Prolia treatment for osteoporosis: What is your experience?

Posted by Veruska @veriska, Mar 7, 2017

I received the results from my bone test and they have recommended I start Prolia. I have read the side effects and I am concerned. Has anyone use this drug and if so what side effects have you experienced. Thank you

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I am using Prolia for a year now. I don't like my hair falling out and the pain in my muscles and joints. I also need a tooth pulled and the oral surgeon won't touch the tooth for another month. That will be 6 months since my last injection.

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@ams

I am using Prolia for a year now. I don't like my hair falling out and the pain in my muscles and joints. I also need a tooth pulled and the oral surgeon won't touch the tooth for another month. That will be 6 months since my last injection.

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I also am using prolia for a year now and I don't like the pain in my muscles and joints. However all of the replacement medications have similar side effects, so I don't know what to do next.

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I started with my first Prolia injection in 2018 and just had my 8th injection last week. I am 67. I have improvement in both hip and spine (more in the spine). In my past comments I have said that I thought the Prolia made my irritable bowel and my arthritis worse but I don't know if the arthritis would have become worse anyway. And maybe or maybe not for the IBS-C. In any event, still on it. No fractures so far and wish to keep it that way.
Just know that once you start Prolia you cannot stop without
going to another drug ("relay" drug). Stopping Prolia cold turkey may lead to compression fractured. Recent research says you can stay on Prolia for 10 years. Very easy getting the injection every six months.

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@windyshores

I have been told by my MGH doctor that it is first necessary to "lock in" the gains from Tymlos with Reclast, but he said for me he would do 1/4 dose. After the first dose or maybe second, he said I could go off and they will monitor me. McCormick, who wrote the book on Whole Body approaches, did exactly that. DEXAs can be used but also blood tests to measure turnover/rate of bone loss can monitor things. I am avoiding Prolia because I don't think breaks are possible without another med.

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First, thank you for the input on PRP a few days back. Very informative. May I ask if you see an endocrinologist or rheumatologist? And also would be interested to understand what bone markers specifically they run from the blood tests. The rheumatologist I had seen indicated if I start evenity he would only do a dexa after a year and no other testing. It sound reasonable to me that a dexa at six months, which I have seen mentioned, and also bone marker tests would be appropriate at least at 6 months to avoid taking a med that is doing nothing. Again, thanks for sharing your knowledge. I have scheduled to also see an endocrinologist given my concerns and previous health history.

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@sus34

First, thank you for the input on PRP a few days back. Very informative. May I ask if you see an endocrinologist or rheumatologist? And also would be interested to understand what bone markers specifically they run from the blood tests. The rheumatologist I had seen indicated if I start evenity he would only do a dexa after a year and no other testing. It sound reasonable to me that a dexa at six months, which I have seen mentioned, and also bone marker tests would be appropriate at least at 6 months to avoid taking a med that is doing nothing. Again, thanks for sharing your knowledge. I have scheduled to also see an endocrinologist given my concerns and previous health history.

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I see an endocrinologist at Mass. General in Boston. Before starting Tymlos, he did a DEXA baseline (I have had many of course), 25-OH vitamin D, albumin, phosphorus, basic metabolic panel, uric acid. and creatinine/eGFR (kidneys). Six months later he ordered calcium, albumin and GFR, a test which I delayed and am having next week. Tymlos and Forteo can raise calcium due to parathyroid action so that is the most important for those meds in terms of safety.

I saw Dr. Keith McCormick, a chiropractor who wrote "The Whole Body Approach to Osteoporosis" and who used meds himself at one point, for a short time anyway. He recommended the Collagen CTx (resorption), PTH (parathyroid), calcium and P1NP (procollagen 1 NT polypeptide, bone formation). Mine were all normal but my osteoporosis was worse then previous DEXA and severe enough to cause 3 spontaneous fractures.

Dr. McCormick wanted a baseline in order to measure progress. My endocrinologist says these tests are not useful. Since mine were all normal, I did not pursue them since they did not seem to reflect reality. However, it may be that they could measure progress.

Dr. McCormick writes in his book that only one test of three is needed. The other one he mentions is DPD (deoxypryidinoline). It seems the other two are more common.

