Autoimmune? Undiagnosed and don’t know where to go next

Posted by beanie300 @beanie300, Nov 7, 2018

I am posting here in hopes that someone out there has experienced something similar or can at least tell me where to turn next when it comes to figuring out my illness. A friend of mine who has lupus said it sounded like it could be autoimmune but I really don’t know anymore!

The following chunk is going to be a long medical history and I apologize, I just want to give as much information as possible in hopes of getting help.

I was born premature but had amazing algae scores and was sent home that day. My mother tells me I was always sick as a baby with chronic throat infections of some kind or other. She made the doctors remove my tonsils before I was 2 in hopes that it would help but it didn’t seem to. Growing up I remember always being sick. I seemed to get every bug going around but was always especially susceptible to strep throat infections and sinus infections. I was sick so much that by highschool I am pretty sure I only was actually able to attend around 2/3 of the total days in the school year. Maybe even less than that and this wasn’t me staying home with colds, this was constant stomach flu, upset respritory infections, and of course strep throat. I also had constant hives and dermatographia since I was young and still have it to this day! The doctors always wrote it off, saying it was probably a food allergy, but never really looked into it. I also never ran fevers as a kid and instead run at a constant 97.6.

In 2016 my constant bad health seemed to take a turn for the worst. Right after graduating highschool I got so sick I was bedridden for the whole summer. I was throwing up, having joint pain, and sleeping all the time. No fever but I NEVER run fevers. After a month of it my mother took me in to my family doctor. She ran a mono test and Lyme test which both came back negative but she was sure it was mono so she told me to come back in a few weeks. I did but the test was negative again, and then again when I came in another month later. My white counts were high but they couldn’t figure out what was wrong other than that. Finally after 4 months I got better and stopped going back to the doctor, just in time for me to go to my freshmen year of college.

I made it through my first semester, despite the fact I got stomach flu and strep a few times but then part way through my second semester I got sick again. I was throwing up to the point I had to be hospitalized for fluids. All of my lymph nodes were so swollen I didn’t even look like I had a neck and was having a hard time swallowing. This time it turned out I actually did have mono. I had to leave my college and go home to recover. It took a total of about 4 months to get better but I never felt 100% again after that. My doctor told me it could take up to a year to feel fully better so I decided to take time off of college and get a job.

The job lasted about three months. I was so tired in that time that I would get up to go to work, struggle through my shift, go home, and immediately go to sleep. I was only awake about 10 hours a day but I figured it was just because I wasn’t used to working and would adjust. Then I started developing severe joint pain and stiffness, to the point that it was hard to get up off the couch simply because I couldn’t unbend. Both of my parents have rheumatoid arthritis so I assumed it was that and went in to my doctor for testing. I was only 20 and knew I shouldn’t be feeling as old as I suddenly felt. She ran an ANA that came back normal. A week later I passed out in the shower. My parents and I assumed maybe the water had been to hit and left it at that. Another week later I passed out at work. The fainting episodes became a normal part of my life which led to me quitting my job.

I went to see my primary physician again but she was clueless. She ran a complete blood count, metobolic panel, and tested me for Addison’s disease. It all came back fine aside from a slightly elevated white blood count. She then referred me to doctor number 2, an internist.

Doctor number 2 was probably the best I had ever seen. Listened to my story then tested me for dermatographia before I had even mentioned the hives or dermatographia. He sent me to an allergist.

Doctor number 3, the allergist. I explained the dermatographia and the fact that I had it, along with hives, since I was a kid. We had never been able to link the hives to any food and explained that sometimes I would break out in hives because of the heat or because of crying or getting stressed. He told me he couldn’t test me with the scratch test because I had dermatographia but that he could test my blood for allergies. He told me he didn’t think this would be helpful however because the would only be able to test for a few things and he said my hives sounded idiopathic. I went home without the test.

I followed up with my internist, doctor number 2, but while the nurse was taking my vitals she found I had a heart murmur. I was sent for an ultrasound of my heart and they found I had a mitral valve prolapse but told me it was nothing to be concerned about. I went back in later for the follow up and the nurse took my vitals and found I had a heart arythmia. They gave me a 24 hour heart monitor. I only actually ended up wearing the monitor for 20 hours because the sticky pad things they used caused my skin to blister up and peel off.

