Pain and depression, the one two punch.

Posted by Stephen @wsh66, May 18, 2020

I have dealt with both pain and depression for more than 20 years. I'm ok with both now but they have taken a toll. It seemed it was easier to get good treatment for depression than for pain. I'm guessing in this new anti opioid environment, it even harder, if not impossible to get adequate pain management. I'm part of a type or group of patients who did not contribute to the problem. I'm over 66, my pain is permanent. I'm mostly disabled by pain and will be for the rest of my life. Too far gone to be helped by the PT I did for 15 years and most exercise increases my pain level. There are no more surgeries being suggested. I'm officially receiving palliative care at a very fine pain clinic.

I don't know what I would do if my narcotic treatment were taken away. I know many of you are facing that situation and I wonder how your coping and how it's affecting your depression?

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Chronic Pain Support Group.

@lilypaws

@ceceilia I was wondering old you are?  I put down the things I might need after surgery you mentioned. We go to a class to see what my husband needs to do to help me recover. Jeanie

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Hi @ceceilia and @lilypaws, you'll notice that your personal email address was removed from the discussion. Mayo Clinic Connect is a public forum, thus we recommend sharing personal contact information by using the private message function. Learn how here: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/get-started-on-connect/

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@lorirenee1

@lilypaws Thanks so much for your kind words. I certainly hope your surgery goes well! I am waiting for a DRG stimulator trial for my intense, severe, foot pain. Kratom is a tree that comes from SE Asia. The leaves are ground and swallowed, or in my case, swallowed in pill form. Kratom helps to lower or sometimes not feel pain at all, for a few hours. God bless, and best of luck. Lori

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@lorirenee1 How dd you get the Kratom pill? I have never smoked marajuana sp, but have always wanted to try it. My husband from your comments from your last post on what I need after my fusion, I really appreciate it. But, my husband doesn't think I need those things and I do. He said let's wait and see. I'm sorry your surgery did not come out good, but maybe we will have pain up to one year. I do have side rails that go on a toilet that Igot when I had my rt. hip replaced, so that should help me get up from the toilet.

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@ceceilia

I had a L4 through S1 spinal fusion surgery at Mayo Clinic in Phoenix AZ in October 2019. My surgeon said it looks good, but unfortunately I am still in more pain now than prior to surgery, However, with COVID -19 I have missed my 6 month check up. I hoping that my surgeon will be able to give me more answers when I see him again. He did tell me that it could take up to a year or more to completely heal. So, I am still hopeful. I had the most excellent care at the Mayo hospital. My surgeon and hospital staff were wonderful. Your surgery will be much more extensive than mine. Everyone is different and I will keep you in my prayers. You will definitely need help after your surgery. I have a wonderful husband and he was there for me. Somethings I found essential were a toilet riser, a bed rail to help in getting in and out of bed and a trapper devise to pick up things. I also used a walker for a short time. Make sure they give you adequate pain meds and don’t be hesitant to call your doctor if you need more. If you would like to talk with me more, let me know and I will give you my email address. I wish you a speedy recovery and a successful surgery. Just remember, it takes time and a lot of patience as you recover,

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@ceceilia Was that the e-mail that you sent me? And is your name Kathy. Just wanted to make sure. It would help if you put my code before the message like I did. Put lilypaws. I got rails to go on the side of my toilet, that should help me get up. I did e-mail this before. I also have a trapper device from when I had my hip surgery. And by the way my doctor only has to go into my back and not my front like he thought he would have too. My doctor was surprised at that, but I have a surgeon that is well qualified. I trust him completely. The bed rails he didn't think I would needed or the toilet riser, which I still think I need. Those are the questions I'm going to ask when we go to the meeting that is suppose to help my husband know how to take care of me, but then I will have surgery the next day, with no toilet riser at home. You got my e-mail and I got yours. I wouldn't even mind talking over the phone, but doesn't have to be done. Jeanie

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@lilypaws

@ceceilia Was that the e-mail that you sent me? And is your name Kathy. Just wanted to make sure. It would help if you put my code before the message like I did. Put lilypaws. I got rails to go on the side of my toilet, that should help me get up. I did e-mail this before. I also have a trapper device from when I had my hip surgery. And by the way my doctor only has to go into my back and not my front like he thought he would have too. My doctor was surprised at that, but I have a surgeon that is well qualified. I trust him completely. The bed rails he didn't think I would needed or the toilet riser, which I still think I need. Those are the questions I'm going to ask when we go to the meeting that is suppose to help my husband know how to take care of me, but then I will have surgery the next day, with no toilet riser at home. You got my e-mail and I got yours. I wouldn't even mind talking over the phone, but doesn't have to be done. Jeanie

