Post-cholecystectomy or gallbladder removal surgery

Posted by msb18 @msb18, Dec 11, 2018

Hi – I had my gallbladder removed 17 years ago and have chronic, sharp back pain behind the port incision. That incision was in my upper left abdominal quadrant; the pain is felt in my back, directly behind the incision. It is thought that I have an adhesion in my upper left quadrant. Is it possible that nerves are trapped and that it causes referred pain in my back? The pain is nauseating and hasn't improved. I have been on anti seizure medication and a pain killer that isn't a percocet-type medication. I am curious if anyone else has persistent pain in their back following gallbladder surgery. If so, how is your pain treated.

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Hi, my gallbladder was removed due to a condition called porcelain gallbladder. I was told that it was needed to come out. That was 4 years ago, my life since then has been awful. I have seen three Gastro doctors and under treatment currently for Gastro paresis. I was told by second Dr that ordered a CT scan that I have surgical clips left inferior to my liver and I’m guessing that the condition I have was due to the surgery because it is nerve damage to the vagus nerve. I wish I would have never had this surgery.
I cannot eat large portions of food, because my stomach does not empty very well. So I have to be very careful and everyday after every meal about 30 minutes after the nausea comes, I hate it.

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So sorry for you. I have a friend with gastroparesis and I know it makes her life miserable as it relates to food. She frequently vomits after eating.
As to surgical clips left in after gall bladder surgery, to my knowledge that is standard procedure - at least after laparoscopic removal...I have had my gall bladder removed 10 years ago now. Fortunately no complications. As a nurse, I have cared for patients with ruptured gallbladders which caused them to become VERY ill and in ICU with peritonitis or even septic shock. Sometimes you just need to get the gallbladder out. :<(

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Forgot to mention that I do have that post cholecystectomy syndrome. they also said that I might have a hernia behind my belly button and I did have active bleeding but now it's not bleeding. Told me to make sure I follow up and stay in touch with them cuz this is serious have any of you have had active bleeding after your surgery? Also I've had my menstrual cycle this month and it should be over and done with but now I am bleeding one day and not the next and it's way over the time of me still bleeding could that mean anything???

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Hello, @ab1989 and @peter2019,

You both posted about having post-cholecystectomy syndrome.

How are you feeling now? Were you able to find a doctor who could help treat you?

Would you post an update when it's convenient? I'd like to hear how you are doing.

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Profile picture for JerryP @jfperrone

After a very painful event I had surgery to remove my gall bladder. Surgery took 2.5 hours. Follow up seems ok except I have uncontrolled diarrhea. I am living on imodium . I am weak as a baby with no aid in sight. The doctors offer no real help except telling me what to eat or not. Any similiar experience or advice.

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It's now about 3 months since the emergency removal of my gall bladder. I am still plagued by bouts of diarrhea. I was told early on that i should drink those sports drinks with electrolytes (which I have) and take probiotic pills (which I have). Since I have not seen any noticeable improvement I'm wondering if I should continue or in fact are these pills and drinks making things worse. I'd appreciate any ones input with similar experience.

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Profile picture for JerryP @jfperrone

After a very painful event I had surgery to remove my gall bladder. Surgery took 2.5 hours. Follow up seems ok except I have uncontrolled diarrhea. I am living on imodium . I am weak as a baby with no aid in sight. The doctors offer no real help except telling me what to eat or not. Any similiar experience or advice.

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Hi @jfperrone, As you will notice, I moved your discussion to the conversation you had previously posted. The benefit to keeping like conversations about gallbadders and diarrhea together is that everyone experiencing the same medical issue can follow your progress in one place. I would like to invite @astaingegerdm back to the conversation. I would also like to invite @marshabittinger, @genocurt, @blueve97 to share their experiences.

Your intestines produce a lot of bile acid which is normally held in the gallbladder, so when that is removed the bile has nowhere to go except out.
@jfperrone Have you discussed with your physician about alternatives to sports drinks that may help decrease your symptoms?

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Hi @jfperrone, As you will notice, I moved your discussion to the conversation you had previously posted. The benefit to keeping like conversations about gallbadders and diarrhea together is that everyone experiencing the same medical issue can follow your progress in one place. I would like to invite @astaingegerdm back to the conversation. I would also like to invite @marshabittinger, @genocurt, @blueve97 to share their experiences.

Your intestines produce a lot of bile acid which is normally held in the gallbladder, so when that is removed the bile has nowhere to go except out.
@jfperrone Have you discussed with your physician about alternatives to sports drinks that may help decrease your symptoms?

