Klippel Feil Syndrome: Ear molds and getting a good fit

Posted by maryella7 @maryella7, Mar 26, 2020

Hi Everyone, I have an ear canal that points up and back and for that reason ear mold fittings can be very trying. For me, the Worst part of purchasing a new hearing aid-which I am doing now-is the ear mold fitting. I guess I’m writing this to feel less alone. I have never met someone with my issue. It is due to a syndrome called Klippel-Feil or Goldenhar depending on the given medical professional’s pronouncement. Give me a shout out. It would really help me out. Thanks, Mary

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@maryella7

Hi Colleen, For me, KFS has presented in the following ways: Situs Inversus (internal organs are reversed); Scoliosis - again reversed (left not right); two missing neck vertebrae; slight cleft palate, small jaw; myopia; blephritis (sp?); microtia; and, maybe stunted growth. The situs inversus since it wasn’t treated may have led to a twisted or flattened diaphragm. I have bronchiectasis which is monitored by lung function tests and year-round meds and inhalers I take on an as-needed basis. It would be nice to hear from those members you mention. Thanks! Mary

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This is very interesting. I have what is known as mirror movement in my hands. I can actually use both hands to write my name and if you put the 2 papers together they match up: one hand is writing backward the left while the right is writing normal!!! They always said it was from Klippel Feil. Fortunately, I can control my hands and arms from simultaneously moving however not when I was more intricately tested for my brain tumor. Both hands just did the same thing. This surprised the neurosurgeons until they looked into the many anomalies that accompany Klippel Feil syndrome!

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@julieannarcand

This is extremely interesting to me!! I was told that I had abnormally small ear canals due the the Klippel Feil; but due to a recent ( I think but now am wondering) brain tumor and radiation, I have a great deal of ear wax coming especially from my right ear ( this may be because it is the side I lay on most. It seemed to have worsened after radiation. Where are you getting the tubing and how was it diagnosed?

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@julieannarcand
Good morning
I’ve gotten extra tubing from my Audi or ordered it online from places such as Westone or Oaktree. There are many online suppliers of hearing aid accessories and batteries and you can shop around for good prices. I’m not sure if you are asking me if how my hearing loss was diagnosed.

FL Mary

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Hi Mary; I'm glad you are able to get the things you need for your hearing! But yes, I was wondering how you were diagnosed and does it relate to Klippel Feil? Stay safe out there!

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@julieannarcand

Hi; thank you for inviting me into the conversation. I have no odontiod process ( the bony pin like structure that sits on the 2nd vertebra and allows the first cervical to rotate. This caused severe pain and numbness (and could have easily caused death) before they screwed C2 up through C1. Other cervical vertebrae were abnormal, malformed or fused requiring 7 spinal surgeries. I had abnormal cervical ribs which caused a painful thoracic outlet syndrome (removing these were the only surgeries that alleviate pain) for which I am thankful. I have what is called a wandering p wave in my heart. I'm wondering if anyone else has this or other heart problems?? It causes tachycardia and a very high pulse at times. I also have abnormal shaped kidneys that I am thankful are not bothering me. I was recently diagnosed with an inoperable brain tumor in the right cavernous sinus surrounding the carotid artery and sitting on the optic nerve ( they do not believe this has anything to do with the Klippel Feil) however I was diagnosed with Klippel Feil at 25 and am now 53. My heart condition is worsening and I wonder if anyone else's is due to age? And my doctors have diagnosed ankylosing spondylitis now due to age and the advanced Klippel Feil which comes with an autoimmune component. Does anyone else have this. Interesting reading about people's ear issues. I was told I had abnormally narrow ear canal due to the Klippel feil but after radiation for my brain tumor I feel like I I literally have to sleep double pillow cases! It seems my right ear is constantly oozing. Sorry to be so gross but I don't know if that is an issue from radiation or Klippel Feil. It has been a journey that's for sure
One other thing that I wanted to ask especially in light of the coronavirus: with each surgery and I've had 10 total I had to be intubated awake because I have no range of motion. I have to wear a medical alert bracelet to warn the medical community that I cannot tilt my head at all. Do you have anything like that??
Thank you and so much love for you all! Stay safe out there and thank you again for including me!!
Julie Arcand

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Hi Julie, My neck rotation is okay turning right, very limited turning toward my scoliosis side. All that you have gone through as an adult gave me great pause. You have been through so much more than I have. I haven’t had medical intervention other than a palate surgery and eye surgery as an adult. My Childhood surgeries were the reconstructive kind on my right ear. I’m sure each family is different. My parents did what they could. My mother refused intervention on my spine. I used to getting racing pulses, but I forget what prompted them. My heart is positioned under my right ribcage. I had a gallbladder surgery scratched due to intubation difficulties. I used to wear a Medic Alert tag around my neck re the situs inversus. You have made me aware of the issue I share with you regarding range of motion. I should be more mindful. Every second counts. How often will you be monitored for the tumor? Is it shrinking? Thank you Julie for sharing your story and current trials with me. I am holding you in my heart. XO, Mary

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@julieannarcand

Hi Mary; I'm glad you are able to get the things you need for your hearing! But yes, I was wondering how you were diagnosed and does it relate to Klippel Feil? Stay safe out there!

