Tapering off of Prednisone

Posted by e @epvb, Mar 27, 2017

I am currently on 20 mg prednisone after tapering down from 40 mg which I was on for 2 weeks. I have been directed to taper down again next week to 10 mg. I am experiencing terrible headaches lasting days at a time as well as neck pain and insomnia. Has anyone found any relief or remedies for headache/neck pain? Thank you.

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@rexbeer

Hi. Ive just joined this forum. Im 74, man, live in New Zealand. I experience pain from arthritis in a hip and lower back. The pain is ever-present, and been gradually getting worse over about 35 years. My doctor prescribed Prednisone at 2.5mg/day for an allergy (hay fever). I am amazed that it has also reduced the chronic pain, by about 50% - as well as making me feel much more energetic. There are no adverse effects apparent.
So, of course I am thinking how it would improve my life if I could feel like that all the time. This discussion group has been mainly about withdrawing from Prednisone, which is interesting to me. But I would love to hear from anyone who knows about using Prednisone long term, indefinitely, at the very low dose of 2.5mg. Thanks. Rex.

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I am certainly not an expert although I've been down to 7 with a relapse a couple of times, and as high as 60 once. My doctor is trying to get me down to 2 or 3 mg, but I just don't make it down that far. He said that I'll likely always have to be on a low dose. He's concerned about long term use because of bone weakness. I have lost a bit of bone, so I'm on calcium, Vit. D, and I'm doing more weight bearing exercises. You seem to be tolerating it well so that's great for you. There is a medication that I could take, but I don't want any more meds. Pred is a miracle drug, and we do feel much better on it. No doubt. The good part for me is that I had very good bone strength for a woman my age (84), so the small amount of bone loss wasn't huge. I would assume that you are doing remarkably well with 2.5 mg. Good for you.

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@2heal

I don't really understand the dangers of not using prednisone or not enough prednisone vs just NOT using it? I've read that Giant Cell Arteritis has a risk of blindness if prednisone isn't started promptly, and I've read that there is a chance that other blood vessels, the aorta and its branches, can become inflamed. But what about PMR? Is there a risk of blood vessel damage with PMR if you don't use artificial means to reduce the inflamation? My Dr told me to stop my reductions, and to increase my dosage of prednisone slightly when labs showed my ESR (sedimentation rate) climbed back up to 42, after it had dropped to 22 after 4 weeks on prednisone . I wasn't struggling with pain from the reduced dosage so it was the lab test that was the deciding factor I guess? Does anyone else have labs taken to determine when to cut back?

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I have labs about every 3 months. I guess that is the best way for them to determine what the inflammation level is, and it's a useful tool. They do the ESL and the CRP and it's important info for the docs to review what's going on and I also have to have labs for the Actemra that I take. I'm not a fatalist, but I am (84) and still pretty active. I sew and craft, and do some small amount of gardening with my husband, so I don't worry too much about what is going to happen to me. I have a great life. I try to see the good around me, and let the rest go. Except when I overthink this stuff.

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@lizzier

Your taper seems to be going well. That's about normal. When I get to 7 I start to crash, so I'm back up to 8 mg again. It's tedious, and I'm really tired of it. I'd give anything to get off of the red, but I just can't seem to get there. I also do an injection on Friday of Actemra, and that was supposed to help, but so far it isn't happening. This has been a five year journey. It's great that you are having success with the taper. I'm really glad d for you.

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Thank you for answering my post. My rheumatologist predicted that I would probably do well with cutting back until I reach the 5mg. level. He said a lot of people begin to experience a recurrence at that point, so I am hoping I can get past that mark without a flare. During the tapering process, I have tried to concentrate on foods and a few supplements known to have anti-inflammatory properties. I am taking four fish oil capsules daily plus 400 mgs. of turmeric extract. I also try to eat some strawberries and blueberries daily. I'm not sure whether these remedies have helped or not, but since I am feeling better, I plan to keep on using them. I am 75 and this is my second bout of PMR. The first occurred thirteen years ago and resolved completely inside of six months. I hope you can eventually get completely off the drugs and be free of pain. Please keep us updated on how you are doing.

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I appreciate your post. Thank you. I do about the same thing. The anti-inflammatory foods, and s few supplements. I think healthy eating is always good. I work with a dietician, and have foods that have anti-inflammatory properties. If you got through it once I think you will do well. sounds like you are on the right track. I also took a Course on Living With Chronic Pain, and that seemed to be really beneficial. I think I'm doing better since I took the course.

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@scpartain

Welcome to the group! I too am tapering after a severe bout of PMR that started in January after I received the Pfizer vaccine for Covid-19. I have been following my doctor's schedule of reducing the drug by 2.5 mgs. every two weeks and am down to 10 mgs currently. Next week I will go down to 7.5 mgs. So far, I have continued to improve even though I am cutting back. The doctor advised me that it would take at least three months for me to get completely off of the prednisone. I hope you are able to find some solutions for controlling your pain while you taper.