The cardiologist I saw, doctor number 4, told me my heart murmur was benign and then went on to suggest that maybe I was on too many medications due to the fact that I take an anti anxiety, and antidepressant.

Back to doctor number 2, my internist. He gave me two different anti-histamines and sent me home in hopes it would improve my symptoms.

All of my symptoms kept getting worse. I developed brain fog, trouble concentrating, headaches, and none of my previous symptoms improved. I turned to the internet in hopes of figuring out why I was fainting and read about postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome or POTS for short. I went to my doctor that week and asked if he had ever heard of it. He told me he didn’t think that was what I had, as it was rare, and sent me home. My mother convinced me to go back and demand to be tested, and it turns out I do have POTS. On an average day, my heart rate laying is 55 and it jumps to 130 when I am standing.

Thankfully now that I know what is going on I was able to start managing symptoms and hoped it would help with everything from the fainting to fatigue, joint pain to brain fog.

I started developing new symptoms. My brain seems to scramble words when I read now or it messes up grammar. I have a persistent pain in my left side that doctors can’t explain. My rib cage in the front on my left side also goes through flair ups where it hurts when I breath and I have been developing migraines.

The fatigue got worse until I was only awake about 2-4 hours a day total and all of my lymph glands swelled up again. It felt like when I had mono so I went in to try and figure out what was going on. My internist sent me to doctor number 5, an infectious disease specialist, who told me I had a mono reactivation. At this point it had been exactly a year since I left college with my first bout of mono. He said it was really rare and he wanted to test my immune system. He ran a complete blood count, C-reactive protein test, t-cell test, and a few others. Everything came back normal.

My doctor said he had no idea why I got mono again and seems to have no idea what to do with my other symptoms! I want to ask for more tests but I don’t even know what tests to ask for anymore or what doctors to ask to see and I am afraid they are going to diagnose me as a hypochondriac!

Currently my symptoms are
– dermatographia
– hives (particularly when upset but often without obvious cause)
– migraines
– joint pain
– joint stiffness
– Nausea
– loss of appitite
– brain fog
– trouble concentrating
– extreme fatigue
– vomiting, sometimes without even feeling ill beforehand
– dizziness
– pain in my left side, about where my spleen is, but doctors say my spleen is not enlarged
– pain in my ribs sometimes when I breath that lasts a few hours
– no fevers ever.
-numbness and tingling in my hands and feet at times
– mouth ulcers. (I have had these since I was a kid. The come and go. I sort of get break outs of them)

Anyone have any ideas? Anything helps. I just want to go finish college and move on to my career but can’t do that while I am this sick! I am a 21 year old white female if that helps anything.

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@beanie300 Hi, friend. I am just an old busybody, but i have had some experience with stuff like this. The last 80 years have been filled with Drs etc, trying to figure out what is wrong. I believe I am getting closer. My Mistakes, and Drs mistakes: 1. Assuming one could have only one Autoimmune Issue at a time. Truth? Nonsense. You sound as if you have a handful. I end up with RyR2 (Cardiac and other smooth muscle invasion.); FKTN (Fukutin Limb Girdle Muscular Dystrophy. Familial systemic fatal, mutated from GSN (Amyloid Gelsolin). There is blood kin evidence that I also have some stuff like LECT2, MM, Apolipoprotein, Diabetes 2, TES, several cancers such as thyroid, pancreas, prostate, skin, esophagus, and some others. Also had some passing diseases such as shingles. Anyway, you have evidence of multiples. To me, Your whole page looks like a Multiple Listing Service. That should not surprise you, because any of the stuff you show can and will cause other issues. I would guess your cardiac walls are enlarged and dilated, You are very tired most of the time, You are probably susceptible to things like anemia (as I am), Chronic Leukemia (as I am), heart wall issues (as I am), and a bunch of other stuff. A heavy dose of genetic sequencing is your best bet to see to totality of your AI. But don't let this frighten you. Just know that you can keep fighting for a lifetime. I am 80. I retired the last time when I was 75. I officiated my last football game at 60. I taught my last class at 70. We visited 48 states and several in Canada and Mexico after my 60th birthday. Yes, I am tired, but I still have life. You can, as well. oldkarl

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@shellieaxton

I was beginning to think I was the only one with this problem. In the last few months I have started having bumps on my head that at first I thought were cysts. They are painful sometimes. They just have clear fluid no infection. I'm really frustrated. I did test positive for Lupus Anticoagulant for a while. Then all of a sudden testing was negative.