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Hi Julie, I was diagnosed by a spinal surgeon 10 or 15 years ago when I was in my forties.We didn’t get to the treatment plan part. I turned tail and ran. Too afraid to face the prospect of missing work, putting others out. I inherited a workaholic credo from my family. Work over self. Sad. I hope to put that behind me. Mary

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@julieannarcand

Hi Mary; I'm glad you are able to get the things you need for your hearing! But yes, I was wondering how you were diagnosed and does it relate to Klippel Feil? Stay safe out there!

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@julieannarcand
Hi,
Sorry for the misunderstanding but I don’t have Klippel Feil. I was merely responding to the posts about hearing loss and problems fitting molds.

FL Mary

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@imallears

@julieannarcand
Hi,
Sorry for the misunderstanding but I don’t have Klippel Feil. I was merely responding to the posts about hearing loss and problems fitting molds.

FL Mary

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@julieannarcand
A PS to the above...there is another Mary @maryella7 ....that I believe you have me confused with. And I thought I was the only Mary ......😄
FL Mary

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@imallears

@julieannarcand
A PS to the above...there is another Mary @maryella7 ....that I believe you have me confused with. And I thought I was the only Mary ......😄
FL Mary

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@julieannarcand This Fl. Mary is a wine conesuer

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@maryella7

Hi Julie, My neck rotation is okay turning right, very limited turning toward my scoliosis side. All that you have gone through as an adult gave me great pause. You have been through so much more than I have. I haven’t had medical intervention other than a palate surgery and eye surgery as an adult. My Childhood surgeries were the reconstructive kind on my right ear. I’m sure each family is different. My parents did what they could. My mother refused intervention on my spine. I used to getting racing pulses, but I forget what prompted them. My heart is positioned under my right ribcage. I had a gallbladder surgery scratched due to intubation difficulties. I used to wear a Medic Alert tag around my neck re the situs inversus. You have made me aware of the issue I share with you regarding range of motion. I should be more mindful. Every second counts. How often will you be monitored for the tumor? Is it shrinking? Thank you Julie for sharing your story and current trials with me. I am holding you in my heart. XO, Mary

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Hi Mary; so good to hear from you. I was raised in upper Michigan by an alcoholic marine Corp father!! Work work work was the order of the day. It wasn't until I was married and had to have a c section with unknown complications giving birth. Thankfully, I gave birth at the University of Washington's medical school and they looked further into the complications and found the severity of the Klippel Feil. I was immediately put in a halo brace ( FULLY AWAKE!!!!!) and had multiplie surgeries! I'm actually in the text books as such a rare and severe case.

I truly am thankful that it was found later in life because there simply were no hospitals or physicians capable of doing the delicate surgery in the upper mid west and I had parents as you described that basically said I'll give you something to complain about!! So I just stopped complaining of the severe headaches and inability to move my neck in certain ways that caused what I can only describe as electrical pain. Now we know that having no odontoid was causing the electric type pain and any fall or car accident could have killed me immediately.

I have been through radiation for thr tumor however it has not shrunk at all. It is an atypical meningioma ( that is what they think as it is in such a difficult location that I cannot even get a biopsy). Normal meningiomas can be dangerous due to their location as mine is; however typically they grow very very slowly. If they grow so slowly they call them benign. Mine is growing faster than the typical meningioma but not so fast ( thankfully) that I still have some time before it invades the entire cavernous sinus and covers my carotid artery. There is a newly developed 3d surgical procedure that was approved in late 2019 that only 3 hospitals in the United states have the equipment. I have had my records sent to Pennsylvania but can do nothing until the coronavirus is completely over. It is difficult to live in pain all the time but I really try to look for positive things like my grandchildren ( I have 2 and absolutely adore them). Yes, I often cry myself to sleep because there are so many things that come with Klippel Feil and I've seen so many specialist who obviously want to be helpful but they simply don't know enough about Klippel Feil and the sequelae. My brain tumor went undiagnosed for so long because they thought 5he KFS was just getting so severe that it was turning into ankylosing spondylitis and that was causing the cluster headaches and swollen eye and right side of my face. So I do try to keep positive when I can!! Cry when I need to and take it day by day! Please tell me more about your upbringing...I spent 25 years in therapy. Yes, 25 for PTSD...but it truly was a blessing because I could not have coped with all of the surgeries if I had not had the support of therapy. Living with an abusive alchohol marine was probably way worse than any medical condition that I've been through! Much love and thought of kindness and strength to you! Your fellow warrior, julie

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Hi Mary: I have the same problem. Tried several places but they just don't fit in
my ear canal. They just keep poping out. Cant participate in conversations as I cant hear what is being discussed. Mary Lou

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