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Hello, as I stated in a previous post, this December will be a year after my gallbladder surgery. I have not had any complications at all and all the symptoms are gone. I always had issues with constipation, but now my BMs are fine, sometimes on the soft side, but I am fine with it. I am interested in learning from this group as these symptoms may appear sometime.

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Hi @jfperrone, As you will notice, I moved your discussion to the conversation you had previously posted. The benefit to keeping like conversations about gallbadders and diarrhea together is that everyone experiencing the same medical issue can follow your progress in one place. I would like to invite @astaingegerdm back to the conversation. I would also like to invite @marshabittinger, @genocurt, @blueve97 to share their experiences.

Your intestines produce a lot of bile acid which is normally held in the gallbladder, so when that is removed the bile has nowhere to go except out.
@jfperrone Have you discussed with your physician about alternatives to sports drinks that may help decrease your symptoms?

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No I thought I was doing what I was instructed to do. If there are alternatives I wouldn't know. Also where do probiotics fit In to the scheme of things? Help or hinder.

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Profile picture for JerryP @jfperrone

It's now about 3 months since the emergency removal of my gall bladder. I am still plagued by bouts of diarrhea. I was told early on that i should drink those sports drinks with electrolytes (which I have) and take probiotic pills (which I have). Since I have not seen any noticeable improvement I'm wondering if I should continue or in fact are these pills and drinks making things worse. I'd appreciate any ones input with similar experience.

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@jfperrone You may have to experiment with the probiotic supplements. I tried several before I found the one that worked best for me. I felt like I was pouring money down the toilet. .. I tried many brands of probiotics. My husband's cousin told me about Align and it is the only one that has worked well for me. I tried store brands that were cheaper and said compare to Align and they did not work.l just missing the secret ingredient to help me. Probiotics basically balance the bacteria in your gut. Really watch what you eat.. limit greasy foods and sweets. I found artificial sweeteners also increase watery bowels. I could not eat foods like salads or those that had lots of spice in them.. or heavy on onion or garlic. Soluble fiber tends to firm the bowels like contained in bananas and oatmeal. Foods high in insoluble fiber tend to loosen the bowels. A search through your internet browser about fiber should help on choosing foods.Eat probiotic foods like yogurt with live culture... kefir. I highly suggest a food diary. That way you can tell better which foods give you problems and which do not. Although our bodies have the same basic components we are all different and react differently to foods. So there is not a one diet fits all. .. nor pills .. medications that fit all.

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Profile picture for JerryP @jfperrone

After a very painful event I had surgery to remove my gall bladder. Surgery took 2.5 hours. Follow up seems ok except I have uncontrolled diarrhea. I am living on imodium . I am weak as a baby with no aid in sight. The doctors offer no real help except telling me what to eat or not. Any similiar experience or advice.

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@jfperrone - I agree with Zaroga that our bodies respond so differently to the same event and respond differently to medications.
Did the doctors explain why you have diarrhea now? They should be able to explain what is happening now after the gallbladder is gone. It could be a reaction to more bile ending up in your intestines. There may be certain medications that will deal with that. Probiotics are good. Align and Florastor have been recommended to me.
Are you still seeing the surgeon or your internist or gastroenterologist? At this point you should see a gastroenterologist.
I think it is fairly common to have digestion issues after gallbladder surgery. You are not alone.

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Profile picture for JerryP @jfperrone

After a very painful event I had surgery to remove my gall bladder. Surgery took 2.5 hours. Follow up seems ok except I have uncontrolled diarrhea. I am living on imodium . I am weak as a baby with no aid in sight. The doctors offer no real help except telling me what to eat or not. Any similiar experience or advice.

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I've got nothing scheduled in the immediate future.Frankly this website is more informative than most Doctors.

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Profile picture for JerryP @jfperrone

After a very painful event I had surgery to remove my gall bladder. Surgery took 2.5 hours. Follow up seems ok except I have uncontrolled diarrhea. I am living on imodium . I am weak as a baby with no aid in sight. The doctors offer no real help except telling me what to eat or not. Any similiar experience or advice.

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keeping hydrated helps, the Pedialyte type of Electrolyte Solution helps me...Pedialyte is higher in sodium than the typical sport drink.. I have Gastroparesis so it is a continuing battle... I have to use Gas-X and a probiotic that was prescribed for me to counteract the effects of an antibiotic used once when sick.. This site and those of us on it raise issues that really should prompt taking notes to make the list of questions you should ask your doctor... The recommendation of a single person or even a few doesn't come close to meeting the standards of clinical trials.. I use the Clinical Epic Software "My Chart" to pose non-emergency questions to the doctors I trust.. they have credibility...

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