Livedoid vasculopathy

Posted by angelasmom @angelasmom, Aug 3, 2011

Looking for people with the rare blood clot and leg and foot ulcer disease of Livedoid Vasculopathy. Mayo seems to be experienced at treating this disease so I thought I would find you here, I have it.

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@patientrea

Which medications did you try and what were the adverse reactions;

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Pentofloxin and aspirin. Pentofloxin made my shake horribly feeling like my heart was about to pound through my chest and aspirin caused thrush in my throat. Adalat, made me incredibly dizzy, felt like my brain was on a wash cycle spin. Laid me out on my bathroom floor with no control of even sitting.
Kenolog injections, caused my ulcers to cave in more. Methotrexate and folic acid, mouth sores , amplified anxiety and panic attacks. Gas pain and gerd with pain in chest. Nausea , forceful urination.

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@erina306

Pentofloxin and aspirin. Pentofloxin made my shake horribly feeling like my heart was about to pound through my chest and aspirin caused thrush in my throat. Adalat, made me incredibly dizzy, felt like my brain was on a wash cycle spin. Laid me out on my bathroom floor with no control of even sitting.
Kenolog injections, caused my ulcers to cave in more. Methotrexate and folic acid, mouth sores , amplified anxiety and panic attacks. Gas pain and gerd with pain in chest. Nausea , forceful urination.

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what horrible lessons to experience. As if the LV wasn't enough !!!

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Hey everyone. I've been suffering from livedoid vasculopathy for almost a decade now. Got my first attack/diagnosed when I was 13, and it's been on going ever since. At first it started out with painful ulcers lasting about 4-5 weeks, but as the years went on, the attacks became more frequent and more severe. Eventually, in 2019 I had the worst attack yet, pretty much needing crutches to walk for about 6 months, with blinding pain at times. After this attack was over, and I exhausted dozens of different 'experts' and doctors, I've tried to go a more natural path. I went to India for about 3 weeks, to a small center specializing in ayurvedic treatments. I didn't think anything of it, because how could it work if medical experts couldn't do anything about it? When I went, they knew how to treat it almost immediately. They made me get a uric acid test, something no doctor has ever ask before. when seeing my levels were over double than the normal amount, they recommended a diet tailored around getting that level to reduce. I've been on it for about 1.5 years now, and have not even felt a tingle of an attack on my feet so far. I get a uric acid test every 6-8 weeks to make sure my levels are consistent. I used to eat a ton of meat, which is the biggest reason my levels have been so high. I ate chicken pretty much daily. Now i've reduced it to about once a week and I thought i'd share my story with you guys. I know that this is not a proven method. I know that this will not work for everyone. But it worked for me. And knowing just how much pain this condition can bring physically, mentally and emotionally, I want to let you all know. If this can help even one person, I think it's worth it. I used to be on all the same medication that has been mentioned before as well, pentoxifylline, aspirin etc... but even that has reduce to 0. Please let me know if I can help in any other way

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@erina306

No worries at all. Yes, they tried a few but I’d end up with adverse reactions. I’m so sensitive to meds that we are running out of options.

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Hey, I just posted a reply, check it out. I was in a similar situation, running out of options. decided to go to eastern medicine and it worked for me. maybe something similar can work for you too.

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@victorarrow

Hey everyone. I've been suffering from livedoid vasculopathy for almost a decade now. Got my first attack/diagnosed when I was 13, and it's been on going ever since. At first it started out with painful ulcers lasting about 4-5 weeks, but as the years went on, the attacks became more frequent and more severe. Eventually, in 2019 I had the worst attack yet, pretty much needing crutches to walk for about 6 months, with blinding pain at times. After this attack was over, and I exhausted dozens of different 'experts' and doctors, I've tried to go a more natural path. I went to India for about 3 weeks, to a small center specializing in ayurvedic treatments. I didn't think anything of it, because how could it work if medical experts couldn't do anything about it? When I went, they knew how to treat it almost immediately. They made me get a uric acid test, something no doctor has ever ask before. when seeing my levels were over double than the normal amount, they recommended a diet tailored around getting that level to reduce. I've been on it for about 1.5 years now, and have not even felt a tingle of an attack on my feet so far. I get a uric acid test every 6-8 weeks to make sure my levels are consistent. I used to eat a ton of meat, which is the biggest reason my levels have been so high. I ate chicken pretty much daily. Now i've reduced it to about once a week and I thought i'd share my story with you guys. I know that this is not a proven method. I know that this will not work for everyone. But it worked for me. And knowing just how much pain this condition can bring physically, mentally and emotionally, I want to let you all know. If this can help even one person, I think it's worth it. I used to be on all the same medication that has been mentioned before as well, pentoxifylline, aspirin etc... but even that has reduce to 0. Please let me know if I can help in any other way