My doc is repeating DEXA after one year on Tymlos. There may be insurance restrictions because most people can only get a DEXA every two years. Those of us in treatment can get one annually, at least with my insurance.

I saw another highly regarded endocrinologist about 15 years ago and she did all those blood tests. I do trust my current endo but might have pushed for the CTx or P1NP if mine had been abnormal. I have stopped fracturing and feel assured that at the very least, my bone quality is improving on Tymlos and certainly hope density is too.

Once done with Tymlos, if things aren't improved enough, I want to do Evenity. If Tymlos is effective enough, I would do one infusion of Reclast to lock the gains in and THAT is when I will be monitored, and I believe for the rest of my life my endo will monitor bone loss with those blood tests (CTx and/pr P1NP) and DEXA and put me on and off meds.

The first 6 months of Tymlos have the most improvement and after a year, the growth levels off some. So I might also do one year and "save" Tymlos for later as one tool in the toolbox.

Evenity "turbocharges" (I liked that word, read it somewhere) bone growth. I took a long time deciding between Tymlos and Evenity and went with Tymlos as a first step: it has been around longer. Evenity BOTH grows bone and suppresses turnover so that was a concern too because the suppression of turnover , though less than Prolia and biphosphonates, might cause some of the same problems- too early to tell. I read that Evenity is most effective with people who haven't taken any other meds. If Tymlos works for me maybe there will be less for Evenity to do and I can save it for later too.

Just want to add that I have had osteoporosis for 14 years. I took aromatase inhibitors for breast cancer which worsened things. My doc tried Forteo for me, and my heart went crazy. Doc did not want to do Prolia, I had severe GERD with Fosamax, and doc was concerned about afib with Reclast. I did tai chi and tried to be careful. With three lumbar fractures last spring, I regret I didn't try Tymlos earlier but I never would have had this level of commitment. I came on here to try to help folks avoid what I went through with the fractures! The key for me has been that Tymlos' pen has "clicks" which enabled me to start low and ramp up carefully. Good luck!

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@windyshores

I see an endocrinologist at Mass. General in Boston. Before starting Tymlos, he did a DEXA baseline (I have had many of course), 25-OH vitamin D, albumin, phosphorus, basic metabolic panel, uric acid. and creatinine/eGFR (kidneys). Six months later he ordered calcium, albumin and GFR, a test which I delayed and am having next week. Tymlos and Forteo can raise calcium due to parathyroid action so that is the most important for those meds in terms of safety.

I saw Dr. Keith McCormick, a chiropractor who wrote "The Whole Body Approach to Osteoporosis" and who used meds himself at one point, for a short time anyway. He recommended the Collagen CTx (resorption), PTH (parathyroid), calcium and P1NP (procollagen 1 NT polypeptide, bone formation). Mine were all normal but my osteoporosis was worse then previous DEXA and severe enough to cause 3 spontaneous fractures.

Dr. McCormick wanted a baseline in order to measure progress. My endocrinologist says these tests are not useful. Since mine were all normal, I did not pursue them since they did not seem to reflect reality. However, it may be that they could measure progress.

Dr. McCormick writes in his book that only one test of three is needed. The other one he mentions is DPD (deoxypryidinoline). It seems the other two are more common.

My doc is repeating DEXA after one year on Tymlos. There may be insurance restrictions because most people can only get a DEXA every two years. Those of us in treatment can get one annually, at least with my insurance.

I saw another highly regarded endocrinologist about 15 years ago and she did all those blood tests. I do trust my current endo but might have pushed for the CTx or P1NP if mine had been abnormal. I have stopped fracturing and feel assured that at the very least, my bone quality is improving on Tymlos and certainly hope density is too.

Once done with Tymlos, if things aren't improved enough, I want to do Evenity. If Tymlos is effective enough, I would do one infusion of Reclast to lock the gains in and THAT is when I will be monitored, and I believe for the rest of my life my endo will monitor bone loss with those blood tests (CTx and/pr P1NP) and DEXA and put me on and off meds.

The first 6 months of Tymlos have the most improvement and after a year, the growth levels off some. So I might also do one year and "save" Tymlos for later as one tool in the toolbox.

