(MAC/MAI) Mycobacterium Avium Complex Pulmonary Disease: Join us

Posted by Katherine, Alumni Mentor @katemn, Nov 21, 2011

I am new to Mayo online .. I was hoping to find others with .. MYCOBACTERIUM AVIUM COMPLEX PULMONARY DISEASE (MAC/MAI) and/or BRONCHIECTASIS. I found only 1 thread on mycobacterium accidently under the catagory "Lungs". I'm hoping by starting a subject matter directly related to MYCOBACTERIUM AVIUM COMPLEX PULMONARY DISEASE (MAC/MAI) I may find others out there!

I was diagnosed by a sputum culture August 2007 (but the culture result was accidentally misfiled until 2008!) with MYCOBACTERIUM AVIUM COMPLEX PULMONARY DISEASE (MAC/MAI) and BRONCHIECTASIS. I am now on 5 antibiotics. Working with Dr. Timothy Aksamit at Rochester Mayo Clinic .. he is a saint to have put up with me this long! I was terrified of the treatment . started the first antibiotic September 3, 2011 ... am now on all 5 antibiotics for 18 mos to 2 years. Am delighted at the very bearable side effects!

I wrote on the 1 thread I found: If you google NON-TUBERCULOUS MYCOBACTERIUM AVIUM COMPLEX PULMONARY DISEASE (MAC/MAI) you will learn a LOT about the disease. But PLEASE do NOT get scared about all the things you read .. that is what I did and nearly refused to do the treatment until after a 2nd Micomacterium was discovered! Educate yourself for "due diligence" .. but take it all with a grain of salt .. you are NOT necessarily going to have all the terrible side effects of the antibiotics! Good luck to you!

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January 2017 Update

One of our great Connect Members .. @Paula_MAC2007  .. had a wonderfully helpful idea that I wanted to share! Her idea .. as you read through the pages to gather information on our shared disease of MAC you can develop a personal "file cabinet" for future reference without the necessity of reading all the pages again!

If you have the "MS Word" program on your computer:
- Document Title Example:  Mayo Clinic Connect MAI/MAC Information
- Then develop different categories that make sense to you such as:  Heath Aids .. Videos .. Healthy Living .. Positive Thinking .. Baseline Testing and Regular Testing .. Antibiotics ..
Tips for
- As you read the pages .. copy/paste/save things of interest into that MS Word document under your preferred categories for future reference.

Then as you want to refer back to something in the future .. YEAH!  You have now created your own personal "file cabinet" on MAC/MAI!  Go to it!

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the MAC & Bronchiectasis Support Group.

@unicorn

My name is Christa, I have a child's glee about life, so I am a Unicorn. I have a nice life on the beach so it is not depression, I am not depressed. It is just FEAR, plain and simple fear. you guys know how terrifying it is when the blood gurgles up. (just happened this morn) This is why I mentioned the death pill. i don't want to go by way of pulmonary embolism or choking, jeez, can't we just die in our sleep??? I have gotten some great info on this site just now!! Thank you so much!! i feel like I have best doc in the world, Massachusettes General, Dr. O'Donnell, they study this disease and get tests from Jewish.
I mean, I am paying a fortune flying to Boston. I will ask about the colistin and tobramycin and about alternating monthly antibiotics. This is different, this is good. Keep it coming. I am less afraid when talking to someone. xoxoxo

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I'm not sure about the conclusion that only those who are immunosuppressed get MAC. I think anyone with weakened lung and/or brochi can get MAC. I'm not immunosuppressed. But I have brochiectasis. Although I've only been diagnosed with it 2.5 years ago, I believe I've actually had it for many years prior to that but was mis-diagnosed as allergies. I was also believed to have been exposed to TB in childhood (my skin test for TB is positive) although never developed TB. But that exposure left scarring on my lungs. These are all things that make me more susceptible to MAC than other people without those problems.

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@unicorn

My name is Christa, I have a child's glee about life, so I am a Unicorn. I have a nice life on the beach so it is not depression, I am not depressed. It is just FEAR, plain and simple fear. you guys know how terrifying it is when the blood gurgles up. (just happened this morn) This is why I mentioned the death pill. i don't want to go by way of pulmonary embolism or choking, jeez, can't we just die in our sleep??? I have gotten some great info on this site just now!! Thank you so much!! i feel like I have best doc in the world, Massachusettes General, Dr. O'Donnell, they study this disease and get tests from Jewish.
I mean, I am paying a fortune flying to Boston. I will ask about the colistin and tobramycin and about alternating monthly antibiotics. This is different, this is good. Keep it coming. I am less afraid when talking to someone. xoxoxo

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I think the word "susceptible" is the most accurate term for most of us. Immunosuppressed applies to other conditions where people get MAC. (e. g. Aids)

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@unicorn

My name is Christa, I have a child's glee about life, so I am a Unicorn. I have a nice life on the beach so it is not depression, I am not depressed. It is just FEAR, plain and simple fear. you guys know how terrifying it is when the blood gurgles up. (just happened this morn) This is why I mentioned the death pill. i don't want to go by way of pulmonary embolism or choking, jeez, can't we just die in our sleep??? I have gotten some great info on this site just now!! Thank you so much!! i feel like I have best doc in the world, Massachusettes General, Dr. O'Donnell, they study this disease and get tests from Jewish.
I mean, I am paying a fortune flying to Boston. I will ask about the colistin and tobramycin and about alternating monthly antibiotics. This is different, this is good. Keep it coming. I am less afraid when talking to someone. xoxoxo

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This is a great place to reiterate facts I've provided before on the issue of immuno-compromised vs. non in the contraction of NTM's - although it was most prevalent in HIV/AIDS patients with compromised immune systems, NTM's are now found in persons with healthy immune systems. This means that it has grown stronger over the years, and no longer needs a downed immune system to gain a foothold. For me, this is why we need a registry, just as the one currently in effect for NTM's cousin TB; docs & researchers must get a more accurate handle on how quickly this is spreading, and more of the general population.

