Mysterious shortness of breath: What has helped you?

Posted by Gabe, Volunteer Mentor @gabrielm, May 31, 2018

I will try to make this as short as possible, but this has been going on for over 5 years, so it might be farily long. 

Beginning in summer of 2012, I began having shortness of breath (SOB) with no other symptoms. I felt a constant need to yawn, and every few breaths wouldn't satisfy the SOB. I would take a deep breath, and felt like it would get "stuck" before satisfying the air hunger feeling. About every 3-5 deep breaths would satisfy it, only for it to return a minute later. 

I got an endoscopy and other tests done, which revealed that I had some esophageal erosion due to acid reflux and a slight hiatal hernia and was diagnosed with GERD. I had always have bad heartburn, so I was prescribed with Prilosec, which I have been taking daily since them. I've tried stopping it a few times but the reflux always comes back a lot worse. 

Lung tests and x-rays were normal. Heart tests normal. Blood test revealed a slight anemia but otherwise pretty normal. 

I did some research reading forums where someone suggested taking vitamin B-12. Strangely, I took it and the SOB disappeared almost instantly. However, it only lasted a few days for it to return just as bad. I then started taking an iron supplement, which again made the SOB disappear quickly- same thing; symptom returned days later. 

After further research, I came across a breathing exercise method called the Buteyko method. Essentially you do a lot of breath holding to build up CO2 and reduce breathing as the theory is that I had chronic hyperventilation causing too much CO2 to exit my body. After applying the method and reducing my breathing, the SOB disappeared after only 2 days and I felt completely normal. I continued the method a few more days then no longer felt the need to pursue the exercises. I was normal for a whole year when the SOB once again returned with some chest tightness. I applied the method again and the symptom went away, this time with a little more effort; after about 3 weeks. I included physical exercise which also helped with my breathing. 

After that, I was normal for about 2 years. I mistakenly stopped or at least slowed down exercise and the SOB returned once again. I applied the method and began running for exercise but the SOB kept getting worse. It got so bad, I had multiple panic attacks and the feeling of completely empty lungs with the inability to satisfy it with deep breaths. I had to stop exercise altogether, apply the Buteyko method and do breathing exercises very carefully with very light and slow exercise. This helped, but it took many weeks for the SOB to improve. Then, it was almost normal when over a year ago as I was running, I couldn't get a deep breath to satisfy exercise-induced SOB. I have had SOB continuously since then (a year and a half). 

I once again started doing breathing exercises and slowly building up physical exercise, but I can't do any prolonged cardio activity because the SOB gets to a point where deep breathing will not satisfy it. While the breathing exercises have helped, they have had very little effect compared to previous efforts. It seems that every time the symptom returned, greater effort yields few results.

I suspect there is something, some underlying cause that is causing the SOB that has alluded me this entire time. 

So for the past few months to a year, the SOB is worse on some days, better on others, but never gone. There's no rhyme or reason or pattern for it. It's just there, sometimes affecting my sleep. I sometimes can't get a deep breath to satisfy it every now and then, but for the most part, a big gulp of air will satisfy it. But it returns seconds to minutes later. It's as though every breath doesn't deliver what it's supposed to, the SOB builds up, and then I have to take a big gulp of air to get rid of the feeling, pattern repeats. My breathing pattern is normal, however. I don't feel like anything physical is happening, but sometimes it feels like my airways and nostrils are slightly inflamed due to allergies, but when I don't feel inflammation the SOB is still there. 

Recent lung function tests show normal- I don't have asthma, or any other problems with my lungs. Heart tests are normal though I did have about a two week bout of heart palpitations which came and went. Haven't had any for a while- it just mysteriously started happening then stopped. Blood tests are normal, though tests always show a slight elevation of biliruben which my doc thinks is Gilbert's disease. 

I don't have sleep apnea (normal test), bloody oxygenation is normal, heart rate normal. 

I recently saw local naturopath (since mainstream docs aren't able to help) who immediately suspected a liver problem when I described my SOB, possibly liver inflammation. He used an electrodermal testing machine to test his theory which did seem to show a problem with my liver and gallbladder. He gave me digestive enzymes and a gallbladder formula to help clear a bile duct clog, thus reducing liver inflammation. He also determined with the machine that I have an egg sensitivity so I've been avoiding eggs. 

Been taking this and avoiding eggs for a couple of months, but there has been no noticeable improvement. Everything else is normal. Emotionally I'm normal- no anxiety, depression, etc. The SOB seems to be the only symptom of something, but always comes back worse, until a year and half ago when it came back and has remained since. I feel like I shouldn't have to do breath holding exercises every day just to maintain my breathing well enough to do every day things. 

