Prednisone tapering is challenging. What does remission feel like?
Hi all what’s remission feel like? Does it only happen when I’m completely off prednisone or can remission occur while I’m tapering?
I’ve had PMR for a year and three months and I’ve been on prednisone for a year. I have been able to taper down to 4mg per day with some manageable pain and moodiness, but 2 days ago my head cleared and I felt like my happy self again. I’m still a little achy but really thrilled that I’m not cranky/spacey/frustrated.
Can I accelerate the taper? Any advice?
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What you are experiencing is not normal. It saddens me to read the replies and how this disease is being treated by doctors/rheumys. Big picture: according to Mayo Clinic, the average duration of PMR is 5.9 years and the only treatment is prednisone. We try to taper to find the lowest dose where we are mostly comfortable. We shouldn't reduce prednisone if we are experiencing pain. So for example, I found complete relief with my initial dose of 15 mgs. (some people need more). When I dropped to 12.5 I felt some pain, but not enough to increase. I've struggled trying to get below 10 mgs. for several years now and I still take 11-12 mgs. daily. Do I want to take less? Yes, but I don't get to determine my taper. My body does. If you take less prednisone than your body needs to deal with the inflammation, the inflammation continues to build and you'll have a flare. My hope is that you'll find a rheumatologist who will help you figure out what's best for your body and not follow the limited and sometimes errant medical literature.
It's good you have an upcoming appointment with a Rheumatologist. I believe the most accurate way of diagnosing GCA is with a temporal biopsy. My CRP levels were also normal when the biopsy confirmed I had GCA.
I was diagnosed with PMR in early 2020 and ceased Prednisone entirely at the end of January 2021. My advice is be patient and stick with the taper exactly as recommended. Many people here have had PMR much longer than us and it’s a very tricky condition so we can’t afford to get complacent.
I have realised that PMR changes your body and in my case I had cognitive issues but with exercise a good diet and supplements if you need them you can get yourself back in time - but it’s a new normal. Reduce stress wherever you can. Good luck!
Hi @mild835, jaw pain and pain in the temples can be symptoms of Giant Cell Arteritis which about 30% of those with PMR develop. A higher dosage of Prednisone (usually 40 - 50 mg) is needed to control GCA. If your jaw and temple pain continue, you may need a temporal artery biopsy to rule out GCA. Other symptoms can include a tender scalp, difficulty seeing, and a dry cough. I also had an incredibly stiff neck. It's best to be vigilant, as untreated, GCA can result in blindness and stroke. Wishing you the best, Teri
Yep...it's just something we have to go with the flow with. GCA is nothing to fool with and today the ophthalmologist said she see's no vascular problems in my eyes. I agree about the tapering, but 2.5 mg was too much too fast for me. So we start a new regimen next week of 1 mg. down every other week. My diet has done a complete 180 and exercise as often as possible. Thanks for your much appreciated response.
I agree Teri. Jaw pain stopped when I returned to 15 mg. Prednisone, just up a bit from 13.75 mg. Both Neurologist and Ophthalmologist concur - not GCA. Biopsy could not be done as I have been too long on the Prednisone now. Sometimes I feel I am hyper-vigilant but best to err on the side of caution. Much of my pain is a result of tapering a bit too quickly (I believe so anyway.) Thanks again. ~ Deb
Yes thanks @minijohn. Ophthalmologist says too far along with the Prednisone to do a temporal biopsy. The jaw pain did stop when I increased the dose to 15 mg., so just a slight increase. Next step is to see what the Rheumatologist says. Thanks so much. ~ Deb
I was diagnosed with PMR in April and began taking 20MG of Prednisone daily (in morning) for one month, then instructed to reduce by 2.5mg each week. I am trying to reduce my daily dose, yet unable to get below 15mg without discomfort in the back of my legs, buttocks e.g. sitting is uncomfortable. Prednisone makes me anxious and jittery and somewhat difficultly with sleeping. My doctor has suggested splitting my dose to twice daily i.e. morning 7.5mg and late afternoon 7.5mg for one week, then each week reduce by 2.5mg daily. I am hesitant to proceed as I feel taking prednisone late in the day will affect my ability to sleep as well as I have concerns with managing potential stomach issues using prednisone and the need to take food with dosage (difficult to do when other commitments during the day prohibit interruptions). I also take Pantoprazole in morning to help with stomach issues. I would like to get my dosage lower and more manageable, but wondering if others have had good or bad experiences with splitting daily doses; as well as p.o.v. on best way accomplish a reduction plan that works. Thank you!
Hi Mike,
Tapering off prednisone is challenging. You are certainly not alone. In fact, I moved your post to this existing discussion:
- Prednisone tapering is challenging. What does remission feel like? https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/prednisone-tapering-and-remission/
I did this so you can connect with others, like @milld835 @tsc @anniekirby @minijohn @kmeikle1 and more, and read their experiences, including experiences with splitting dose over the course of the day.
You may also be interested in these related discussions:
- Prednisone tapering is hard: Do complementary therapies help?: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/prednisone-tapering/
- Tapering off of Prednisone: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/prednisone/
You're asking a good question about taking a split dose late in the day and your concern about it affecting your sleep. How early in the morning do you take your medication?
Thank you.....I typically take my prednisone around 8:30am.