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@lilypaws

@lorirenee1 How dd you get the Kratom pill? I have never smoked marajuana sp, but have always wanted to try it. My husband from your comments from your last post on what I need after my fusion, I really appreciate it. But, my husband doesn't think I need those things and I do. He said let's wait and see. I'm sorry your surgery did not come out good, but maybe we will have pain up to one year. I do have side rails that go on a toilet that Igot when I had my rt. hip replaced, so that should help me get up from the toilet.

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@lilypaws In case you do need it, I buy Kratom from ethanaturals.com It helps a lot. So that you know, you cannot take it daily, it can be addictive. I take it every other day, and when i don't take it, I use marijuana vapes. I prefer Kratom, as I don't get high from it. You would buy the Kratom pills for body relief. Meanwhile, my very best to you with your surgery. Not easy. Be safe! Lori

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I think that some meds lead to generalized pain. I have MCTD, and a combination of simple, non-processed diet and water exercise, daily walks and PT stretches to improve posture and core really have helped. I have gone for TMJ, hip bursitis (Piriformis syndrome) and sciatica and it pretty much works...if I keep doing it! On medicare, you can keep going indefinitely. I go to a Rocabado trained, manual, PT and it is very different than others. I am using THC/CBD 1:2 tinctures sublingually.

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@lilypaws

@lorirenee1 How dd you get the Kratom pill? I have never smoked marajuana sp, but have always wanted to try it. My husband from your comments from your last post on what I need after my fusion, I really appreciate it. But, my husband doesn't think I need those things and I do. He said let's wait and see. I'm sorry your surgery did not come out good, but maybe we will have pain up to one year. I do have side rails that go on a toilet that Igot when I had my rt. hip replaced, so that should help me get up from the toilet.

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PT and Silversneakers have gentle exercises to help build muscles to rise up off of chairs. Takes awhile and a little muscle pain, but can start slowly to improvement..

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@marye2 I have Silversneakers too. I tried a trainer, gentle yoga and a swim class, all of them really hurt my back, but it was because I needed surgery. Which you know I have to have a fusion. It is on June 9th. My back is a mess. I also had epidurals, PT, and an ablation. So this is the only solution. They did test me to see if the fusion would work and I came out with flying colors. So, it's a relief I know the surgery will help me. After I heal, which can take up to a year, I'm going back to Silversneakers. Thank you for your comment on it.

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@lillypaws, As promised @lillypaws, I have been checking on you. It is wonderful that you have the support of so many Connect members. Yeah Connect, this forum is doing its job and you are benefitting from how it fulfills its mission to improve the quality of life for everyone.

It does appear that you have spent some time planning your recovery and rehab activities. You are positive about your surgery on June 9 and you envision a life with less pain and more opportunities. That is very good mindfulness my dear. I am impressed.

Now you can hang your hat on recovery and know that we on Connect have your back.

May you be free of suffering and the causes of suffering.
Chris

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@artscaping

@lillypaws, As promised @lillypaws, I have been checking on you. It is wonderful that you have the support of so many Connect members. Yeah Connect, this forum is doing its job and you are benefitting from how it fulfills its mission to improve the quality of life for everyone.

It does appear that you have spent some time planning your recovery and rehab activities. You are positive about your surgery on June 9 and you envision a life with less pain and more opportunities. That is very good mindfulness my dear. I am impressed.

Now you can hang your hat on recovery and know that we on Connect have your back.

May you be free of suffering and the causes of suffering.
Chris

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@artscaping Thank you so much. It brought me to tears. I'm glad that I have been part of Connect. Yes, I am positive, a little nervous about coming home. We had good news. He only has to go through my back, usually with a fusion they have to go both front and back. Also, Mayo has opened up that my husband can be in the hospital with me and in my room. They just opened that up last week. Thank you again, you are precious. I'm glad I could relate the information about how I am dealing with the surgery. God is with me and I have faith. That's what gets me through. Jeanie

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