Does anyone have any idea of a possible underlying cause?

2021/2022 UPDATE:
Since my original post about 3-1/2 years ago, a lot has happened, so I’d like to update the post to share with others who come across this what I’ve done since then.

I have maintained a weekly Buteyko method breathing exercise regimen where I do a few of these breathing exercises 3-4 times a week in the morning. This, in combination with daily light to moderate exercise (specifically weight lifting, with 1 or 2 days a week of walking and light jogging), I feel has kept the air hunger symptoms tolerable and manageable. I have mostly good days with some not-so-good days, but doing a breathing exercise and knowing that it’ll get better again helps me get through those times.

I also have sinus inflammation which can exacerbate the symptoms, but I’ve also managed this, which in turn reduces the severity of the air hunger symptoms.

So, while I haven’t found a cure nor is the problem completely gone, I have been able to maintain normalcy in daily life and manage the symptoms through the strategies I described.

This discussion remains active, alive and well through the comments section where others who have similar symptoms have shared what has helped them as well as suggestions for possible solutions to explore.

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@ashleyh

I am so happy I came across this post. I've had the same issues since July 2018. I'm a healthy, 23 year old and have never had problems like this in my life. I got married back in July, went on my honeymoon to the Bahamas, and when I came back home, I experienced shortness of breath and have ever since. Some days it's better than others, but it's always there. It almost feels uncomfortable to breathe deep. I've been to so many doctors appointments. My blood work is perfect and my lung/heart tests came back good. I even had my gallbladder checked and it's good. This is so frustrating and I hope we can all work together to find an answer!

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Thanks for posting. I’m in a similar situation. I’m 55, in good health with stress levels no different than it’s been for the last 10 years. In December I caught a cold, used nasal spray and I’ve had this issue now for 3 months. It started in the middle of the night I thought from the nasal spray. I stopped taking it immediately. I’m recovered from my cold, chest x Ray, stress test and pulmonary exam all normal. Doctor says it’s anxiety. There has to be an underlying cause. I breath fine until I start paying attention to my breathing. It seems like I can’t take a deep breath. Full exhale helps me get back to normal breathing. There has to be a reason this is happening.

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@davek

Thanks for posting. I’m in a similar situation. I’m 55, in good health with stress levels no different than it’s been for the last 10 years. In December I caught a cold, used nasal spray and I’ve had this issue now for 3 months. It started in the middle of the night I thought from the nasal spray. I stopped taking it immediately. I’m recovered from my cold, chest x Ray, stress test and pulmonary exam all normal. Doctor says it’s anxiety. There has to be an underlying cause. I breath fine until I start paying attention to my breathing. It seems like I can’t take a deep breath. Full exhale helps me get back to normal breathing. There has to be a reason this is happening.

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Sometimes if I pay to much attention to my breathing I can get a little panicked. Breathing and anxiety go hand in hand. However, listen to your body. If you think something isn't right definitely get a second opinion.

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@fracturedd

Sometimes if I pay to much attention to my breathing I can get a little panicked. Breathing and anxiety go hand in hand. However, listen to your body. If you think something isn't right definitely get a second opinion.

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@fractuerdd, @davek, @tkgroves,@gabrielm- Good morning. There is a huge tie-in between anxiety and shortness of breath. Sometimes it's very difficult to tell if anxiety came first or the shortness of breath, just like the chicken or the egg. I agree with @jenniferhunter that there can be underlying physical causes that can cause shortness of breath but it's not always the case. It's very common to feel shortness of breath when you are anxious. There are physical changes that take place that kick start this process: https://www.healthline.com/health/anxiety/effects-on-body#1
A couple of times I felt as if I couldn't breathe I started to feel claustrophobic when people weren't disembarking fast enough after a plane landed. It felt awful! It was scary. The first time that it happened I had no idea what was going on, which of course made me feel more anxious. I thought that one of my lungs had collapsed from lung surgery. After the second time I knew that I had to concentrate on breathing slower and it worked. I'm sure that there are hundreds examples that people can relate. Maybe this will help:
https://www.healthline.com/health/shortness-of-breath-anxiety#treatment
Please let me know if any of these suggestions work.