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Interesting ... my PMR began just before vaccinations ... still seems that super round of stress brought on my PMR ... recent retirement, quit heating the home with a wood stove, new HVAC heat pump system, Washington D C political system in turmoil, covid lockdown with nothing to do, nowhere to go. Too many hours on the couch watching news, no physical activity.

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@cgent

Interesting ... my PMR began just before vaccinations ... still seems that super round of stress brought on my PMR ... recent retirement, quit heating the home with a wood stove, new HVAC heat pump system, Washington D C political system in turmoil, covid lockdown with nothing to do, nowhere to go. Too many hours on the couch watching news, no physical activity.

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Cgent, I wonder if you'd like to join the virtual walking group. It's a great group of people here on Mayo Clinic Connect that started during the COVID lockdown to help keep people connect and motivated to keep moving, no matter how much or how little. Check it out. All welcome.

- Let’s Go Walking! Join me for a virtual walking support group https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/lets-go-walking-join-me-for-a-virtual-walking-support-group/

Yoga counts too. 🙂

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Hi, I am new to this group and looking for some information regarding PMR and tapering off of Prednisone. I have been on it since 12/25/20, started at 20 tapered down and went from 10-7.5 and symptoms came back. Put back on 10 for 2 weeks and then 9 for a month and I currently just started 8 and noticed the symptoms starting to come back. I don’t want to do Methatrexate. Opinions?

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@dawn0723

Hi, I am new to this group and looking for some information regarding PMR and tapering off of Prednisone. I have been on it since 12/25/20, started at 20 tapered down and went from 10-7.5 and symptoms came back. Put back on 10 for 2 weeks and then 9 for a month and I currently just started 8 and noticed the symptoms starting to come back. I don’t want to do Methatrexate. Opinions?

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Hello @dawn0723, Welcome to Connect. You will notice that we have merged your discussion into an existing discussion - Tapering off of Prednisone so that you can meet other members with PMR like @lizzier, @kmeikle1, @maddman and others who have experience with tapering off of prednisone.

I've had 2 occurrences of PMR and started both at 20 mg dosage. The first one took me 3 and half years to taper off and the second time took me 1 and half years. I learned to keep a daily pain/aches log along with the amount of prednisone I was taking so that I could refer back when needed. Originally I started tapering down every week but later changed to every two weeks at small doses. The first time when it took 3+ years to taper off, I went back and forth between 1 mg and 1/2 mg the last 6 months until I was finally able to taper off with only minor aches when I got up in the morning. The second time around with PMR I made some lifestyle changes which I think made it easier to taper off. I exercised more and ate a little healthier focusing on low inflammatory foods.

This might help some - What to eat if you have polymyalgia rheumatica: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/321683

Have you discussed any tapering schedules or tips with your rheumatologist?

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@johnbishop

Hello @dawn0723, Welcome to Connect. You will notice that we have merged your discussion into an existing discussion - Tapering off of Prednisone so that you can meet other members with PMR like @lizzier, @kmeikle1, @maddman and others who have experience with tapering off of prednisone.

I've had 2 occurrences of PMR and started both at 20 mg dosage. The first one took me 3 and half years to taper off and the second time took me 1 and half years. I learned to keep a daily pain/aches log along with the amount of prednisone I was taking so that I could refer back when needed. Originally I started tapering down every week but later changed to every two weeks at small doses. The first time when it took 3+ years to taper off, I went back and forth between 1 mg and 1/2 mg the last 6 months until I was finally able to taper off with only minor aches when I got up in the morning. The second time around with PMR I made some lifestyle changes which I think made it easier to taper off. I exercised more and ate a little healthier focusing on low inflammatory foods.

This might help some - What to eat if you have polymyalgia rheumatica: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/321683

Have you discussed any tapering schedules or tips with your rheumatologist?

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Hi John. Yes, she is monitoring my taper and that is why she took me back
up to 10 for the two weeks and then down by 1 each month after that. I am
starting to feel the aches and pains in the morning again, although minor
at the moment, so I guess that we will have to see what happens. Thanks so
much for reaching out. It really helps.

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@dawn0723

Hi, I am new to this group and looking for some information regarding PMR and tapering off of Prednisone. I have been on it since 12/25/20, started at 20 tapered down and went from 10-7.5 and symptoms came back. Put back on 10 for 2 weeks and then 9 for a month and I currently just started 8 and noticed the symptoms starting to come back. I don’t want to do Methatrexate. Opinions?

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I just started Methatrexate last week. Today was my second time taking it. I have not had any side affects at all. The reason I decided to take it, 10 MG once a week, is because I could only get down to 8 MG of prednisone for a few days before a major flare up. The steroids are far worst than the methatrexate according to all the research I have done. It is scary when you read all the "possible" side affects for sure...they have to include them with any drug and most all have scary side affects. I will you well, and I will let you know how I make out on this plan. I should say that I have been on steroids for almost a year.

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