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@shellieaxton No, you're not alone. Signs and symptoms of autoimmune conditions can present then recede, seeming to "go into remission". You add back in triggers like stress, or other illness [physical or emotional] and they reappear. That is my experience, anyways. While those bumps may be a reaction to shampoo, or something in the water, or hair product change, they are frustrating to deal with, aren't they? Keep that journal going, when do you return to your specialist?
Ginger

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Thank you for all the welcomes. While I don't wish any illness on anyone it is a relief to know that I am not the only person with this problem.
I have had my last appointment with a specialist (Rheumatologist). I went to NC Baptist Wake Forest. I have been there twice. Both times the Drs acted like they were not interested in my case. It's very discouraging. I think I will start writing my symptoms down and when they occur. Sometimes I feel like I'm in a different world. I am in pain 24-7. But I refuse to sit down and give up. I had a carcinoid tumor that was removed in 2018 along with resection of the small bowel. However, I still have symptoms. I have had major testing and I am happy to say that I am cancer-free according to all testing.
Thank you to everyone for your time and suggestions.

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@shellieaxton

Thank you for all the welcomes. While I don't wish any illness on anyone it is a relief to know that I am not the only person with this problem.
I have had my last appointment with a specialist (Rheumatologist). I went to NC Baptist Wake Forest. I have been there twice. Both times the Drs acted like they were not interested in my case. It's very discouraging. I think I will start writing my symptoms down and when they occur. Sometimes I feel like I'm in a different world. I am in pain 24-7. But I refuse to sit down and give up. I had a carcinoid tumor that was removed in 2018 along with resection of the small bowel. However, I still have symptoms. I have had major testing and I am happy to say that I am cancer-free according to all testing.
Thank you to everyone for your time and suggestions.

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shellieaxton, Believe when I say you are not alone! Many of us with various forms of Autoimune disease have the same issues with our medical industry! Unless you have a Tumor growing out of the side of our head they Blow you off and say it is all in your imagination! My feeling is they don't know how to treat it so they dismiss you!
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@shellieaxton I just love your statement: “But I refuse to sit down and give up!” Do you have any doctor appointments coming up?

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@becsbuddy Thank you. No appointments until things calm down with the pandemic. Then I think I will see about being referred to Neurologist.

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@shellieaxton

Thank you for all the welcomes. While I don't wish any illness on anyone it is a relief to know that I am not the only person with this problem.
I have had my last appointment with a specialist (Rheumatologist). I went to NC Baptist Wake Forest. I have been there twice. Both times the Drs acted like they were not interested in my case. It's very discouraging. I think I will start writing my symptoms down and when they occur. Sometimes I feel like I'm in a different world. I am in pain 24-7. But I refuse to sit down and give up. I had a carcinoid tumor that was removed in 2018 along with resection of the small bowel. However, I still have symptoms. I have had major testing and I am happy to say that I am cancer-free according to all testing.
Thank you to everyone for your time and suggestions.

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@shellieaxton - I recognize the 24/7 pain- for 10 years until I got a diagnosis- actually 2- and was treated. I also refused to accept being told it might be in my head... However, when treatments were done, I was a different person, not in a good way. The years of constant stress made my brain “tired”, like a burnout. I don’t have pain and getting used to the new me.

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@jodyradney Go to the companies that do this regularly: Ambrygen.com; Alnylam, etc. most of them have at least some free program.

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I am 59 and are experiencing most of the symptons you mentioned. I was diagnosed with Discoid Lupus in 2022 after finding a bald spot in my head and thinning hair. Today it is 9/28/2024 and i have experienced my first flair up. I believe it was due to the prescription strength acid reflex medication I broke oit in red swollen itchy bumps and first was diagnosed with skeeter syndrom, then scabies and nothing seemed to improve my rash. After i s
stopped taking the acid reflex meds, i started to clear up, but this time my skin was bruised and scabed. I am now sitting having lab work done to see where my ANA numbers are. TBD So my question to you is were you teated for LUPUS?

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Have you had an antibody test? If so and it came up negative then you don’t have an autoimmune disease. I have 3. Once you get one the door can open for more. Does your doctors recommend a specialist that specializes in the area that could explain those symptoms?

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