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@gabrielm I have the same condition and I've had it for over 5 years as well. I went to a doctor in 2015 who made me get an x-ray and do a lung test in one of those big boxes - they ask you to breathe as deeply as you can etc and measure your lung capacity and health. The doc told me that my lungs are getting sufficient air, so I mustn't get anxious over this condition. Anyway the condition disappeared for over a year for me as well and then returned. I still can't figure it out, when I am actively thinking about my breathing and take a deep breath, it stops right before it satisfies me. I have to take 10 deep breaths sometimes to finally get one that 'goes all the way' (no one understands me trying to explain this, but I know you will), and even then, the relief only last a few seconds before I feel the need to take another one. At other times of the day sometimes I don't even notice I have a problem until suddenly i feel the shortness of breath and focus on it, then I just feel terrible.

I also don't have other medical conditions.

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Hey everybody! So thankful I stumbled across this page. I have also been experiencing the exact same symptoms. They started a little over a week ago. I have had GI issues in the past but never anything this severe. I dealt with it for about 4 days until my boss/husband suggested I go to the ER. I am 35 years old and healthy! I only go to the doctor for my yearly physical. In other words, I don’t like going to the doctor. I did go see a chiropractor back to back days before I went to the ER. I was thinking maybe it was muscle tightness and something was preventing me from expanding my diaphragm all the way. Long story short, they did an EKG, chest x-ray and some lab work to rule out gallbladder issues. Everything came back fine! I was relieved but frustrated at the same time. They said it was anxiety/stress related which I’m having a hard time buying that. Seems like that’s the diagnosis everyone has gotten too. I’ve started Zantac in the morning and in the evening. I’ve lost 7 lbs this past week from not being able to eat/drink much at all due to discomfort in my chest and underneath my breastbone. Have also had a burning/nagging sensation in between my shoulder blades. I feel like I’m struggling to live in my own body. I was thinking I could have possibly had a hiatal hernia as well but that should have shown up on a chest x ray right? The excessive yawning and really exerting myself to catch a deep breath has gotten to me. The only time I can really get comfortable is if I lie on my side. Haven’t been sleeping well either because of worrying. I’ll be praying for you all and believing for healings/answers. ❤️

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@jessby

Hey everybody! So thankful I stumbled across this page. I have also been experiencing the exact same symptoms. They started a little over a week ago. I have had GI issues in the past but never anything this severe. I dealt with it for about 4 days until my boss/husband suggested I go to the ER. I am 35 years old and healthy! I only go to the doctor for my yearly physical. In other words, I don’t like going to the doctor. I did go see a chiropractor back to back days before I went to the ER. I was thinking maybe it was muscle tightness and something was preventing me from expanding my diaphragm all the way. Long story short, they did an EKG, chest x-ray and some lab work to rule out gallbladder issues. Everything came back fine! I was relieved but frustrated at the same time. They said it was anxiety/stress related which I’m having a hard time buying that. Seems like that’s the diagnosis everyone has gotten too. I’ve started Zantac in the morning and in the evening. I’ve lost 7 lbs this past week from not being able to eat/drink much at all due to discomfort in my chest and underneath my breastbone. Have also had a burning/nagging sensation in between my shoulder blades. I feel like I’m struggling to live in my own body. I was thinking I could have possibly had a hiatal hernia as well but that should have shown up on a chest x ray right? The excessive yawning and really exerting myself to catch a deep breath has gotten to me. The only time I can really get comfortable is if I lie on my side. Haven’t been sleeping well either because of worrying. I’ll be praying for you all and believing for healings/answers. ❤️

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Ohh, maybe you have reflux or gerd. Breathlessness and pain between shoulder blades are both pretty common symptoms. Give nexium a try.

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@skhan27

@gabrielm I have the same condition and I've had it for over 5 years as well. I went to a doctor in 2015 who made me get an x-ray and do a lung test in one of those big boxes - they ask you to breathe as deeply as you can etc and measure your lung capacity and health. The doc told me that my lungs are getting sufficient air, so I mustn't get anxious over this condition. Anyway the condition disappeared for over a year for me as well and then returned. I still can't figure it out, when I am actively thinking about my breathing and take a deep breath, it stops right before it satisfies me. I have to take 10 deep breaths sometimes to finally get one that 'goes all the way' (no one understands me trying to explain this, but I know you will), and even then, the relief only last a few seconds before I feel the need to take another one. At other times of the day sometimes I don't even notice I have a problem until suddenly i feel the shortness of breath and focus on it, then I just feel terrible.

I also don't have other medical conditions.

