet without losing weight. If any of you have done the AIP diet, please let me know how you managed. Thanks!

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I have relied on the AIP for 10 years or so, reverting to the strict phase when I have a concern. I do not lose weight easily, except the third time (10 years past menopause that time, when I'd tried repeatedly and fruitless for 10 years to lose fat to get nearer to a BMI of 25ish) that I cut dairy. That time, I lost 15 + lb in a month, and it's stayed off for 5 years.
The AIP taught me to eat to true hunger, so I'll go for carb-loaded fruit and vegetables (especially sweet potatoes!) when I need more calories. I hope you can give a good try, and trust your body to heal. It's not forever, it's to help healing and then properly re-introduce foods one by one to see if any foods are particularly inflammatory for YOU.

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@gillysmom

AIP diet includes coconut, olive oil, bananas, fatty meat, including bacon, chicken fat, meat fat for extra calories. The diet is not intended as a lifetime destination, but as a way to remove trgger foods, rest the body, and use a carefully stepped approach of adding the restricted foods in small quantties and certan sequences. Many have successfully added eggs, peppers, etc., after the elimination phase. The diet has helped me both bfore the Moderna vaccine 1 injury, and now as well, somewhat modified to include minimal cheese, some nuts. After the strict period of food exclusions, you may be able to reintroduce beans. But consider that they may be contributing to your health problems. All the best with your healing food choices.

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@gillysmom- well it sounds like you have an unusually bad situation. I too had a very bad adverse reaction to the vaccine (Pfizer), and have not gotten over it. Among other things, it made OLP (oral lichen planus) MUCH worse. I think that vax was not properly tested, and it should not have been forced on people. Anyway, it has become clear that it doesn't do most of what they claimed for it.

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@jshdma

@gillysmom- well it sounds like you have an unusually bad situation. I too had a very bad adverse reaction to the vaccine (Pfizer), and have not gotten over it. Among other things, it made OLP (oral lichen planus) MUCH worse. I think that vax was not properly tested, and it should not have been forced on people. Anyway, it has become clear that it doesn't do most of what they claimed for it.

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In addition to the Facebook Autoimmne (AIP) group, which cold be a real sorce of understanding hoe to make the AIP diet work well for you, there are two Covid 19 vaccine injured groups: the first Neuro V Long-Haulers with thousands of members, and the second, Neuro V-6 Long-Halers, a smaller spport group. These groups prove your statement that a group of s, particularly those wth atoimmune susceptbilty, who havebeen gravely inkred by the vaccine. No atoimmne sbjects were nclded in the testsample. But despite their absence, the Moderna was recommended for people with autoimmune diseases. Not good medicine, I agree.

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@jshdma

@johnbishop Thank you this info. I got the impression that the "autoimmune diet" was intended for any autoimmune disease. For IBD it would seem to make sense.

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If you study autoimmune disease as a whole, there is increasing recognition of nutritional and inflammatory triggers. Root cause may not be food, but reducing the autoimmune response via nutrition has significant science behind it. Another source for info, regarding multiple sclerosis in particular, is Terry Wahls, MD, whose work was initially very personally driven. Highly industrialized food is unfortunately not very good for any of us. "Eat real food. Not too much. Mostly plants" --Michael Pollan

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@gillysmom

I have reactivated Hashimoto's thyroiditis, which AIP helped originally and again after Moderna 1 vaccine injury, High ANA and new autoimmune generalized connective tissue inflammation, plus probable EBV with intense body pain and broad food insensitivities, consquent to first Covid vaccine. Modified AIP to deal with new food problems. Meat became a problem. Really sick and bed-bound from incrdible fatigue and body pain. Gluten and dairy free really helps (SUPPLEMENTS, DIET) helps suppress inflammation. Cannot do most autoimmune meds because of sverely suppressed immune syste and weekly subcu gamma globulin replacement therapy. Anthony Williams "liver preserving diet" in "Cleanse to Heal" has helped. Tons of transdermal C+ patches over areas of swelling-pain (Patdhaid) and DMSO 970-30 Aloe Vera) help reduce inflammation. Essential for me to be low stress or autoimmune attack is immediate, severe, with incredible fatigue, legs, feet, joints, swelling. plus. Any suggestions appreciated. Before Modrna 1, I could include cheese and occasional gluten on AIP diet after strict regime as add ins. Remember, the AIP diet includes coconut, sweet potato, bananas, olive oil, fatty meat (bacon, chcken fat, meat fat), whch can raise calories for those people who need to increase same. Watch for calcium-magnesium supplementation needs on this diet, whch is originally intended as a way to reduce food snsitivities before checking out what your body can tolerate in carefully stepped food add ins. I have found that distilled water plus added mineral supplementaton also helps reduce inflammarion. belong to a Facebook AIP group, and thousands claim they were helped, as was I

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How did you determine this was from the Moderna vaccine? All my symptoms started in the past two years and I hadn’t even thought about the vaccine playing a roll. Now I wonder.

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@jshdma

The autoimmune diet described in these messages sounds like a starvation regime. Does this have any official medical support?

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The elimination is temporary.

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@nancyoinnc

If you study autoimmune disease as a whole, there is increasing recognition of nutritional and inflammatory triggers. Root cause may not be food, but reducing the autoimmune response via nutrition has significant science behind it. Another source for info, regarding multiple sclerosis in particular, is Terry Wahls, MD, whose work was initially very personally driven. Highly industrialized food is unfortunately not very good for any of us. "Eat real food. Not too much. Mostly plants" --Michael Pollan

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@nancyoinnc Yes, agree. But I have for decades eating "real food," mostly plant-based, but it does not seem tyo have help my problem (OLP).

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Eat a lot of fat . Add fat like butter coconut oil to your coffee. Personally I would eat eggs loaded with butter, not the same as milk and cheese have no idea why they always lump eggs in with dairy. Might be the whites. In the walh protocol she eats just the yokes. Way too many nutrients in the yoke to be left out. Have broccoli loaded with fats like olive oil or animal fats. By all means avoid seed oils like corn soy they oxidize at room Temps and especially at high Temps like deep frying. Dont eat any fried foods when eating out. I eat ham broccoli eggs frozen beef patties are real convient avocados sardines in olive oil and occasionally cheeses and raw milk that's about it.

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@jshdma

@nancyoinnc Yes, agree. But I have for decades eating "real food," mostly plant-based, but it does not seem tyo have help my problem (OLP).

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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3329692/#:~:text=Oral%20lichen%20planus%20(OLP)%20is,cells%20of%20the%20oral%20epithelium.
I don't know much about OLP, but found it unsurprising that there is yet another viral link postulated- Hep C, so common now. I hope you find help, and that this article is of use to you if you haven't already read it.

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@nancyoinnc

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3329692/#:~:text=Oral%20lichen%20planus%20(OLP)%20is,cells%20of%20the%20oral%20epithelium.
I don't know much about OLP, but found it unsurprising that there is yet another viral link postulated- Hep C, so common now. I hope you find help, and that this article is of use to you if you haven't already read it.

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@nancyoinnc Thank you for this detailed article. Coincidentally, I have been tested for HepC and it was negative. Been to numerous high-level docs, but there appears to be no successful treatment for OLP. Steroids work, but just as a temporary fix. They are not a long-term solution, and can lead to other problems.

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