Scar tissue after knee replacement

Posted by leithlane @leithlane, Jan 31, 2017

I had knee replacement surgery 6 weeks ago . Through PT I have been working on breaking up the scar tissue only for it to regrow by the time I get back to PT two days later. I have been massaging at home, using a hand held massager and roller. It is painful and swollen. I am getting very disheartened. Any suggestions as to what else I can do. Has anyone had laser treatments to break up scar tissue? Were they effective?

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@keeneau1

Sorry to hear you had a bad experience with it. I hope mine will turn out okay.

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keeneau,

If you haven't had surgery yet, please make sure to get your leg(s) in shape ahead of surgery, and then start PT immediately after surgery (they'll have you take a short walk with a PT and a walker in the hospital before they release you).

Do these things and it's unlikely you'll develop scar tissue. Once scar tissue forms, it creates a problem that can't be fixed with therapy alone.

All the best,

Joe

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@681

I had TKR in 2020. Good range of motion but getting up from a chair or coming up stairs still hurt. In 2021 I did more therapy to hopefully break up scar tissue but to no avail. My surgeon was hesitant to open the knee up before a year had passed hoping it would go away. Also a lot of noise on standing. 2 weeks ago I underwent surgical scar tissue. They scoped my knee and took out the scar tissue. Doing well most pain is gone still a little tender from the scope.
I will do some PT to help

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681,

Do a LOT of PT to help, under the guidance of a therapist and at home on your own. You don't want the scar tissue to come back.

Joe

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@goodpeople

Scar tissue is an elusive problem. I had my right knee replaced in Feb. 2021. Within three weeks I was dealing with excruciating pain, mostly on the lateral side. I tried acupuncture, traditional PT, MFR, genicular nerve ablation-all to no avail. Very reluctantly, my surgeon agreed to open it up again-full incision-to try to identify the source of my pain. Two weeks ago today, he Operated and found significant scar tissue throughout, most especially involving the IT band-the cause of the most significant pain. Two days post surgery I was walking with no aids and climbing stairs. I spend most of my time icing, icing, icing and have started PT with a concentration on ROM. It seems as if scar tissue is a very real complication, that it can appear even years after the initial surgery, and there’s little that can be done to prevent it. I replaced my left knee three months before this left one and had no problem whatsoever. Good luck!

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goodpeople,

I think the chances of developing scar tissue can be drastically reduced by doing all the recommended PT immediately after a TKR. It worked for me. You know that once the scar tissue forms, it's hell to get it out.

So to all contemplating a TKR, get in shape first, and follow the therapist guidelines every day for at least 6 weeks, or as your condition demands. TKR is an amazing, life-changing procedure but the patient has to do about 90% of the work!

All the best,

Joe

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@heyjoe415

goodpeople,

I think the chances of developing scar tissue can be drastically reduced by doing all the recommended PT immediately after a TKR. It worked for me. You know that once the scar tissue forms, it's hell to get it out.

So to all contemplating a TKR, get in shape first, and follow the therapist guidelines every day for at least 6 weeks, or as your condition demands. TKR is an amazing, life-changing procedure but the patient has to do about 90% of the work!

All the best,

Joe

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While I agree that PT is the key to a good piece of this, I would have to counter that sometimes that is not the solution. In my case, I spent four months in PT, 3X week, and it did not halt the spread of scar tissue. I had two therapists who commented on my commitment to get myself whole again. Some people’s bodies just produce scar tissue and it has nothing to do with their commitment to PT…it just happens.

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@heyjoe415

keeneau,

If you haven't had surgery yet, please make sure to get your leg(s) in shape ahead of surgery, and then start PT immediately after surgery (they'll have you take a short walk with a PT and a walker in the hospital before they release you).

Do these things and it's unlikely you'll develop scar tissue. Once scar tissue forms, it creates a problem that can't be fixed with therapy alone.

All the best,

Joe

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Hi Joe, First I want to thank you for your friendly and caring manner as you share with others on Connect. You are also a dedicated...."You can do this!' person, especially in support of PT before and after surgery.

Now....I do have a response to your statement above, "once scar tissue forms, it creates a problem that can't be fixed with therapy alone". Fortunately for me, I discovered MFR (myofascial release therapy) when my first TKR was about 3 years old and scar tissue was beginning to make itself recognized with pain and discomfort. My MFR therapist recognized it, diagnosed it, and relieved me of it. That took about 6 weeks with 15-20 minutes devoted to releasing the actual tissue and another 10 minutes to work on the swelling.

With my 2nd TKR last year, my Orthopedic PT worked in tandem with my MFR therapist, and I have not experienced any scar tissue. I agree with you that every patient and every surgery is amazingly different. However, I want to hang my hat out for MFR. Have you ever tried it?

I now appear on time twice a week for my MFR sessions. My SFN (small fiber neuropathy) has become more of an issue in the last 9 years and I now need to be there twice a week and am treated by two MFR therapists to even keep up with this progressive condition. As an example, I have stretch Yoga class on Tuesdays.....so my preparatory MFR is on Monday.

May you have happiness and the causes of happiness.
Chris

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@ezas123

Sorry to hear …. But have you tried mfr I do this aggressively and the swelling comes down ….I go three times a week but I am still like 53 day out my mfr therapist has been in vacation for last 4 weeks so right now I am little swollen have not been able to bring down with ice elevating or meds…. So I understand what you are going through …. My mfr therapist back tomorrow thank goodness …. But I am at 95 flexion I think this is due to my mfr therapist keeping inflammation at bay … I know in time I won’t have to go as much ….I know you might have heard many people talk about it on these pages but it I am proof it truly works … this is the first I am swollen since my revision surgery in July ….. on the Mayo website look up therapist who train with dr barnes in your area you should be able to find a good one…. Good luck let me know how you are doing

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What’s mft?

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@eurekahayley

What’s mft?

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It’s mfr myofascial release it helps swelling and breaks up scar tissue….

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@ezas123

It’s mfr myofascial release it helps swelling and breaks up scar tissue….

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Thank you.

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@ezas123

Sorry to hear …. But have you tried mfr I do this aggressively and the swelling comes down ….I go three times a week but I am still like 53 day out my mfr therapist has been in vacation for last 4 weeks so right now I am little swollen have not been able to bring down with ice elevating or meds…. So I understand what you are going through …. My mfr therapist back tomorrow thank goodness …. But I am at 95 flexion I think this is due to my mfr therapist keeping inflammation at bay … I know in time I won’t have to go as much ….I know you might have heard many people talk about it on these pages but it I am proof it truly works … this is the first I am swollen since my revision surgery in July ….. on the Mayo website look up therapist who train with dr barnes in your area you should be able to find a good one…. Good luck let me know how you are doing

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mfr?

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Have you been doing the stretching exercises for range of motion, like ankle slides, every day 3 to 5 times per day? This is the best way to prevent scar tissue. I'm just surprised it's developed this quickly and if you've been following PT. Has a Dr. confirmed it's scar tissue?

If it is (and I hope it isn't) the best way I know to get rid of it is surgery. There is also my-fasciae release (MFR) that can be done under anesthesia as it is painful. I? hope you get it resolved.

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