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Yup @skhan27, sounds just like me. For me it's a little more stable in that instead of not being able to satisfy the breath, I just have to take more deep breaths which makes the SOB go away, but I still have to take frequent deep breaths. But I know exactly what you're saying. The deep breath at times previous for me didn't 'take' or satisfy the need all the way until a few more deep breaths later. So yes, I know how it goes. My lungs are fine as well- got an x-ray a few years ago, and then did the box test just like you a couple years ago to test my lung capacity, which also came back normal.

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@jessby

Hey everybody! So thankful I stumbled across this page. I have also been experiencing the exact same symptoms. They started a little over a week ago. I have had GI issues in the past but never anything this severe. I dealt with it for about 4 days until my boss/husband suggested I go to the ER. I am 35 years old and healthy! I only go to the doctor for my yearly physical. In other words, I don’t like going to the doctor. I did go see a chiropractor back to back days before I went to the ER. I was thinking maybe it was muscle tightness and something was preventing me from expanding my diaphragm all the way. Long story short, they did an EKG, chest x-ray and some lab work to rule out gallbladder issues. Everything came back fine! I was relieved but frustrated at the same time. They said it was anxiety/stress related which I’m having a hard time buying that. Seems like that’s the diagnosis everyone has gotten too. I’ve started Zantac in the morning and in the evening. I’ve lost 7 lbs this past week from not being able to eat/drink much at all due to discomfort in my chest and underneath my breastbone. Have also had a burning/nagging sensation in between my shoulder blades. I feel like I’m struggling to live in my own body. I was thinking I could have possibly had a hiatal hernia as well but that should have shown up on a chest x ray right? The excessive yawning and really exerting myself to catch a deep breath has gotten to me. The only time I can really get comfortable is if I lie on my side. Haven’t been sleeping well either because of worrying. I’ll be praying for you all and believing for healings/answers. ❤️

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@jessby Sorry that you're experiencing this! I don't know if a hiatal hernia would show up on an EKG. Maybe it does but they had to do an upper endoscopy on me, which how they found out for me. I know how you feel struggling to live in your own body. It's terrible when you feel like you're suffocating constantly with no known cause or reason. You should look into the Buteyko method (see earlier posts for link) which won't cure it completely, but should help manage it until you find a cause/permanent solution. Praying for you too!

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@jessby

Hey everybody! So thankful I stumbled across this page. I have also been experiencing the exact same symptoms. They started a little over a week ago. I have had GI issues in the past but never anything this severe. I dealt with it for about 4 days until my boss/husband suggested I go to the ER. I am 35 years old and healthy! I only go to the doctor for my yearly physical. In other words, I don’t like going to the doctor. I did go see a chiropractor back to back days before I went to the ER. I was thinking maybe it was muscle tightness and something was preventing me from expanding my diaphragm all the way. Long story short, they did an EKG, chest x-ray and some lab work to rule out gallbladder issues. Everything came back fine! I was relieved but frustrated at the same time. They said it was anxiety/stress related which I’m having a hard time buying that. Seems like that’s the diagnosis everyone has gotten too. I’ve started Zantac in the morning and in the evening. I’ve lost 7 lbs this past week from not being able to eat/drink much at all due to discomfort in my chest and underneath my breastbone. Have also had a burning/nagging sensation in between my shoulder blades. I feel like I’m struggling to live in my own body. I was thinking I could have possibly had a hiatal hernia as well but that should have shown up on a chest x ray right? The excessive yawning and really exerting myself to catch a deep breath has gotten to me. The only time I can really get comfortable is if I lie on my side. Haven’t been sleeping well either because of worrying. I’ll be praying for you all and believing for healings/answers. ❤️

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@jessby- Good morning and welcome to Mayo Connect. You must be scared that you didn't find your answers. I know that when my body tells me that something isn't right I listen to it, even if it's difficult. I had that happen this past winter with a GI problem myself. They only gave you three tests in the ER. You need further testing. Please see a pulmonologist. The ER is only to rule out emergencies and they don't go further for a complete diagnosis unless their tests show something. Stress is a huge facto so please don't rule that out yet. Your symptoms could also be due to the Chiropractor. May I ask what you need one for at such a young age? Also GI issues can come back with a vengeance so you might want to follow through with this angle too. Are you breathing ok?

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Hi @skhan27 @davek and @jessby and welcome to Connect. It must be so frustrating for both of you have discomfort and pain trying to take breaths.

I wanted to introduce you to fellow Connect members @tonyagregg and @gabrielm as they have experience similar symptoms and may be able to offer support for you.

Back to you @skhan27, @davek, and @jessby how are you all feeling today? What treatments are you doing at this moment?

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