Stage 4 prostate cancer treatment options

Posted by safari1949 @safari1949, Nov 17, 2019

I have recurring prostate cancer and it has found its way to 5 different bones, including my left shoulder and two ribs on my right side. I started 6 month Lupron shots but have been told that because it is stage 4 I need additional treatment. My oncologist is recommending either Abiraterone (Zytiga) for 33 months or 6 treatments of Docetaxel chemo. She says that they look to have very equal success. With the Zytiga I will also have to take steroids, probably prednisone which I understand includes possible liver damage. Six chemo treatments seems like a better approach but I have heard Zytiiga talked about in a very positive manner. I understand it can be expensive and I do worry my prescription drug coverage could change its formulary and raise my cost significantly as well. I've already had that happen with a drug I take for Parkinsons.. Just looking for some general input regarding peoples actual experience either way.

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Prostate Cancer Support Group.

Hi Safari1949
I am 74 and in good health. I started lupron, Zytiga and Predinson in March 2019 with one month (February) of Firmagon (4 shots). My PSA in Feb. was 3,194 and today the PSA is 0.10. There are side effects but with Exercise and a good diet they are not that bad. I have not had Chemo. but it might be in my future. What I have read is it is best to hold Chemo. until later. There are a lot more drugs now for us Stage IV people so I would suggest you do a lot of research before you make your decision. Good luck with your decision (there is no wrong answer) and sorry you are a member of our community.

REPLY

Thanks for your thoughts. I do exercise almost every day, religiously and try to eat right. We plan on talking to a nutritionist too get as much info as possible. I'm 70 and am also concerned about potential liver damage. How often are you checked for side effects?

REPLY

Hi, I have not been check for side effects but do take Milk Thistle for my liver.

REPLY

@healer74 and @safari1949, welcome to Connect. I'd like to bring @donnelson @philnob @fmh1 and @alanr into this discussion about stage IV treatment decision-making.
What exercise activities do you like to do?

REPLY
@colleenyoung

@healer74 and @safari1949, welcome to Connect. I'd like to bring @donnelson @philnob @fmh1 and @alanr into this discussion about stage IV treatment decision-making.
What exercise activities do you like to do?

Jump to this post

Most of the year I ride my bicycle at least 20 minutes and some days 45
minutes. If not I do 20 minutes on elliptical. I also work out with some
yoga, light free weights, my bowflex, a little punching bag total about 25
minutes. Ii do this almost every day I can. I miss a few days when we
vacation but will generally use the hotel weight room or my membership at
Planet Fitness where available. I always stretch.

REPLY

3 to 4 times per week I have a work out routine that my Phy therapist set up for my specific metastasis. This is 45 to 60 minutes. On the other days I walk 1 to 2 miles. This is my goal but sometimes life gets in the way!!

REPLY
@colleenyoung

@healer74 and @safari1949, welcome to Connect. I'd like to bring @donnelson @philnob @fmh1 and @alanr into this discussion about stage IV treatment decision-making.
What exercise activities do you like to do?

Jump to this post

Hello, this is philnob. I use the stationary bicycle, and the stair climber at my fitness club.I also take yoga classes and practice yoga
on my own. I hope this helps.

REPLY

I'm a Lupron user for the past two years and feel quite blessed that my issue is being managed quite well to this point. I receive an injection every 6 months. Very little side effects with the Lupron, some hot flashes, which have reduced in frequency over the 2 year period, and possibly experiencing some cognitive issues but that could possibly be an age related problem, I'm 78. PSA has been staying less than 1. I do exercise fairly vigorously 2-3 times a week and do other activities most other days. I'm in good health and have maintained my weight, approx170# for the last 10+ years. Also maintain sensible eating habits. Have discussed Zytiga as possible course if PSA begins to rise so have an interest in its cost, side effects and efficacy. Predisone will be part of the Zytiga treatment. Has Zytiga gone generic? Have had prosecetomy, 2010 , radiation and chemo over the years buy only Lupron when PSA started going up about 4 years ago. Just recently started taking Alendronate, the generic for Fosamax, for bone health. Last scans about 6 months ago look fairly clean some evidence of metastasis but that has remained unchanged for last 2-3 years. I would like to remain part of this conversation and will contribute any info I can. Thank you all and best of success in you courses of treatment.

REPLY

I am currently in my third cycle of taxol after diagnosis with metastatic disease. The literature is clear that taxol+ADT is effective. There is also literature on the newer agents that suggest efficacy, but there has been no clinical trial comparing the two head to head. It is also the case that Zytiga can be used if the cancer progresses to castration resistance after taxol. I am not enjoying the side effects of taxol, but I have only three cycles to go, and I am hopeful that the therapy works to reduce tumor burden.

REPLY
@herbg

I am currently in my third cycle of taxol after diagnosis with metastatic disease. The literature is clear that taxol+ADT is effective. There is also literature on the newer agents that suggest efficacy, but there has been no clinical trial comparing the two head to head. It is also the case that Zytiga can be used if the cancer progresses to castration resistance after taxol. I am not enjoying the side effects of taxol, but I have only three cycles to go, and I am hopeful that the therapy works to reduce tumor burden.

Jump to this post

Welcome, @herbg. What side effects are you experiencing and how do you manage them?

REPLY
Please sign in or register to post a reply.