CAR-T cell Therapy: Joint and muscle pain

Posted by Bob, Alumni Mentor @grandpabob, Nov 12, 2018

Hello all, I had Car T infusion Augut1st. I currently have joint and muscle pain though intermittent. Is anyone else having these side effects? I am not sure if it is from Car T or the chemo I had previous to the infusion.

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I don't want to derail this discussion with a tangent, but please allow me to interject that we also have an ICU group on Connect (https://connect.mayoclinic.org/group/intensive-care-icu/)

ICU can be a very intense experience for both patients and family members. Late effects after in ICU experience is recognized as Post-Intensive Care Syndrome (PICS). If this is of interest to you, I wanted to let you know about the PICS online support group as well as the PICS in-person support group at Mayo Clinic, Rochester:
- Post-Intensive Care Syndrome (PICS) - Let's talk https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/post-intensive-care-syndrome-pics-lets-talk/

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@grandpabob

Hello Ann, thanks for your reply. I do hope that all is well with you folks now? I spent two weeks in hospital as well. One of those in ICU all due to Car T side effects.

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Yes, so far so good. If you met Dave today you would never guess what he went through just six short months ago. He does have some aftereffects of the bowel surgery, but that is to be expected at this point. He sees a gastroenterologist for this. But as far as activities--he spent a few days here at home after we returned, but within a week he was working for a few hours at his office. Within two weeks he was back to work full time. His activities have been normal since then--although he can get tired every once in awhile. Like on Saturday, when he went up and down our rec room stairs into our storeroom carry all the large bins with our Christmas decorations!

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Yes. I have joint pan mostly in my shoulders and knees. Also my legs get real stiff after sitting for just a short time. I have never ever had any joint/ bone pain until after this CAR-T. I had mine in May 2019. Water aerobics is super helpful. But I want right know how long this will pain will last. I am going real see a rheumatologist next week I am a patient at MDAnderson.

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@jenn22

Yes. I have joint pan mostly in my shoulders and knees. Also my legs get real stiff after sitting for just a short time. I have never ever had any joint/ bone pain until after this CAR-T. I had mine in May 2019. Water aerobics is super helpful. But I want right know how long this will pain will last. I am going real see a rheumatologist next week I am a patient at MDAnderson.

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Hello @jenn22
The joint pain lasted a few months for me. After learning others had some as well, I exercised and did a lot of stretching to insure the muscles were not contracting due to lack of use. This worked well for me. I did not do more than mention it to my doctor as I was not interested in taking medication for it. Are you in a position where you can stretch after your exercises for the time being until you see your doctor?

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@jenn22

Yes. I have joint pan mostly in my shoulders and knees. Also my legs get real stiff after sitting for just a short time. I have never ever had any joint/ bone pain until after this CAR-T. I had mine in May 2019. Water aerobics is super helpful. But I want right know how long this will pain will last. I am going real see a rheumatologist next week I am a patient at MDAnderson.

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Hi @jenn22 How are you doing? I was wondering if you found out anything useful with your appointment with the rheumatologist. Has the joint pain subsided?

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@grandpabob

I am feeling very good now. Strength and energy is coming back nicely. I had pretty much all the published side effects that we were told about. Neuro toxicity, CRS, slow heart rate, high fever. I spent 2 weeks in hospital one of the in ICU. All worth the end result.

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Your story is encouraging

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I had a CAR t Cell BCMA trial for multiple myeloma at National Institutes of Health) on May 1, 2019. I had VERY LARGE SKIN NODULE in addition to vbone lesions, extra medullary mutiple myeloma. I suffered extreme joint pain. I thought it was due to having steroids stopped but my oncologist said it wasn't. I have read the joint pain is more common with people who have many tumors. My symptoms included knee pain, even when squatting down to the toilet or kneeling on floor. I also thought I had carpal tunnel syndrome because my wrist ached and had sever stabbing pain when I squeezed my hands (like using a wash cloth). In addition, to joint pain, I had severe neuropathy. My oncologist said neuropathy was from chemo received at start of CAR t cell therapy. Fortunately, my neuropathy is 90% better (8 months later). Also, my joint pain started improving 4 months after receiving CAR t cells. I still Have some joint pain but is approximately 70% better. The CAR t cell worked very well and I had about a 90% response. BUT it was short term, my tumors are now growing aggressively and I am starting chemotherapy next week and hope to have a CAR t cell reinfusion.

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@wycowgirl307

I had a CAR t Cell BCMA trial for multiple myeloma at National Institutes of Health) on May 1, 2019. I had VERY LARGE SKIN NODULE in addition to vbone lesions, extra medullary mutiple myeloma. I suffered extreme joint pain. I thought it was due to having steroids stopped but my oncologist said it wasn't. I have read the joint pain is more common with people who have many tumors. My symptoms included knee pain, even when squatting down to the toilet or kneeling on floor. I also thought I had carpal tunnel syndrome because my wrist ached and had sever stabbing pain when I squeezed my hands (like using a wash cloth). In addition, to joint pain, I had severe neuropathy. My oncologist said neuropathy was from chemo received at start of CAR t cell therapy. Fortunately, my neuropathy is 90% better (8 months later). Also, my joint pain started improving 4 months after receiving CAR t cells. I still Have some joint pain but is approximately 70% better. The CAR t cell worked very well and I had about a 90% response. BUT it was short term, my tumors are now growing aggressively and I am starting chemotherapy next week and hope to have a CAR t cell reinfusion.

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@wycowgirl307 Sounds like you had a very difficult time after CAR T cell therapy. Has the oncologist said if you might have the same side effects this time around? Have they mentioned any preventative measures that can be done?

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@wycowgirl307

I had a CAR t Cell BCMA trial for multiple myeloma at National Institutes of Health) on May 1, 2019. I had VERY LARGE SKIN NODULE in addition to vbone lesions, extra medullary mutiple myeloma. I suffered extreme joint pain. I thought it was due to having steroids stopped but my oncologist said it wasn't. I have read the joint pain is more common with people who have many tumors. My symptoms included knee pain, even when squatting down to the toilet or kneeling on floor. I also thought I had carpal tunnel syndrome because my wrist ached and had sever stabbing pain when I squeezed my hands (like using a wash cloth). In addition, to joint pain, I had severe neuropathy. My oncologist said neuropathy was from chemo received at start of CAR t cell therapy. Fortunately, my neuropathy is 90% better (8 months later). Also, my joint pain started improving 4 months after receiving CAR t cells. I still Have some joint pain but is approximately 70% better. The CAR t cell worked very well and I had about a 90% response. BUT it was short term, my tumors are now growing aggressively and I am starting chemotherapy next week and hope to have a CAR t cell reinfusion.

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Much good health to you in your next phase of your journey. Please keep us updated. Car T therapy is in my future, too.

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@rgerson56

Much good health to you in your next phase of your journey. Please keep us updated. Car T therapy is in my future, too.

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Hello @rgerson56 – I see this is your first post on Mayo Connect.

Welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect, an online community where people can share experiences and ask each other questions about any health issue.
We're not medical professionals who can offer medical advice.

I see your expectation is to undergo Car T Cell Therapy in the future.
I want to invite you to post on the Car T site, as you may be more apt to get the information you are looking for from those that follow that group. I also encourage you to ask questions as you see fit. Hopefully someone will have the first hand information you are looking for.

Will your treatment be soon?

From which Health Care Center will you be receiving treatment?

Stay well and reach out at any time.

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