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Has anyone tried the HF10 Spinal Cord Stimulation Device?

Posted by patrick17 @patrick17, Nov 21, 2018

Has anyone tried a device called HF10 ? It’s a device which stimulates your spinal cord to help relieve back and leg pain. After a trial period of about a week, if the patient is achieving good results the device is implanted in the person. My pain management doctor has recommended it to me for arm and hand nerve pain. I would like to hear from anyone who has used this device and especially from anyone who has used it for arm and hand pain. Thank you.

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compendious | @compendious | Mar 7, 2021
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@compendious

Study Results for the upper limb and neck pain study with the Nevro HF10 implants by Dr. Kas Armirdelfan MD
https://academic.oup.com/neurosurgery/article/87/2/176/5650846

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compendious | @compendious | Mar 7, 2021
In reply to @patrick17 "Thank you for your response and input. I am sorry for your wife’s pain. I read..." + (show)
@patrick17

Thank you for your response and input. I am sorry for your wife’s pain. I read your other message and see that you and your wife have been through the mill. I am still undecided about a spinal cord stimulator. I am trying to connect with someone with arm and hand pain who has been helped by the Nevro device. The website below talks of a study of patients with neck and arm pain who had good results with the Nevro HF10. I don’t know anything more about it other than what I’ve read here. One question I have is how many patients were in the trial. It only states that 47 patients had the devices implanted.

https://blog.smarttrak.com/high-frequency-scs-for-upper-limb-and-neck-pain-an-interview-with-kas-amirdelfan-md

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Study results: "Subjects who had ≥50% pain relief as assessed by VAS were considered as responders in the study. At 3-mo assessment, >75% of subjects and at 12-mo assessment, >85% subjects responded to the 10-kHz SCS therapy (Figure 2E). For neck pain, the responder rates at 3-mo and 12-mo visits were 76.2% and 89.2%, respectively. For upper limb pain, the responder rates at 3 and 12 mo were 83.3% and 95.0%, respectively."

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Colleen Young, Connect Director | @colleenyoung | Mar 7, 2021
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@compendious, welcome. I noticed that you wished to post a URL to a study article with your message. You will be able to add URLs to your posts in a few days. There is a brief period where new members can't post links. We do this to deter spammers and keep the community safe. Clearly the link you wanted to post are not spam, so allow me to post it here.

– High-Frequency Spinal Cord Stimulation at 10 kHz for the Treatment of Combined Neck and Arm Pain: Results From a Prospective Multicenter Study (2020) https://academic.oup.com/neurosurgery/article/87/2/176/5650846

Compendious, have you personally had success with spinal cord stimulation?

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martyk | @martyk | Mar 8, 2021
In reply to @sallymagint "@patrick17 there is absolutely no doubt the devices had a positive outcome for pain management, especially..." + (show)
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@patrick17 there is absolutely no doubt the devices had a positive outcome for pain management, especially with the damage I was left with following earlier Spinal trauma. In this respect I highly recommend them. It was just very unfortunate that it meant I could not have an MRI which would have picked up the other deficits I was suffering from earlier.
I can only hope that future developments in pain management come up with a similar device that is MRI compatiable because they really can be very beneficial.

In terms of the different types, the two brands were very different. The Medtronic ones I could feel the tingling in the areas the device was programmed to focus. The Nevro was a high frequency one so I couldn’t feel it working. In terms of the two different devices the Medtronic was good in the sense that each time the cycle stopped/started I would feel it kick in. Of course over time I became semi conscious of this happening so there was no thought process about it. If my pain was really bad I could use the remote to increase or change to another program to seek relief and would feel it tingle faster, stronger etc... The Nevro gave better pain relief for me overall even though I couldn’t actually feel it. Again I could increase or change the program to fit with the varied levels of pain. It really helped with nerve pain in legs/back and neuropathy in feet.
I do remember when it was suggested we try the Nevro and I read all the info, I thought ‘I’m not sure how this is going to work because if I can’t feel is working how is it going to change the pain?’ I was was pleasantly surprised how much it did help.

Whatever you decide make sure you research and ask questions of Drs and other patients who have used pain devices - good luck

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Hi Patrick, With the Nevro, did you have to charge it on a daily basis? If so, how long of a charge and how friendly user was it?

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scruffy1 | @scruffy1 | Mar 9, 2021
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Hi Patrick, With the Nevro, did you have to charge it on a daily basis? If so, how long of a charge and how friendly user was it?

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Nevro recommends charging daily even though the device will operate longer than that..

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martyk | @martyk | Mar 9, 2021

Once you start charging, how long does it take until fully charged? Thanks

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scruffy1 | @scruffy1 | Mar 9, 2021

At first, it was 15-20 minutes if charged daily but I have the older model so it may take me longer. After a few years it was more like 1/2 hr. Also, I'm usually moving around when I charge and sometimes the paddle moves and I lose track of the time.

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martyk | @martyk | Mar 9, 2021

Thank you. sounds like you had it implanted several years ago.

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scruffy1 | @scruffy1 | Mar 9, 2021

Yes, July 2017. In Jan. 2018 a new, smaller unit was approved. Were it not for bad timing, I wouldn't have any 🙂
It's one of those things that could go either way despite a successful trial. Mine went the right way, lucky for me.

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martyk | @martyk | Mar 9, 2021

Thanks for responding. I'm glad you got some relief.

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