Evenity "turbocharges" (I liked that word, read it somewhere) bone growth. I took a long time deciding between Tymlos and Evenity and went with Tymlos as a first step: it has been around longer. Evenity BOTH grows bone and suppresses turnover so that was a concern too because the suppression of turnover , though less than Prolia and biphosphonates, might cause some of the same problems- too early to tell. I read that Evenity is most effective with people who haven't taken any other meds. If Tymlos works for me maybe there will be less for Evenity to do and I can save it for later too.

Just want to add that I have had osteoporosis for 14 years. I took aromatase inhibitors for breast cancer which worsened things. My doc tried Forteo for me, and my heart went crazy. Doc did not want to do Prolia, I had severe GERD with Fosamax, and doc was concerned about afib with Reclast. I did tai chi and tried to be careful. With three lumbar fractures last spring, I regret I didn't try Tymlos earlier but I never would have had this level of commitment. I came on here to try to help folks avoid what I went through with the fractures! The key for me has been that Tymlos' pen has "clicks" which enabled me to start low and ramp up carefully. Good luck!

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Thank you for the detailed response. Very helpful. You have been at this a long time and appreciate you sharing your knowledge. I sincerely hope you get the results that you are hoping for!!

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I'd tell u Don't do it. I took only 2 shots of Prolia. After the 1st I ended in the ER for a rash and unbelievable itching, which over 2 years later the itching without the rash is still here. Right after the 2nd shot. While leave the clinic my right hip started to hurt, and continued till the pain we so bad I finally went to the doctor. After xrays, it was determined I had hip necrosis. I needed a total hip replacement. Then my both shoulders started hurting, and range of motion was gone. More xrays, severe arthritis with rotator cuff damage. Both shoulders need full replacement. Both my knees are having the same issue. Both need replacing. I was a very active person before Prolia
3 or 4 days of exercise using a Bowflex Max Trainer, and swimming on warm days. I can't believe what my life has turned into. So that's been my horror story about Prolia.

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@sue225

I started with my first Prolia injection in 2018 and just had my 8th injection last week. I am 67. I have improvement in both hip and spine (more in the spine). In my past comments I have said that I thought the Prolia made my irritable bowel and my arthritis worse but I don't know if the arthritis would have become worse anyway. And maybe or maybe not for the IBS-C. In any event, still on it. No fractures so far and wish to keep it that way.
Just know that once you start Prolia you cannot stop without
going to another drug ("relay" drug). Stopping Prolia cold turkey may lead to compression fractured. Recent research says you can stay on Prolia for 10 years. Very easy getting the injection every six months.

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@migizii thank you for your input to your experience with Prolia. Mine is not perfect, but acceptable to improve my osteoporosis to osteopenia and I have had no further fractures. Each journey is unique, but I am glad to hear someone else is also to,rearing this medication.

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@ellye

I'd tell u Don't do it. I took only 2 shots of Prolia. After the 1st I ended in the ER for a rash and unbelievable itching, which over 2 years later the itching without the rash is still here. Right after the 2nd shot. While leave the clinic my right hip started to hurt, and continued till the pain we so bad I finally went to the doctor. After xrays, it was determined I had hip necrosis. I needed a total hip replacement. Then my both shoulders started hurting, and range of motion was gone. More xrays, severe arthritis with rotator cuff damage. Both shoulders need full replacement. Both my knees are having the same issue. Both need replacing. I was a very active person before Prolia
3 or 4 days of exercise using a Bowflex Max Trainer, and swimming on warm days. I can't believe what my life has turned into. So that's been my horror story about Prolia.

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So what are you on now? Sounds like you had a very adverse (and prolonged) reaction to Prolia. Sounds more like a nightmare. Many take it with zero (at least obvious) side effects. So sorry you were not among them.

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@rubyz

So what are you on now? Sounds like you had a very adverse (and prolonged) reaction to Prolia. Sounds more like a nightmare. Many take it with zero (at least obvious) side effects. So sorry you were not among them.

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Thank you. I'm taking Alendronate, which is what I was on before Prolia. No problems, thankfully.

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