Vaccine against MAC?
Does anybody know about a vaccine against MAC? I found the paper ["Protection against Mycobacterium avium by DNA Vaccines Expressing Mycobacterial Antigens as Fusion Proteins with Green Fluorescent Protein" (INFECTION AND IMMUNITY, Aug. 1999, Vol. 67, No. 8 p. 4243–4250)] that claimed to be "...first report of successful DNA vaccination against M. avium", but nothing else.
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@rits that is great news, thanks to Insmed.
Hello Sue. I know that folks with bronchiectasis count as a small number, but I wonder if adding patients with CF and other lung diseases that also are prone to mac would be enough to push us out of the 'orphan disease' catagory?
Hi Terri - That's an interesting question.
First, I looked up "orphan diseases" - in the US it is defined as less than 200,000 people affected.
Then I looked up the number of people in the US with bronchiectasis - the estimate is from 350,000 - 500,000 people - so not an orphan.
Then I looked up the number of CF patients in the US - 30,000 total - probably because the average life span for CF is still under 50 yrs.
Other people prone to NTM include ventilator-dependent, HIV positive and COPD patients among others.
And for NTM (all non-tubercular mycobacteria) infections in the US - 86,000 currently - includes all forms and all underlying conditions.
Finally, for comparison, I looked up the number of people in the US with TB - current estimate is 13 million, and the number of shingles cases per year is about 1.4 million.
So there are enough people at risk for NTM to make it "not an orphan" but since the actual number of cases is low, and it is not easily transmissible between people, I suspect only a concerted campaign and the ability to raise funds would be the only way toget vaccine research kick-started.
If anyone has the passion, time and energy for such an undertaking, that would be great.
Sue
In the meantime, I am interested in exploring more the possibilities of the already available BCG vaccine, based on the results that I shared a week ago.
@sueinmn Well, that is very interesting information Sue. Thank you for finding/sharing that. irene5
After rereading the article you posted, I suggest you contact the authors to learn the current status of their research.
Sue
@bolso1 I was vaccinated against TB in 1974 or ’75 because I went to Nepal in the Peace Corps. The vaccination is not recorded in my little yellow international vaccination book, but I distinctly remember the process and being told that I might test positive for TB because of the vaccine. I have no scar, but I also have no scars from my smallpox vaccinations. In 2018, at age 70, I was diagnosed with focal bronchiectasis, nodules, and MAC after I coughed up blood while lap swimming. I have not been tested for MAC since. My only symptoms are coughing up minor sputum in the morning and occasional minor coughing during the day. (I've also had acid reflux for many years.)
I walk 2-3 miles nearly every day, and do other exercises. I stopped the lap swimming because that’s probably where I caught MAC. Until this year, we lived Michigan in summer and near Tucson in winter. This summer we sold our AZ home and are trying all year in Michigan. I love to “work” frequently on our 2 acres of woods and wetland, which I have been doing for 10 years while not wearing a mask. My only “treatment” is once/day nebulizing with 7% saline, which I started this past March because of this forum.
According to the nhs.uk: “The BCG vaccination is thought to protect up to 80% of people against the most severe forms of TB for at least 15 years, perhaps even up to 60 years.” Perhaps the old vaccine is the reason my MAC is not severe (??).
I don't know whether the vaccine helps to explain the lesser severity of MAC in your case. However, I have kept investigating and found a couple of interesting references (pdfs attached). One reports the findings in Finland where universal BCG vaccination was stopped in 2006 (Kontturi A, Soini H, Ollgren J, Salo E. Increase in Childhood Nontuberculous Mycobacterial Infections After Bacille Calmette-Guerin Coverage Drop: A Nationwide, Population-Based Retrospective Study, Finland, 1995-2016. Clin Infect Dis. 2018;67(8):1256–61), and the conclusions were "After infant BCG coverage in Finland decreased, childhood NTM infections increased drastically. As there is no other apparent cause for the increase, this indicates that BCG offers protection against childhood NTM disease. This observation adds to the understanding of childhood NTM epidemiology and might explain why the disease is emerging in some countries." The other paper is about a similar study in the Czech Republic (Trnka L, Dankova D, Svandova E. Six years’ experience with the discontinuation of BCG vaccination. 4. Protective effect of BCG vaccination against the Mycobacterium avium intracellulare complex. Tuber Lung Dis. 1994;75(5):348–52), in which the authors concluded "In non-BCG vaccinated children the incidence of lymphadenitis caused by M. avium complex was considerably higher than in vaccinated children. BCG cells possess antigenic determinants which confer protective immunity probably both against M. tuberculosis and against M. avium complex infections. It may thus be assumed that BCG vaccination protects both against pathogenic tubercle bacilli and M. avium complex. This should be taken into consideration before recommending discontinuation of mass BCG vaccination of newborns in areas with a high prevalence of M. avium complex infection."
Infections After Bacille Calmette-Guérin Coverage Drop A Nationwide, Population-Based Retrospective Study, Finland, 1995-2016 (Infections-After-Bacille-Calmette-Guerin-Coverage-Drop-A-Nationwide-Population-Based-Retrospective-Study-Finland-1995–2016.pdf)
Six years' experience with the discontinuation of BCG vaccination (Six-years-experience-with-the-discontinuation-of-BCG-vaccination.pdf)
@bolso1 Unfortunately, the BCG vaccine is much less effective on older adults: "There's no evidence the BCG vaccine works for people over the age of 35." https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/vaccinations/when-is-bcg-tb-vaccine-needed/ and https://www.cdc.gov/tb/publications/factsheets/prevention/bcg.htm
Btw, if you'll notice from Terri's (@windwalker) comments above on various likely places one is exposed to MAC, the members of this forum have been doing lots of research on various aspects of MAC and bronchiectasis over the years. Terri alerted us (and many doctors) to the efficacy of nebulizing with 7% saline to help kill off MAC. @windwalker can give you links to the articles she's given us on that topic.
Yes, the BCG vaccine has variable efficacy on TB, but we need to know more about its efficacy on NTM. Thank you!