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@unicorn

My name is Christa, I have a child's glee about life, so I am a Unicorn. I have a nice life on the beach so it is not depression, I am not depressed. It is just FEAR, plain and simple fear. you guys know how terrifying it is when the blood gurgles up. (just happened this morn) This is why I mentioned the death pill. i don't want to go by way of pulmonary embolism or choking, jeez, can't we just die in our sleep??? I have gotten some great info on this site just now!! Thank you so much!! i feel like I have best doc in the world, Massachusettes General, Dr. O'Donnell, they study this disease and get tests from Jewish.
I mean, I am paying a fortune flying to Boston. I will ask about the colistin and tobramycin and about alternating monthly antibiotics. This is different, this is good. Keep it coming. I am less afraid when talking to someone. xoxoxo

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@boomerexpert You are right. When I was first diagnosed with MAC, I did a lot of google search to find out about it. Most of the search results pointed to HIV/AID patients as the victims of MAC. So obviously the medical community is probably still holding that belief and consider people like us, who do not have AIDS or are not HIV positive but have MAC as some kind of exception..

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@katemn

@imeehaigt .. imee, you are SO lucky!! Philippines is listed on the company website as : country safe to purchase from. Lucky you .. it really does help! I prefer the 75mg time release .. can you get that form there? Curious .. what is the cost? Hugs! Katherine

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@katemn and to all: ambroxol mucosolvan can be purchased online from the Philipines: http://www.muramed.com/store/detail/ambroxol-hcl-mucosolvan-tablet

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@unicorn

My name is Christa, I have a child's glee about life, so I am a Unicorn. I have a nice life on the beach so it is not depression, I am not depressed. It is just FEAR, plain and simple fear. you guys know how terrifying it is when the blood gurgles up. (just happened this morn) This is why I mentioned the death pill. i don't want to go by way of pulmonary embolism or choking, jeez, can't we just die in our sleep??? I have gotten some great info on this site just now!! Thank you so much!! i feel like I have best doc in the world, Massachusettes General, Dr. O'Donnell, they study this disease and get tests from Jewish.
I mean, I am paying a fortune flying to Boston. I will ask about the colistin and tobramycin and about alternating monthly antibiotics. This is different, this is good. Keep it coming. I am less afraid when talking to someone. xoxoxo

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@ling123 - there's a bit more to it. It was found in HIV/AIDS patients first in the 90's - then it was found in others with compromised immune systems like those with RA/Lupus/Crohns or who have been on immunosuppressing chemo treatments - now it's infecting people with no history of being immunocompromised. It's spread and voracity are growing, with no concomitant surge in research.

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@katemn

@imeehaigt .. imee, you are SO lucky!! Philippines is listed on the company website as : country safe to purchase from. Lucky you .. it really does help! I prefer the 75mg time release .. can you get that form there? Curious .. what is the cost? Hugs! Katherine

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I checked it online and its $0.88 per tab.

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@imeehaigt

Just last Sunday I did exercised at home and did my daily deep breathing excercise. As Ive said before its been over a month that I stopped producing sticky phlegm since I started to excercise everyday. When I cleared my lungs and tried to expel sputum I noticed a blood in my sputum I got alarmed again and was thinking of taking anti biotics. I am pretty sure that I dont have lung infection since I can always feel if there is an infection I usally smell something different or have difficulty breathing. There is a possibility that this only happened because I forced to cough. So decided to stay calm and observe it I did not take antibiotics, instead I continued to take 1 gloves or garlic and drink fresh aloe vera. This is an experiment lol I dont want to use antibiotics if it is not necessary. So far im still feeling good and no blood now in my sputum. I will let you know if what will happen next. I know this is kinda risky but my body and mind is telling that I dont need those meds this time. Happy 4th to everyone!

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hi Katemn.....during my visit to have my situation evaluated at NJH in January.....and when they concluded my issue was GERD....not an NTM/ MAC infection they gave me new fluid guidelines......whereas for 30 years as part of my Asthma protocol, I always drank water to flood myself and my thick mucus with.....BUT since the test at NJH showed l did not have asthma, but that my GERD was causing mischief in my lungs, I now have to carefully limit fluid intake....especially before bedtime with aspiration of gastric contents into my lungs more likely. And interestingly my mucus continues with the same consistency .Tdrell

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@katemn

@imeehaigt .. imee, you are SO lucky!! Philippines is listed on the company website as : country safe to purchase from. Lucky you .. it really does help! I prefer the 75mg time release .. can you get that form there? Curious .. what is the cost? Hugs! Katherine

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@virtuous69

Sorry folks, I'm referring to the MAC, not TB unless they are related?

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windwalker....before mid/later 40's options for folks with TB were so limited. Rest and fresh air and proper nutrition and not getting other diseases were about all a person with TB could do......if people could not "get to the mountains" for all of the above....into the Sanatoriums.....I recall driving by one in Chicago in the 50;s....a huge place.....by then no longer in use thanks to the antibiotics that came out mid to late 40's . My mother ...an RN...would tell us that as student nurses in the 30's, they would be assigned to care for TB clients there....and all the masking and isolation gowns they would have to don. Where was your grandmother in the Sanatorium???
someday if you have nothing else to do....look up on NJH site their "history" ..thought it was interesting. Tdrell

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