Magnesium and heart rhythm problems
Dear all.
I already posted something on magnesium in another group, asking if the tablets i was advised to take could have to do with some problems I am experiencing. But I thought I would post it here too.
I have a heart rhythm condition that sometimes really acts up. I had a TIA years ago, followed by my heart stopping less than a year later. So I am under supervision of a cardiologist.
But since I also have a bowel condition (sigh) my doctor told me to take 2 magnesium tablets a day, making a total of 1500 mg. per day. She said I could take even 6 tablets if I wanted to, because there are no side effects. I just heard that there can be, and I wonder if anyone of you has any experience with magnesium and a heart condition, and how this makes you feel.
I would love to share thoughts on the subject since I am not feeling very well ever since I started taking 1500 mg. of magnesium per day over two weeks ago. I called my doctor but they told me there are no side effects. So well, I thought I needed a few more thinking caps.
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I was told by my cardiologist that i should not take magnesium, why would he say that i wonder when it is supposed to be good for the heart?
Hi Kayla, I have on occasion also been told to take Magnesium but it was based on low levels in my system. So maybe during some lab work it was determined you have good levels?
Have you had any labs prior to the doctor's saying that?
Did you ask the cardiologist? Sometimes there is something in a person's personal health conditions or history that makes the "typical" treatment inadvisable.
Sue
Not replying to anyone in particular but a huge "thank you!" to everyone! Due to the Pfizer double jab, like many around the world, I am now sufferng from "hypersensitivty" to food! Yep, a world-wide study, compiling data from dozens of legit sources, noted this new problem. The CoVid vax with the highest number of food hypersensitivity? Pfizer. So, I'm NOT imagining a connection! Had well controlled mastocytosis. No problems but an occasional hive. Kept under control with 10 mg Claritin and 200 mg Tagamet per day. My only "trigger?" Tobacco smoke.
After the double jab, my strictly cutaneous mastocytosis escalated to MCAS-GI (Mast Cell Activation Syndrome-Gastrointestinal). Up to nine bouts of diarrhea per day. Imagine my loss of magnesium, of all electrolytes. A-fib was the next, connected symptom. The domino effect.
Intelligent observation above. Many forms of magnesium have a laxative effect. I was on a quest. I'm almost back to normal in terms of GI by staying on a diet that is extremely restricted (must avoid all high histamine foods). However, my A-fib (though better) does still result in the occasional blood clot. Using 1/2 of an adult aspirin every night to keep my blood thinned.
I will most definitely try the magnesium taurate mentioned above.
As to magnesium glycinate, it's supposed to have benefits for diabetics. Ergo, I'll be giving that to my husband after we've used up his magnesium citrate powder.
You people are awesome! If I have success with magnesium taurate in both "departments" (intestines and heart rhythm) I promise I'll report back. Oh, a test determined I am deficient in both magnesium and calcium. Also low in sodium, which explains my low blood pressure. B3 and E are vitamins I've got to boost. Slightly deficient in choline, too.
Considering what I've been going through the past 18 months, I am doing well. I'm a maniac about supplementation. Perhaps all those vitamins, minerals, herbs, enzymes, amino acids and more have kept me alive. Even regained 2 whole pounds. As of this morning, I'm up to 117!!!!
Don't. Give. Up!
God bless you, Fran. Just posted my medical "profile" covering the past 18 months. If you bother to read it, you'll understand why I'm SO grateful to you. I've been on a quest for a "safe" magnesium!
I promise I'll post again if I experience success!
Thank you for distinguishing those two magnesiums. I have a magnesium oxide supplement and I'm uncertain what its purpose is so I quit taking it. Can you enlighten me?
@frenchie333 Hi, I am glad you are better and gaining weight. That is great and I have gone from 93 to 105. Boy, putting on pounds is really hard. Now the question is, I take 500 mg Mg at bedtime to help me sleep per my PCP. Also, I am dealing with afib, CHD, and COPD so it can not be all bad. Everyone's situation is different, I guess we need to listen to our care team members to know the direction we should travel. Keep me informed as to your progress and keep the pounds on that is important at least for me. I have more to gain. Stay healthy as best we can. KLH
Awesome progress, kilh! You're dealing with so much. May you be blessed with success!
Fran, where did you get these absolutist rules about magnesium??
Not doubting their truth, just needing a reliable source (just as I've learned to do with political news! I hope we've all learned we need this realitycheck.)
What are your sources for the kinds of magnesium you take?
I rely a great deal on Dr. Google myself, but there are sources and sources!
I try to only rely on ones with doctors involved (even nutritionists are suspect, IMO. For one thing, anyone can claim to be one and for another I'm not a believer in anything that sounds "woo-woo" to me. That even includes online doctors, as some have gone over the line in marketing products - and books - they benefit from.
The internet is completely unpoliced and there's just too much completely contradictory "information" out there - that is, information that SOUNDS authoritative.
(Just try to research the KETO diet, for example!!)
Even taking something based on a dictum from an online someone with mysterious letters after their name, is questionable. Not unless you've tried it for a good while. And also, made some kind of effort to compare different agents that claim to do the same thing.
I say that as someone who takes a bucketful of supplements, and am gradually finding out ones that shouldn't be taken together, and ones that have effects that can be dangerous (if indeed they contain what they claim! See below).
Besides which the great drug, PLACEBO can have the most powerful effect of all!
There was a well researched article in the NY Times a few years ago, for which chemists analyzed ingredients. Finding - that over half contain something other than claimed (including inert substances like sawdust). FYI Only the state of California has rules as to what is allowed to be sold according to tested contents - safety and that it contains what is claimed.
I wish I could get all my supplements with labels showing they've passed test in California! Instead, I'm spending a good deal on supplements that for the most part are not from knowable reliable brands. (I confess I often end up choosing the one with the most professional looking labels! But then I do almost the same thing with wine, on the rare occasion I purchase it - labels and price! I'd use a blush emoticon if they were an option here.)