...thank yu for suggestion. unfortunately our optometrists(Ontario) are working to rule as upset government not increased what they pay optoms. for eye exams, so doubt if he/they will spend time doing something not paid for... i see both sides of the issue, with clients in the middle, as usual. J. p.s. 4 hour drive each way to see top man i saw before but with F.I. and other issues cant travel that far, stay over etc. too bad for me. Yes right now can only take Tylenol, doesn't cut it. J.