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@victorarrow, welcome. Are you now managing livedoid vasculopathy through diet modifications alone or do you take other precautions?

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@victorarrow

Hey everyone. I've been suffering from livedoid vasculopathy for almost a decade now. Got my first attack/diagnosed when I was 13, and it's been on going ever since. At first it started out with painful ulcers lasting about 4-5 weeks, but as the years went on, the attacks became more frequent and more severe. Eventually, in 2019 I had the worst attack yet, pretty much needing crutches to walk for about 6 months, with blinding pain at times. After this attack was over, and I exhausted dozens of different 'experts' and doctors, I've tried to go a more natural path. I went to India for about 3 weeks, to a small center specializing in ayurvedic treatments. I didn't think anything of it, because how could it work if medical experts couldn't do anything about it? When I went, they knew how to treat it almost immediately. They made me get a uric acid test, something no doctor has ever ask before. when seeing my levels were over double than the normal amount, they recommended a diet tailored around getting that level to reduce. I've been on it for about 1.5 years now, and have not even felt a tingle of an attack on my feet so far. I get a uric acid test every 6-8 weeks to make sure my levels are consistent. I used to eat a ton of meat, which is the biggest reason my levels have been so high. I ate chicken pretty much daily. Now i've reduced it to about once a week and I thought i'd share my story with you guys. I know that this is not a proven method. I know that this will not work for everyone. But it worked for me. And knowing just how much pain this condition can bring physically, mentally and emotionally, I want to let you all know. If this can help even one person, I think it's worth it. I used to be on all the same medication that has been mentioned before as well, pentoxifylline, aspirin etc... but even that has reduce to 0. Please let me know if I can help in any other way

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I was just reading a case study on this: "Remission of long-standing livedoid vasculopathy using a whole foods plant-based diet with symptoms recurrent on re-challenge with standard Western diet" https://casereports.bmj.com/content/14/2/e237895 - I was going to recommend it for my father. He had his first symptoms in 2013 and no relief since then despite trying the range of medicines and treatments. It looks like it takes a lot of commitment but when nothing else works it may be worth a try.

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Hello @cleverrover and welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect. Thank you for sharing this study with members who may find it beneficial to consider for themselves. Do you feel your father would be amendable to trying this diet?

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LV is a problem leased sympathized by doctors. For many sufferers this is primary reason it is such torture.
I've had this God forsaken disease for 12 years. What I have learned has not come from the medical profession.
Iodine, internally and externally is a valuable tool to stopping ulcers growing. Consumption of multivitamins and minerals is beneficial. Cold packs and paracetamol help the pain. Ciprofloxacin is the preferred antibiotic.
I have stupidly ignored my own advice and notes at times and needed to take a long path back. Here are some images if you can stomach the sight.

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@amandajro

Hello @cleverrover and welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect. Thank you for sharing this study with members who may find it beneficial to consider for themselves. Do you feel your father would be amendable to trying this diet?

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We did talk about it briefly. It would certainly be a huge and difficult lifestyle change. Since he's been dealing with this for many years and has tried pretty much every medical treatment we can find with little relief, he's open to trying it. I think 100% adherence would be difficult so we wonder if just some diet changes would show any improvement.

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@cleverrover

We did talk about it briefly. It would certainly be a huge and difficult lifestyle change. Since he's been dealing with this for many years and has tried pretty much every medical treatment we can find with little relief, he's open to trying it. I think 100% adherence would be difficult so we wonder if just some diet changes would show any improvement.

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@cleverrover perhaps look into a meal subscription box service that could make the transition a little easier. I believe there are some that cater to a whole foods diet and having the food delivered takes a lot of the guess work out of switching food choices when that's what you have to cook.

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